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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe
RKISIT's photo
Fri 02/24/12 08:55 PM
You believers crack me up you're gonna defend your myth no matter if the story of your precious God was actually another story stolen by the hebrews.The amazing part is y'all know it was stolen but still believe in it.

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Fri 02/24/12 08:58 PM

You believers crack me up you're gonna defend your myth no matter if the story of your precious God was actually another story stolen by the hebrews.The amazing part is y'all know it was stolen but still believe in it.


..that's what all of history is.

Just hand me down stories from something or one else.

..do you chastise this idea so much because it involves "magic"?
..or because it's words mean, summed up, to love thy neighbor and make the world a place actually worth living?

What's your real issue with Christianity?

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Fri 02/24/12 09:44 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Fri 02/24/12 09:59 PM


You believers crack me up you're gonna defend your myth no matter if the story of your precious God was actually another story stolen by the hebrews.The amazing part is y'all know it was stolen but still believe in it.


..that's what all of history is.

Just hand me down stories from something or one else.

..do you chastise this idea so much because it involves "magic"?
..or because it's words mean, summed up, to love thy neighbor and make the world a place actually worth living?

What's your real issue with Christianity?
It isn't just christians,it's Jews and Muslims also.The US is mostly christian that's why it's discussed more.The problem i have is simple,it's myth and it has alot of hypocrisy in it,but believers seem to think it teaches morals and values.Yeah if you pick and choose certain verses...make sure to leave the not so great verses out.There really isn't enough time for me on this planet to type all the reasons,way to many.Some of my post in this forum explain.
Oh by the way reread your part about the love thy neighbor and making the world a better place and tell that to the ones who died in the crusades and inquisition,i bet they'll beg to differ.Tell that to the holocaust victims who were praying for their god to help them.Tell that to the people in Sudan who are split half christian half muslims.Tell that to the muslims in Kosovo who were slaughtered by christians and vice versa.

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Fri 02/24/12 09:57 PM


"...no need to show evidence..."



????




RKISIT's photo
Fri 02/24/12 10:10 PM



"...no need to show evidence..."



????




naw i can't prove something doesn't exist if it doesn't exist,matter of fact i'm done with this s h i t.No point anymore to prove anything,it's pointless to continue to discuss about God when there is no God.

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Fri 02/24/12 10:12 PM




"...no need to show evidence..."



????




naw i can't prove something doesn't exist if it doesn't exist,matter of fact i'm done with this s h i t.No point anymore to prove anything,it's pointless to continue to discuss about God when there is no God.



Thank you, come again...




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Sat 02/25/12 05:23 AM

I used the example of child molestation because apparently some Priests were religiously practicing it and supposedly the church has been covering it up for perhaps centuries ...or was it a cover up or was it a belief of priests that later on became criminal
Where they really religiously practicing it? Or are you just using that in the form of doing something so often . . . ex. Martin goes to the deli religiously?


The distinction is important. If you were just being hyperbolic then I don't think the point is cogent.

The act of covering it up while disgusting is easily explained via the tribalism of the church. No different then law officers covering up other police officers crimes, heinous certainly, specifically religious . . . emm, not sold.


police officers covering up crimes is all about protecting their aspes and not about Faith

if the church were covering up Priest molestating children then perhaps the church didn't consider child molestation a crime ,and the Priest can simply utter that what they were doing to the children was of Love and a matter of Faith ....and this is why I've asked "Is Faith Moral"?

in order to address these issues is why a clear explanation as to what Faith is, needs to be presented

as I stated... so far believers have place Faith between the realms of delusion and witch craft

I think no one with Faith wants to give a clear definition as to what Faith is because then it will display that a person with Faith should also be willing to take responsibility as to what they have Faith in ..and of course believers just want to have belief and Faith and spread their ideaology without taking any responsibility for doing so

so Bushidobillyclub....what is Faith? ...


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Sat 02/25/12 05:30 AM



Find where God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ?


God told Abraham to kill his son Isaac as a sacifice

It was a test.

Abraham failed (but God judged him not).



God gave Abraham a direct command to kill his son but instead
Abraham chose to listen to an angel that told him not to do it...Abraham loved his son more than he loved God

probably another reason why God grieved

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Sat 02/25/12 07:05 AM

as I stated... so far believers have place Faith between the realms of delusion and witch craft



This is funches confessing the he, himself, is a believer.


Back on page one, he placed faith between the realms of delusion and witchcraft.

Since no one else has made such claims, it is funches who is in fact, the "believers" he references.


As a believer, he classifies himself a delusional or a sorcerer.


No need to twist his words, he already has....


Care to play a game?




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Sat 02/25/12 07:24 AM


as I stated... so far believers have place Faith between the realms of delusion and witch craft



This is funches confessing the he, himself, is a believer.


Back on page one, he placed faith between the realms of delusion and witchcraft.

Since no one else has made such claims, it is funches who is in fact, the "believers" he references.


As a believer, he classifies himself a delusional or a sorcerer.


No need to twist his words, he already has....


Care to play a game?



so is this an example of Faith ...claiming that a non-believer is a believer which cause little elves to float down and magically make wishes come true

listen up forum people, I'm no longer a troll ...Peter_Pan used his Faith and magically turned me into a believer

it's a miracle , hallelujah, praise, can I get a witness

or perhaps Peter_Pan is yet just another example of how believers deflect from telling what Faith is in an attempt to avoid taking responsibility for their belief which they claim is truth due to Faith

but anyway..

so Peter_Pan what is Faith?

