You mean even you don't know?...Why did you bring it up then?...To throw us off topic?

Not at all.

what Messenger?
Chomski isn't a Messenger,therefore fair Game!
He acts on his own behalf!

and that's supposed to be the Counterproof to the Genome-Studies?

you really think they worry about what you think?
Israel is doing what is right for Israel!
To Hell with the adverse Propaganda of the Useful Ones!

No, but it raises some very provocative questions you seem reluctant to address.

As I said before, "The genetic research you cited is nothing more than a specious argument to support a fallacious claim of Jews to the holy land." That fallacious claim is that Jews have a hereditary/ancestral claim to the Land of old Israel. You are basing that claim on a gene study that itself refutes it.

From the Gene study you cited:

"…up to 50% of Ashkenazi Jewish Y chromosomal haplogroups (E3b, G, J1, and Q) are of Middle Eastern origin…"

…Which means (DUH!) that at least 50% of Ashkenazim do NOT carry the Jewish Y chromosomal haplogoups of middle eastern origin.

Ashkenazim make up 47.5% of modern Israel's ethnic demographic; at least 50% of them don't carry the ME genes you've been touting as a hereditary/ancestral claim to Israel, so where does the hereditary/ancestral claim of that (at minimum) 23.75% of Israeli population come from?

Moreover, if people had a hereditary/ancestral claim to that land, there would be VAST numbers of gentiles containing the very ME genes you cited who (to be fair) also have a "Right of Return" to Israel based on their genetics. I note that while Israel claims to be a secular democratic state, that only those of the Jewish faith are Given "the Right of Return" (without regard to their genetic heritage). This is nothing short of religious discrimination which belies Israel's claim to being a tolerant, secular State. It shows no tolerance at all in that it does NOT recognize the very claim you are making (of a common ethnic heritage). In fact Israel is a theocratic State based on the religion of Judaism, which is kind of a "perversion" of the original (racist) Zionist goal of a "racially Jewish" secular State in which your claim to an ethnic origin in old Israel could possibly apply (without respect to the citizen's current religion or lack thereof).

Israel only grants a "Right of Return" and automatic citizenship to those of the Jewish faith (and without regard to their genetics) and in fact has expelled people born on that land (who probably have the "Jewish" ME genes) and therefore have claim to it by birthright, tradition and ancestry. We now have the odd situation of people with a legitimate hereditary/ancestral claim by birthright to the land now called Israel who are denied their right to return to the hereditary/ancestral homeland they were born on by a theocratic State that not only denies them that right, but indeed kicked many of them out, presumably to make room for Jewish immigrants who were given a "Right of Return" and automatic citizenship, even though they may have no ancestral/genetic link to the holy land at all. On the face of it, it doesn't sound very fair to me.

So what does your Gene study really prove or suggest?…That the Zionists should have held to the original racist idea of a "racially Jewish" secular State and never allowed the Jewish religion to make Israel into a theocracy? Are you arguing in favour of secular pluralism, xenophobic racism, xenophobic religion, or a hypocritical mixture of two of them?

Your argument is very ill-defined and confusing; please clarify it.

Yes Israel worries about what everyone thinks.

That is why they spend so much time controlling the press and propaganda and that is why they were so upset when so many States voted in favor of a Palestinian State even though the vote did not mean much.

They discovered that they are not very popular in the world and that their propaganda is not working very well and people know what they are doing is wrong.

Zionism is wrong.

Identifying anti-Semitism (used here in the accepted sense)

1.Consider the source. Is the speaker someone with a history of anti-Jewish attitudes? *Check*

2.Critics who habitually single out Israel for condemnation while ignoring far worse actions by other countries (especially other Middle Eastern countries) are anti-Semitic. *Check*

3.Likening Israel to Nazi Germany, or to traditional anti-Jewish stereotypical behavior is another sure sign of Jew-baiting. *Check*

4.Attacks on the merits of Israel's existence rather than individual government policies are anti-Semitic. *Check*

It is not anti-Jewish. Zionism is political agenda. They clearly operate like Nazi's with their oppression and abuse of Arabs and with their prejudice against race, and religion.

All of what you have stated above is a big fat lie and uncalled for.

You can disagree with my political opinions but name calling and slander is uncalled for.

Most of the Zionists ruling over Israel are not Jewish. They are impostors.

Until you learn to tell the difference between a Zionist and a Jew you will remain in the dark and clueless.

