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Perhaps somewhere there are people mature enough to handle guns responsibly. We have proven, over and again, and with the blood of our children, that we are not that people. If there are such people they are not in your government. Your Country is the most cruel, warlike and savage one on earth, bar none. It stole the land from the people who lived there first and killed them when they protested. Until such time as your country stops murdering people by the million all over the world, I'd suggest that American citizens are not safe from their government and should protect themselves from their vicious and warlike government by arming themselves to the teeth to prevent it from turning its massive arms on them. (By government, I do not refer to the crooked lackey shills that you vote into office; I refer to their boss...The Bank.) The only way the guns protect against the government is if a person uses it on themselves before the government gets to them. We have the most advanced military in the world here, no piss ant assault rifle is any challenge to them. Even a million assault rifles will be no challenge to our government if an armed upheaval were to happen. I would hope I wouldn't be in the vicinity when the government removes them as a problem. So when you finally hear that famous late-night "knock on the door" when "they" come for you, will you be hiding under the stairs, or the bed? Your fear is showing...lol I have no fear of that. But if it did happen to someone, they could use the gun to blow their own head off to end it. Otherwise they will point their gun and be dead from foreign bullets instead...lol |
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Perhaps somewhere there are people mature enough to handle guns responsibly. We have proven, over and again, and with the blood of our children, that we are not that people. If there are such people they are not in your government. Your Country is the most cruel, warlike and savage one on earth, bar none. It stole the land from the people who lived there first and killed them when they protested. Until such time as your country stops murdering people by the million all over the world, I'd suggest that American citizens are not safe from their government and should protect themselves from their vicious and warlike government by arming themselves to the teeth to prevent it from turning its massive arms on them. (By government, I do not refer to the crooked lackey shills that you vote into office; I refer to their boss...The Bank.) The only way the guns protect against the government is if a person uses it on themselves before the government gets to them. We have the most advanced military in the world here, no piss ant assault rifle is any challenge to them. Even a million assault rifles will be no challenge to our government if an armed upheaval were to happen. I would hope I wouldn't be in the vicinity when the government removes them as a problem. So when you finally hear that famous late-night "knock on the door" when "they" come for you, will you be hiding under the stairs, or the bed? Your fear is showing...lol I have no fear of that. But if it did happen to someone, they could use the gun to blow their own head off to end it. Otherwise they will point their gun and be dead from foreign bullets instead...lol So if someone's going to kill you, you'll just stand there and take the bullets?...I gotta hand it to you for being so fearless & considerate of your killers as to stand there and die because you don't want to hurt them. Myself, I think I'd rather have just a tad of healthy fear and enough love for my fellow man as to want to take out at least one armed murderer so he won't kill again. Is that irrational? |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Fri 12/28/12 12:25 PM
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Yea the government stats favor me. |
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Perhaps somewhere there are people mature enough to handle guns responsibly. We have proven, over and again, and with the blood of our children, that we are not that people. If there are such people they are not in your government. Your Country is the most cruel, warlike and savage one on earth, bar none. It stole the land from the people who lived there first and killed them when they protested. Until such time as your country stops murdering people by the million all over the world, I'd suggest that American citizens are not safe from their government and should protect themselves from their vicious and warlike government by arming themselves to the teeth to prevent it from turning its massive arms on them. (By government, I do not refer to the crooked lackey shills that you vote into office; I refer to their boss...The Bank.) The only way the guns protect against the government is if a person uses it on themselves before the government gets to them. We have the most advanced military in the world here, no piss ant assault rifle is any challenge to them. Even a million assault rifles will be no challenge to our government if an armed upheaval were to happen. I would hope I wouldn't be in the vicinity when the government removes them as a problem. wow really our goverment cant defeat piss ants with assult rifels now in the middle east one or two of us yes as a nation if we raise up no we could defeat the goverment just as the ira it would be a long bloody battle pitting brother vsbrother just as it did in the past but history repeats itsself your nation lives by the sword and you day die by the sword i hope its after my time here not wanting to see the horrors it would bring |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Fri 12/28/12 01:44 PM
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wow really our goverment cant defeat piss ants with assult rifels now in the middle east one or two of us yes as a nation if we raise up no we could defeat the goverment just as the ira it would be a long bloody battle pitting brother vsbrother just as it did in the past but history repeats itsself your nation lives by the sword and you day die by the sword i hope its after my time here not wanting to see the horrors it would bring |