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Sat 02/25/12 07:29 AM



as I stated... so far believers have place Faith between the realms of delusion and witch craft



This is funches confessing the he, himself, is a believer.


Back on page one, he placed faith between the realms of delusion and witchcraft.

Since no one else has made such claims, it is funches who is in fact, the "believers" he references.


As a believer, he classifies himself a delusional or a sorcerer.


No need to twist his words, he already has....


Care to play a game?



so is this an example of Faith ...claiming that a non-believer is a believer which cause little elves to float down and magically make wishes come true

listen up forum people, I'm no longer a troll ...Peter_Pan used his Faith and magically turned me into a believer

it's a miracle , hallelujah, praise, can I get a witness

or perhaps Peter_Pan is yet just another example of how believers deflect from telling what Faith is in an attempt to avoid taking responsibility for their belief which they claim is truth due to Faith

but anyway..

so Peter_Pan what is Faith?



Faith is what it takes to transform a self-confessed troll into a believer.


Wake and rise. Now pick up your bed and think clearly, your faith has healed you in your time of delusion...




CowboyGH's photo
Sat 02/25/12 07:55 AM



You believers crack me up you're gonna defend your myth no matter if the story of your precious God was actually another story stolen by the hebrews.The amazing part is y'all know it was stolen but still believe in it.


..that's what all of history is.

Just hand me down stories from something or one else.

..do you chastise this idea so much because it involves "magic"?
..or because it's words mean, summed up, to love thy neighbor and make the world a place actually worth living?

What's your real issue with Christianity?
It isn't just christians,it's Jews and Muslims also.The US is mostly christian that's why it's discussed more.The problem i have is simple,it's myth and it has alot of hypocrisy in it,but believers seem to think it teaches morals and values.Yeah if you pick and choose certain verses...make sure to leave the not so great verses out.There really isn't enough time for me on this planet to type all the reasons,way to many.Some of my post in this forum explain.
Oh by the way reread your part about the love thy neighbor and making the world a better place and tell that to the ones who died in the crusades and inquisition,i bet they'll beg to differ.Tell that to the holocaust victims who were praying for their god to help them.Tell that to the people in Sudan who are split half christian half muslims.Tell that to the muslims in Kosovo who were slaughtered by christians and vice versa.


There are no such things as "Christian Crusades". Yes they may hold that title or whatever they wish to call themselves, but the root of "Christ"ianity is Christ. Jesus does not condone nor support the crusades. There is not one teaching from Jesus to support this action.

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Sat 02/25/12 08:45 AM


Faith is what it takes to transform a self-confessed troll into a believer.


Wake and rise. Now pick up your bed and think clearly, your faith has healed you in your time of delusion...



so you believe Faith is delusion? ..thanks Peter_Pan

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Sat 02/25/12 08:51 AM

There are no such things as "Christian Crusades". Yes they may hold that title or whatever they wish to call themselves,


wouldn't the fact that they call themselves Christian Crusades, mean that they are such things as Christians crusades ...as usual your post contradicts itself

but anyway

Cowboy...what is Faith? ...

and can you explain it without contradicting yourself



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Sat 02/25/12 09:02 AM



Faith is what it takes to transform a self-confessed troll into a believer.


Wake and rise. Now pick up your bed and think clearly, your faith has healed you in your time of delusion...



so you believe Faith is delusion? ..thanks Peter_Pan



Nah....

But I do have faith in your delusion. Never-ending, eternal torment.


My faith hath condemned mine self...




For all those playing @home, did faith heal his delusion(s)?


Nah, looks like he lacks faith. Might be because he thinks it's a delusion...



Catch-22!

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl



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Sat 02/25/12 09:04 AM

Nah....

But I do have faith in your delusion. Never-ending, eternal torment.


so Faith is wishing evil upon others?....ok thanks Peter_Pan

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 02/25/12 09:23 AM



Faith is what it takes to transform a self-confessed troll into a believer.


Wake and rise. Now pick up your bed and think clearly, your faith has healed you in your time of delusion...



so you believe Faith is delusion? ..thanks Peter_Pan


Faith goes the other way to. Just because one doesn't believe in a "religio" does not mean they do not have "faith". They just lack the fact thereof. But nevertheless they have faith in there not being a God.

So guess you're delusional then by your own words Funches?

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 02/25/12 09:26 AM


There are no such things as "Christian Crusades". Yes they may hold that title or whatever they wish to call themselves,


wouldn't the fact that they call themselves Christian Crusades, mean that they are such things as Christians crusades ...as usual your post contradicts itself

but anyway

Cowboy...what is Faith? ...

and can you explain it without contradicting yourself





As always you just wish to argue instead of have an interlectual conversation.

No, just because someone claims to be something doesn't make them what they claim to be. That would be like a man trying to claim to be a woman and hold it as absolute truths. Or a person that is only 5 foot professing with every bit of himself that he is 6 foot. Just because someone claims to be something doesn't make it so.

Being a Christian is more then a title. It is a way of life.

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 02/25/12 09:27 AM


Nah....

But I do have faith in your delusion. Never-ending, eternal torment.


so Faith is wishing evil upon others?....ok thanks Peter_Pan


If you place your faith of being in never-ending, eternal torment, then yes. Faith is not a thing or object, it is what YOU believe with absolute to be true.

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Sat 02/25/12 09:33 AM


Nah....

But I do have faith in your delusion. Never-ending, eternal torment.


so Faith is wishing evil upon others?....ok thanks Peter_Pan



You're welcome, but your delusions are trol..., I mean troubling you...

Delusion = Yours
Eternal Torment = Mine



Are you sure you wanna play this game?



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