Of course 95% of Jews in Palestine have no roots there either. Well, a few of them may have been born there since 1948, so let's make it 75% shall we?



Best for you eh?



Sure there is…Don't you remember when the Romans wiped Israel off the map?



You could have fooled me…Didn't you read my post?:

"And ironically, the Palestinians, who are so persecuted by Israel today, are, in fact, primarily the descendants of the vast majority of Jews who were left behind in Palestine, most of whom converted to Islam when that religion swept through in the seventh and eighth centuries - and are therefore more closely related to (and far more frequently descendants of) the original Jewish inhabitants of Palestine than are the recent Zionist arrivals who so bitterly persecute them as "squatters." So, ironically, most Jews are not actually Semites, and most Palestinians are - raising the very real and ironic question of just who are the real antisemites, and just what is real antisemitism?(Ilani, Sand)"

I don't see how you could have missed it…Jeanniebean caught it.

MYTH

“Jews who lived in Islamic countries were well-treated by the Arabs.”

FACT

“Jews who lived in Islamic countries were well-treated by the Arabs.”

Though technically not Arabs (they are Persians), Iraq and Iran were pretty good to the Jews living there. In Iraq's case, it was the Zionists who practically drove them out to Israel (for propaganda reasons). In the case of Iran, the Zionist coercion was far less effective and even today Iran boasts a Jewish population in the tens of thousands who like it just fine where they are and refuse to emigrate to Israel to spite the $50,000 bribe Israel is offering for every Jew that does.

I have little doubt that in many cases, jews were forced out of Arab nations by Zionists arranging for anti-jew pograms one way or another by deceit, trickery, and coercion by Zionists masquerading as Arabs (for the purpose of creating a fact on the ground consistent with their anti-Arab propaganda). On the other hand, it is quite possible that with the Jews expecting a Jewish homeland under the Palestine Mandate, many of them probably emigrated willingly to beat the "rush". (but I think Zionist revisionist history would rather record that they were driven out, since they knew they were going to be "tangling" with the Arab countries in the future).


MYTH

“As ‘People of the Book,’ Jews and Christians are protected under Islamic law.”

FACT

“As ‘People of the Book,’ Jews and Christians are protected under Islamic law.”
(but they were mad because they had to pay taxes for not being muslims)

Jewish life in the Muslim Ottoman Empire was actually pretty good…except maybe for the taxes.



That was more true of European Christians than Muslims, or have you forgotten about the Christian butchery of the Crusades that got the Muslims to hate the West in the first place? (well I guess the relationship wasn't as much master/slave as it was butcher/meat.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

What a bunch of propaganda.

Are they still hating on the Jews?

Why wood anybody hate the people whut killd our Lord?

Isaiah said...


"He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
yet he opened not his mouth:
he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb,
so he openeth not his mouth."
Isaiah 53:7


"Our Lord said...

"Therefore doth my Father love me,
because I lay down my life,
that I might take it again.

No man taketh it from me,
but I lay it down of myself.
I have power to lay it down,
and I have power to take it again.
This commandment have I received of my Father."
John 10:17

Then Our Lord" said....

"Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them;
for they know not what they do.
And they parted his raiment, and cast lots."
Luke 23:34

See John 3:16---He gave His Son as a sacrifice.

Your very salvation is made possible through the Jews!


"Our Lord" says Israel is the "apple" of His eye.
That will never change.

This, today, is the generation that will finally realize that they
crucified their Lord, and also "our Lord".


"And I will pour upon the house of David,
and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem,
the spirit of grace and of supplications:
and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced,
and they shall mourn for him,
as one mourneth for his only son,
and shall be in bitterness for him,
as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
Zechariah 12:10

Have you forgotten that the initial spark for the Crusades was the Islamic invasion of Anatolia, a region of the so-called Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire)?

The butchery was mutual and Alexios I pleaded to the west for aid as Islamic expansion was encompassing European territory. This myth that the Crusades are responsible for the hatred of Muslims toward the west is becoming somewhat trite.