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very true very true and another bit of history any nation that once knew freebom and lost has yet to regain it i see our goverment putting things in play everyday trying this trying to kill coal i work a towboat pushing barges from morgantown wv on the monongahela river all the way to cairo ill at the mouth of the ohio at the mississippi and we puch alot of coal among other stuff but shutting that donw kills mining job power plant jobs towboat jobs trucker jobs and more and where are are we going to go goverment assistants on top of that they are letting the education slip i wish someone could post where we are ranked compaired to the rest of the world but by dumbing our kids and making us depend on them for need that is the start of repression correct me if im wrong
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re posted for impact and clarity:
Will we insist on remaining among the most heavily armed nations on Earth — and one of the most deadly, as if those things were merely coincidental — or will we seek to create a culture of non-violence, in which manhood is not defined beginning at an early age, as being related to fighting, hunting, shooting things for fun, and generally being physically tough? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/15/what-makes-americas-gun-culture-totally-unique-in-the-world-as-demonstrated-in-four-charts/ which brings me back to the point, if it cant be consistently shown that more guns leads to less 'violence' , or that gun control leads to more 'violence',, when looking at numbers ACROSS The world when we are so far ahead compared to the WORLD even if we feel our numbers , state by state, make some difference is it possible something about our CULTURE causes the difference we see between our country and the rest of the WORLD where violent crime and guns are concerned? |
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you couldnt be more right we glorify crime from western outlaws to modern day gang banger movies ever most police movies today are based of lawmen breaking the law
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re posted for impact and clarity: Will we insist on remaining among the most heavily armed nations on Earth — and one of the most deadly, as if those things were merely coincidental — or will we seek to create a culture of non-violence, in which manhood is not defined beginning at an early age, as being related to fighting, hunting, shooting things for fun, and generally being physically tough? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/15/what-makes-americas-gun-culture-totally-unique-in-the-world-as-demonstrated-in-four-charts/ which brings me back to the point, if it cant be consistently shown that more guns leads to less 'violence' , or that gun control leads to more 'violence',, when looking at numbers ACROSS The world when we are so far ahead compared to the WORLD even if we feel our numbers , state by state, make some difference is it possible something about our CULTURE causes the difference we see between our country and the rest of the WORLD where violent crime and guns are concerned? This study done in 1990 will give you a lot of insight into the cultural differences worldwide and how they relate to and affect the various types of guncontrol legislation. It shoud also give you some insight into the American gun culture, how it was carried forward from the early days, how it was fairly unique in the world, etc. It's a fairly wordy essay, but it's EXCELLENT and well worth the read, no matter which side of the gun debate you are on. http://www.guncite.com/journals/gun_control_katesreal.html#h7.2 |
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Most pics that come out of the ME show open carry and they ain't plinkers.
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Sat 12/29/12 08:19 AM
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re posted for impact and clarity: Will we insist on remaining among the most heavily armed nations on Earth — and one of the most deadly, as if those things were merely coincidental — or will we seek to create a culture of non-violence, in which manhood is not defined beginning at an early age, as being related to fighting, hunting, shooting things for fun, and generally being physically tough? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/15/what-makes-americas-gun-culture-totally-unique-in-the-world-as-demonstrated-in-four-charts/ which brings me back to the point, if it cant be consistently shown that more guns leads to less 'violence' , or that gun control leads to more 'violence',, when looking at numbers ACROSS The world when we are so far ahead compared to the WORLD even if we feel our numbers , state by state, make some difference is it possible something about our CULTURE causes the difference we see between our country and the rest of the WORLD where violent crime and guns are concerned? This study done in 1990 will give you a lot of insight into the cultural differences worldwide and how they relate to and affect the various types of guncontrol legislation. It shoud also give you some insight into the American gun culture, how it was carried forward from the early days, how it was fairly unique in the world, etc. It's a fairly wordy essay, but it's EXCELLENT and well worth the read, no matter which side of the gun debate you are on. http://www.guncite.com/journals/gun_control_katesreal.html#h7.2 http://www.guncite.com/journals/gun_control_katesreal.html |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Sat 12/29/12 08:42 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amaVx9e5I1c
I am waiting on an anti gun advocate to tell me how 10K is a larger number than 80K . . . . those numbers are from one of the studies Dianne Feinstein uses to propose her bans . . . the numbers least favorable to us still show that guns have benefit to law abiding citizens, and thinking about the best guns being sent to the black market the way alcohol was during prohibition or drugs now scares the hell out of me. Honestly, I believe if they made sporting rifles NFA weapons like machine guns are now, you would end up with more machine guns in the hands of gang bangers. Why . . . because when you drive up the cost of the semi auto rifle you make the full auto one that is already at that price look more tempting. Now you have citizens who can stand up to that, but after no one will have anything that can stop it. Just like that recent killing of two UK police, dude had a grenade, and a pistol . . . a GRENADE!!, they had bats . . . Its stupid, good people should be able to defend themselves, and not have to prove to the government or anyone that they are competent. That is just a BS backdoor ban. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 12/29/12 08:42 AM
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probably best to post the information being referred to, Im not sure many wish to listen to some guys observations nn youtube for half an hour.....