I will continue to voice my opposition to tyranny and oppression against aggressors of this world and against Nazism, Zionism, and Communism and dictatorships in spite of people who do nothing more than spread propaganda hate and lies.

Zionism is one of the causes of hatred and prejudice world wide. Zionists LOVE to create anti-semitism and they are the people who use that outdated world war II slur constantly.

Its getting old and boring. Give it a rest.

3.Likening Israel to Nazi Germany, or to traditional anti-Jewish stereotypical behavior is another sure sign of Jew-baiting. *Check*



Uncalled for? More than justified in light of:

2.Critics who habitually single out Israel for condemnation while ignoring far worse actions by other countries (especially other Middle Eastern countries) are anti-Semitic. *Check*



What makes you think it's all about you? It is merely an observation of the repeated anti-Semitism (used in the accepted sense, not some CT BS). Note:

While the term's etymology might suggest that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic peoples, the term was coined in the late 19th century in Germany as a more scientific-sounding term for Judenhass ("Jew-hatred"), and that has been its normal use since then. For the purposes of a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism was considered "hatred toward Jews—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity."



Do you ever evaluate and investigate some of these insane notions before regurgitating them here? Or do you just accept them because they support your own prejudice?



I have posted repeatedly on the links between the two, if you chose to ignore them, or they were beyond your comprehension, I fail to see how that is my problem.

1.Consider the source. Is the speaker someone with a history of anti-Jewish attitudes? *Check*



1.Consider the source. Is the speaker someone with a history of anti-Jewish attitudes? *Check*

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3.Likening Israel to Nazi Germany, or to traditional anti-Jewish stereotypical behavior is another sure sign of Jew-baiting. *Check*



3.Likening Israel to Nazi Germany, or to traditional anti-Jewish stereotypical behavior is another sure sign of Jew-baiting. *Check*



What is old and boring? The endless anti-Semitic threads? If so, yes, they are, but anti-Semitism should be exposed and fought wherever it rears its pestilent head.

Until you learn to tell the difference between a Zionist and a Jew you will remain in the dark and clueless.

"Jewish" is a religion, not a race.

Zionism is a political agenda. There is nothing you can do to change these truths.

Only Zionists use the term anti-Semitism.

Tyranny is tyranny. They are good at hiding who they are but we can know them by their deeds. They always give themselves away.

They are easy to recognize.

I know the difference. I'll post this yet again as you seem to keep missing it:

There is a dangerous confluence between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism, though the two concepts are not always identical. Anti-Zionism is often used to conceal hatred of Jews. Anti-Semitic views can be easily distinguished from legitimate criticism of Israel.




I'll post this again as you keep missing it:

For the purposes of a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism was considered "hatred toward Jews—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity."

Note the use of 'ethnicity'. Do I need to supply a definition? Hence the link many make to 'racism'. Racism is not just about skin colour.



I know Zionism is a political agenda, but see above for the often repeated explanation.



Absolute nonsense. It is a unit of study at many universities and by and large, they aren't Zionists.



Ok, the usual illuminiti/zionist/CIA/Mossad/Reptilian or whatever it is this week stuff. *Tune out*

yep,I tend to call them Judeophobes!
Fits them much better!
The other terms only gives them Wrigglingroom!

here,Live With It!

PEACE.

Its not rocket science. Its easy.

yep,as easy as stopping the Jewbaiting!

I will always speak out against tyranny. Even if it happens to involve Israel's Zionism or America's war-like support of that.

I don't think drone assassinations and preemptive strikes are "self defense."

I don't think home invasion assassinations like America did to Osama Bin Laden are right.

(I doubt even if that person they killed was Bin Laden. It could have been one big fat fake show.)

so,how come we don't hear a peep about all those oppressive Governments around the Globe,but ad-nauseam about the only Democracy in the ME?

Because nowhere else is populated largely by Jews.

That could be the Clew!

That's a very good question. Why don't you ask the people who control the Major Media about that? They do a bang up job suppressing information and news about those other oppressive governments.

The Zionist press, like I have said, work very hard to create hatred and strife and what you call "anti-Semitism." They don't want any attention to go to anyone else. They want it to be all about Israel and the Arabs and Jews.

I wonder why.

Probably because while everyone is looking at that problem, the Elite are busy killing massive numbers of people in Africa or Turkey or some other third world country nobody is watching.