So it was political, not religious...Serves the Romans right for conquering so far into asia in the first place. Those Hattian & Hurrian natives were pretty touchy about invaders.

As if they identified themselves as such. Especially after 1,000 years had passed and they were all Roman citizens.

Didn't miss anything - just thought it was too silly to deserve
comment!

The ludicrous assertion that the Jewish Zionists persecuted Jews
rather than working for a state in which all Jews could live free
of persecution hardly deserves a response.



I will point out however that the genetic evidence shows all Jews
have common ancestry because you have repeated a false canard about
Jewish ancestry.

Jewish communities in Europe and the Middle East share many genes inherited from the ancestral Jewish population that lived in the Middle East some 3,000 years ago, even though each community also carries genes from other sources — usually the country in which it lives.

That is the conclusion of two new genetic surveys, the first to use genome-wide scanning devices to compare many Jewish communities around the world.

A major surprise from both surveys is the genetic closeness of the two Jewish communities of Europe, the Ashkenazim and the Sephardim. The Ashkenazim thrived in Northern and Eastern Europe until their devastation by the Hitler regime, and now live mostly in the United States and Israel. The Sephardim were exiled from Spain in 1492 and from Portugal in 1497 and moved to the Ottoman Empire, North Africa and the Netherlands.

The two genome surveys extend earlier studies based just on the Y chromosome, the genetic element carried by all men. They refute the suggestion made last year by the historian Shlomo Sand in his book “The Invention of the Jewish People” that Jews have no common origin but are a miscellany of people in Europe and Central Asia who converted to Judaism at various times.



http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html?_r=0

If Doesn't matter what genome surveys show. There are surveys and genome studies that show pretty much everyone stems from the Middle east except maybe Native Americans.

Shlomo Sand is a highly respected Historian who specializes in Jewish history. He reveals that most all serious Jewish Historians already know what he teaches. The Jewish people were invented.

That of course would be a controversial subject. It would mean that THE BIBLE is mostly pure fiction. Abraham, did not exist, King David did not exist, it is all myth and fiction. The Jewish People were invented.

You have not even read your genome studies in detail. Would you like a copy? There are more and stronger Jewish genes found in the Arab and Muslim people and other countries like Iraq than in Israel. Your study means nothing.

Oh No of course not. That is why DNA is generally
inadmissible as evidence. No one would pay any attention to
genetic information!

It has nothing to do with the issue of Israel's right to exist, or the Ashkenazi's aggressive war and racial prejudice against the dark skinned Semitic people in the Middle east.

The six pointed star, so thought of as being a "Jewish" symbol is the Askenazi Rothschild's family crest. The Ashkenazi's not only converted to Judaism, they married into their enemies families. That is the only the reasons 50% of the Ashkenazi genes tested can be traced back to the holy land. The Jewish people were invented. Abraham is a fictional character, King David is a fictional character, there are no "chosen people."

So there goes that excuse based on myth and fabrication.

You only make the false claims because you refuse to accept the
genetic DNA evidence of the close genetic relationship among all
Jews which can be traced to common Mideastern ancestry!



^ Kopelman NM, Stone L, Wang C, et al. (2009). "Genomic microsatellites identify shared Jewish ancestry intermediate between Middle Eastern and European populations". BMC Genetics 10: 80. doi:10.1186/1471-2156-10-80. PMC 2797531. PMID 19995433.

^ Hao L, Atzmon G, Velez C, et al. (2009). "Abraham's children in the genome era: Major Jewish diaspora populations comprise distinct genetic clusters with shared middle eastern ancestry". American Society of Human Genetics.