Id prefer guns be in the hands of RESPONSIBLE citizens,, law abiding only means they havent been CAUGHT breaking laws, not that they havent broken them or dont have a high propensity for the ANXIETY associated with impulsive/potentially deadly behavior and what are the 'best' guns? how is that measured? |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Sat 12/29/12 08:47 AM
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Id prefer guns be in the hands of RESPONSIBLE citizens Be honest you want the government to be the only ones with guns. That is the end results of your personal ideology.
and what are the 'best' guns? how is that measured? How many times do your kind harp on the ability of a weapon to fire multiple rounds, or how many rounds, or how powerful the rounds . . on and on and on.
The ability of the weapon can play into tactical flexibility, into time in the fight, and in taking out opponents when they reload. If you would take the time to read about the hero I posted about a few days ago you would know that he died a hero, but could have lived if he had different weapons. Not that those kinds of considerations are important to you. |
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Id prefer guns be in the hands of RESPONSIBLE citizens Be honest you want the government to be the only ones with guns. That is the end results of your personal ideology.
why would I want that. My mother has a handgun. My brother is navy seal trained with weapons. they are RESPONSIBLE people , not prone to anxious or impulsive behavior. I have no problem with responsible/non anxious citizens my problem is those weapons that 'law abiding' citizens get who are only 'law abiding' until they have such a weapon of power to exert their anxious ridden desires upon others,,,, |
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Id prefer guns be in the hands of RESPONSIBLE citizens Be honest you want the government to be the only ones with guns. That is the end results of your personal ideology.
and what are the 'best' guns? how is that measured? How many times do your kind harp on the ability of a weapon to fire multiple rounds, or how many rounds, or how powerful the rounds . . on and on and on.
The ability of the weapon can play into tactical flexibility, into time in the fight, and in taking out opponents when they reload. If you would take the time to read about the hero I posted about a few days ago you would know that he died a hero, but could have lived if he had different weapons. Not that those kinds of considerations are important to you. I doubt anyone knows if someone would have lived with 'different' weapons the cliche is guns dont kill people, people kill people well, ID say, guns dont kill people, nor do people with guns,, unless those guns have BULLETS in which case, the BEST gun is the one that shoots the fatal bullet first,,,and leaves the other gunholder standing,,,,really wouldnt much matter which gun it was fired from,,,, but in terms of the victims, I cant see an angle where there is a 'best' gun,, although there is probably a less immediately destructive gun (less casualties, more time for retreat,,etc,,,) |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Sat 12/29/12 08:56 AM
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Id prefer guns be in the hands of RESPONSIBLE citizens Be honest you want the government to be the only ones with guns. That is the end results of your personal ideology.
why would I want that. My mother has a handgun. My brother is navy seal trained with weapons. they are RESPONSIBLE people , not prone to anxious or impulsive behavior. I have no problem with responsible/non anxious citizens my problem is those weapons that 'law abiding' citizens get who are only 'law abiding' until they have such a weapon of power to exert their anxious ridden desires upon others,,,, but in terms of the victims, I cant see an angle where there is a 'best' gun Ask your Seal brother if there are better or worse guns to have tactically. Use my words please. Then ask him what weapons he would choose if he didn't know what kind of enemy he faced and he could have one rifle and one pistol.
I bet he picks weapons that would be banned. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 12/29/12 09:00 AM
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Id prefer guns be in the hands of RESPONSIBLE citizens Be honest you want the government to be the only ones with guns. That is the end results of your personal ideology.
why would I want that. My mother has a handgun. My brother is navy seal trained with weapons. they are RESPONSIBLE people , not prone to anxious or impulsive behavior. I have no problem with responsible/non anxious citizens my problem is those weapons that 'law abiding' citizens get who are only 'law abiding' until they have such a weapon of power to exert their anxious ridden desires upon others,,,, Most opinions are about feelings. .... I dont feel I am put at risk when logical and TRAINED citizens own guns. gun free zones make me feel safer than places where people all around me who may have little to no training are walking about with them,,, yes I dont know who Suzanna Hupp is for sure, seems there is a go to story advocates use about one of the women in the mass shooting at Lubys,,,,or some such restaurant, where the guy crashed into the place with his truck and killed her father, and then her mother who wouldnt leave her father,,, I have to look it up to be sure though |
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yeah, thats her
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your right about the law abiding untill they have a gun a gun is just the fastest was lets there are no guns in the world anymore what happens people still kill people the romains never used a firearm nor did the greeks the monguls the zulus in africa in fact most the genoicide in africa and south america is still dont by bladed weapons hacked to peices back to her point its our culture
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