Tit meet Tat.

So, addressing me as 'cog' wasn't intended to be an insult? Grow up. You have no clue about this subject and only intend to understand what you want to understand to prove a conclusion you wish to believe.

That is just stupid.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE I believe YOU are wrong.
Matter is produced all the time.

E=MC 2 say it with me.

What happened eons ago is happening right now IN THIS VERY MOMENT.

SAY THAT WITH ME.

The big bang happens all the time in this very moment.
It is happening now.
Now is all that exists.

Perpetually.

Do you want to discuss the illusion of TIME??

It does not exist.

"cog" means that I acknowledge that you are college educated.

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970724a.html



JB, why don't you ask a physicist?





Actually it acknowledges your objectification and belittlement of him and me, and just about every other person who works in science today and well, for the most part all of the poeple who are responsible for your standard of living you ungrateful mouth breather.

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the "big bang" was not very big at all? In fact, it was tiny.

Its still happening. But it is so tiny we can't see it. Or maybe it is only happening in David Bohm's enfolded order of reality.

So, you expect me to believe it was not used in this context?

College today produces cogs in the wheel who don't have a drop of imagination or creativity and who are terrified to question authority.

Which, in itself, is just a silly prejudice lacking foundation.

College doesn't have anything to do with it. I learned FAR more science in high school (maybe elementary school) to know absolutely that this growing Earth nonsense is far too stupid to be in any intelligent conversation.

don't feel bad just because you can't understand...the earth is not growing as you seem to think it is, the GPS satellites show the continents are moving around, the math shows their past and future projections, and also show the earth is not growing. you can certainly believe any fantasy you want, but don't get mad when we see your fantasy for what it is, a fantasy...

Above I actually am asking questions. I have heard what basic science 101 has to say about these things... the Big bang etc.

But where does any mass really come from? I think it all has to do with vibration and frequency... but what do I know? Nothing.)

I don't really think science has the answers to these all of questions. They observe, report and name things and they make statements. But most of the time they don't have the kinds of answers that are really important.

Where does the energy come from that made the mass (or the big bang if you believe that) that made the universe as we know it?

They will say that this element and that element got together and created some other element etc.

.. where did these elements come from?

Do asteroids really bring life and DNA to planets? Does a volcano in the bottom of the ocean really spit out tiny one celled organisms?

Are these not forms of life in some stage of development? If DNA is not "live" then is it not a formula for life? Where does this formula come from?

Where do these forms of life come from? What makes them alive? At what point does any bit of "matter" go from being "not alive" to alive?

Have I considered enrolling in further education?

The answer is NO. I am curious, yes, but I DON'T much respect today's academia because I see what they are cranking out.

Even our high schools are cranking out idiots who can't even read.

Even when I did go to college, my English teacher came up to me and told me that I was the only person in the class that could construct a sentence. She said these other students should have never graduated High School. She could not understand how they got into College. I will tell you how. The College's just want your money.

I don't feel "bad" at all. I am just trying to get someone to prove to me that it is "impossible."

And actually answer the questions I ask.

Nobody has yet.

There was some educational system of some sort that produced you.

It might be difficult for some to believe, but I did not end my education as soon as I graduated from high school.


Nor did I stop asking questions and reading books.


But college was a freaking joke.

i don't even know what the question is, and some have posted things the show your wrong, and what a surprise, you dismissed it because it doesn't fit into your fantasy...

No one has posted anything that "proves me wrong." I asked for someone to prove that it is "impossible" for the earth to be growing.

The only thing I have gotten so far, is a condescending video that asks the question ... if the earth is growing, where is all the extra mass coming from?


That's it so far.

I am sorry, but I already answered that on page one or page two.

I also took you seriously, and gave you two serious answers on why the earth may be alive or not, if it grows.

I also gave you the best answer at our present knowledge why the Earth does not necessarily grow.

I took your questions seriously, and gave you the best of my answers to them.

I was at first buffled by all this belligerence by others toward you. I now feel a bit for them, have some understanding for them. Because you ask for answers, and when you get them, in my case, at least, you slide over the answers, and disregard them.

That cowboy religious guy used to do that when I was in the religion forum. He irritated me to no end.

Now you are starting to do the same.

I don't mind it so much from you, but it does damage my ability to take you seriously next time and to give you a serious, well-thought out, informative answer, to the extent of course that I am capable of.

Do as you will. I won't interfere any more with your thoughts. There is no way I can, that's why I give up on trying. From where I sit it seems like you decide on one thing and keep asking things that would establish its invalidity, and when you get those very answers, you slide over them.

Sorry. This is a game, or a sickness, or insanity. I don't like to play this.

I appreciate your attempt to answer. I did not disregard it.

These were my questions:

How would you explain the fact that
1. The surface of the continents are older than the bottom of the ocean?

2.
How would you explain the fact that the continents all fit perfectly together when you shrink the earth?

Here was your answer:



So are you saying here that the land we are on currently used to be the bottom of the ocean? I don't understand why the tectonic plates (under the ocean?) are/were moving away from each other or how that would cause them to "come up" to the surface.





Slips under and below what? The continents?




All of that is very hard to understand.

The gist of what you are trying to say, I think, is that the billions of years old fossils found in Colorado, you claim, were once way under the ocean, and because of some deep plates moving around under all of that, they rose to the surface.

That still does not explain why the continents all seem to fit together when you shrink the earth.

I have heard the claim that the continents were once one big continent and the rest of the earth was just water, then they broke apart and spread around.

I can't envision that.

Therefore, it seems I have heard different and confusing explanations that I am unable to visualize.

I will watch that movie "how the earth was made" again and see if I can make some sense out of that.

Get used to it. Anyone with a speciality or an education is apparently some form of parrot, or some other nonsense.

True, I never studied science at University either (apart from a few metallurgy subjects in order to gain a better understanding of ancient technology). Geology is one of my hobbies and I can't recall doing much in biology (apart from the usual bedroom explorations) , but I do know the difference between life forms and silicates-that much is obvious to most people.

My point was, that a little higher/further education may help the OP understand the world around her so that she may not succumb to every stupid idea that goes before her. This religious the 'Earth is alive' dogma is so primitive it predates civilisation. It shouldn't even be in this section, but where 'woo' is discussed.