^ Tracing Jewish roots by Tina Hesman Saey, ScienceNews, June 3, 2010

^ Genes set Jews apart, study finds, by Thomas H. Maugh II, Los Angeles Times, June 3, 2010

^ a b Atzmon, G.; Hao, L.; Pe'er, I.; Velez, C.; Pearlman, A.; Palamara, P. F.; Morrow, B.; Friedman, E. et al. (2010). "Abraham's Children in the Genome Era: Major Jewish Diaspora Populations Comprise Distinct Genetic Clusters with Shared Middle Eastern Ancestry". American Journal of Human Genetics 86 (6): 850–859. doi:10.1016/j.ajhg.2010.04.015. PMC 3032072. PMID 20560205.

I think just about all of us can trace our genetic ancestry back to Abraham. I think we can all be about 90% sure that Abraham was an ancestor based on probability alone.

I find it quite odd the magnitude of American non-Muslims who do the bidding of radical muslims.

And even more odd that there are virtually no Muslims and absolutely no radical muslims
who put heart and soul in the cause of America's national existence.

Your country, America, is on the brink of collapse...

while you root for the gain of those who hate you and long for your death

It would seem that you bidders are puppets.
(And I won't say "brain-washed")

Just sayin...

On the contrary, I accepted and read the report completely which you apparently have not even done. I had to find in search because you never did link to the full report.

That report only found a genetic relationship in 50% of the Askenazi Jews to the Middle eastern people. That is only half of the Askenazi Jews they tested.

I certainly hope you are not referring to me.

I certainly agree with you that America is on the brink of collapse, and I know why. (And it is not because of Muslims.) It is the Rothschild and J.P. Morgan Banksters and money lenders and their usury and fraud that has taken America (and the world) to the brink of financial collapse. They will continue.

They steal the real wealth through wars and lending fraud and manipulating the stock markets and trade. Oh I know what they are planning. They create worthless paper money and contracts that in the end are worth only the paper they are written on.

If you don't have gold or silver and a supply of food and water, your money may not be good enough.

I don't understand any of the radical religions and don't much care for them to include Christianity who bows down to and supports the fabrication that there is such a thing as "God's chosen People." I think all of that is ignorance.

I can see that I am being nudged into "hating" a people I know nothing about. I will not be told whom to hate by anyone. I see who is being persecuted and it is racial and has to do with bloodlines and skin color and NOT RELIGION. Religion is a scam.

I stand against all tyranny on either side.

The money lenders and war mongers and their ignorant religions are on the way out.

Hitler spend a lot of time, money and training of youth to create a nation of people trained to hate Jews.

I will not let anyone try to tell me who I am supposed to hate or why.

What I see now, and a lot in this club is a hatred campaign against Arabs and Muslims and very few people will speak out against that.

Just like very few people in Germany dared to speak out against the hate campaign against the Jews.

I speak against what I view as tyranny. Bullies and prejudice Bigotry of skin color and race. It has little to do with the scam of a religion most of the time. People are people. Human beings.

We are human beings!

Since there seem to be so many, can you provide us with an example of an American who does the bidding of a radical muslim? Could you define a radical muslim (as opposed to an average muslim) for us?

America isn't a country or nation; it's a continent (more specifically North or South), and a nation isn't always a country, so I'm compelled to ask specifically what you mean by "America"?

On the assumption that you are referring to the corporation called the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, it has been operating in Receivership since 1933 when it went bankrupt thanks to the FED. It hasn't been able to pull itself out of the "hole" and is now on the verge of final foreclosure by the creditors. What you are seeing in the news regarding the economy is the deserting crew looting the ship of state before abandoning the sinking ship. Anyone not living outside the USA in a couple of years time is in for a mess of pain. Better move to Equador or Panama with the rest of the upper middle class before "America" sinks.

The same thing might happen to Canada, since (unfortunately) the two corporations are joined at the hip like Siamese twins. Many up here are making the same plans and getting out while the getting is good.

The puppets are the federal governments. They are governed by the central banks which are governed by the BIS, so to call yourself a citizen of either country, you are a manipulated puppet and essentially saying you are the property of a bunch of crooked bankers who are playing you all for suckers.

The problem with "America" isn't the muslims at all. The problem is the brainwashed people who can't see the true enemy.