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I would not have thought of using that language at 15, especially towards or about the people who provided for me and kept me safe,,,my parents
although I Didnt HEAR That type of language in my home, and perhaps this child has,,,who knows? its just a different time with different 'acceptable' standards,, unfortunately apparently this is an old fashoned family who refuses to find it acceptable,,, |
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I would not have thought of using that language at 15, especially towards or about the people who provided for me and kept me safe,,,my parents although I Didnt HEAR That type of language in my home, and perhaps this child has,,,who knows? its just a different time with different 'acceptable' standards,, unfortunately apparently this is an old fashoned family who refuses to find it acceptable,,, So he goes out and shoots a Laptop..... What would his Grandfather have done... taken a shotgun to the radio |
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the family probably could use counsel on how to 'talk' with each other and find better ways to resolve things I think they tried that the first time she did it. Lol they point is the parents did not listen and start doing things equally. parents who are WORKING TO PROVIDE are not 'relaxing' , children need to learn a family is a unit where everyone CONTRIBUTES for the household to run smoothly if the parents are WORKING to pay the bills, the children(and by this I mean TEENS who EXPECT Everything handed to them) should be WORKING to maintain the other responsibilities in the home,,, The point is the parents were not contributing, they have work she has school, and it's their duty to support her. she should do no more then them. have you ever worked to provide for a household and children before? lol I doubt she is doing 'more than them' I am a single father of 2 who works very hard to provide for his children. Her parents relax while she cleans and fetches coffee, do they bring her coffee? does she take them to their functions? pay for the gas? work to earn the money to pay for the gas? work to earn the money to pay to be warm and to eat? does she prepare meals? does she budget the books so they can keep their home? in a tit for tat, most kids (including her most likely) are coming up really short on the 'work' part of the equation,,, they deserve time to 'relax' if they are making sure she has those things, and she deserves to be contributing as well beyond getting the education that is for HER OWN BENEFIT, but doing things that likewise benefit the HOUSEHOLD She does not need to do any of that she is their child, it is their job to go to work and provide for her. She Will do all that when she is older and has children. She needs to focus on school which is just as stressful as any job, plus she has homework and studying. If they did not want to provide her with an education and these things they should not have had children. She owes them nothing for the things they provide her as they brought her in to this world. She is doing what she needs to with school, them with work, the things they have should all benefit them equally such as the maid. No need for her to do chores and these things if they don't. Gas and bills are not even a factor as these are things that should have before children with out the expectation of them helping with those things. |
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I would not have thought of using that language at 15, especially towards or about the people who provided for me and kept me safe,,,my parents although I Didnt HEAR That type of language in my home, and perhaps this child has,,,who knows? its just a different time with different 'acceptable' standards,, unfortunately apparently this is an old fashoned family who refuses to find it acceptable,,, So he goes out and shoots a Laptop..... What would his Grandfather have done... taken a shotgun to the radio agreed I commend parents who discipline, but I dont agree with the method used and think its a sign of a lack of communication or coping skills within the family |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 02/10/12 05:49 PM
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the family probably could use counsel on how to 'talk' with each other and find better ways to resolve things I think they tried that the first time she did it. Lol they point is the parents did not listen and start doing things equally. parents who are WORKING TO PROVIDE are not 'relaxing' , children need to learn a family is a unit where everyone CONTRIBUTES for the household to run smoothly if the parents are WORKING to pay the bills, the children(and by this I mean TEENS who EXPECT Everything handed to them) should be WORKING to maintain the other responsibilities in the home,,, The point is the parents were not contributing, they have work she has school, and it's their duty to support her. she should do no more then them. have you ever worked to provide for a household and children before? lol I doubt she is doing 'more than them' I am a single father of 2 who works very hard to provide for his children. Her parents relax while she cleans and fetches coffee, do they bring her coffee? does she take them to their functions? pay for the gas? work to earn the money to pay for the gas? work to earn the money to pay to be warm and to eat? does she prepare meals? does she budget the books so they can keep their home? in a tit for tat, most kids (including her most likely) are coming up really short on the 'work' part of the equation,,, they deserve time to 'relax' if they are making sure she has those things, and she deserves to be contributing as well beyond getting the education that is for HER OWN BENEFIT, but doing things that likewise benefit the HOUSEHOLD She does not need to do any of that she is their child, it is their job to go to work and provide for her. She Will do all that when she is older and has children. She needs to focus on school which is just as stressful as any job, plus she has homework and studying. If they did not want to provide her with an education and these things they should not have had children. She owes them nothing for the things they provide her as they brought her in to this world. She is doing what she needs to with school, them with work, the things they have should all benefit them equally such as the maid. No need for her to do chores and these things if they don't. Gas and bills are not even a factor as these are things that should have before children with out the expectation of them helping with those things. we will agree to disagree Love goes both ways, it isnt a freeby just because you are a child its unhealthy to have an attitude that just because someone bore me they OWE me all these things and I should not have to do anything in return to show gratitude or to HELP Them in return,,, just like parents SHOULD LOVE (ie provide for)their child, a child should LOVE (ie contribute towards) the life their parents have provided a family is a UNIT and all must contribute something, typically that contribution from the parents is the home , the needs, and often times many of the wants of the children children need to learn they arent ENTITLED to it just because they were born just my opinion |
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I agree with msharmony.
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces....
i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. |
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the family probably could use counsel on how to 'talk' with each other and find better ways to resolve things I think they tried that the first time she did it. Lol they point is the parents did not listen and start doing things equally. parents who are WORKING TO PROVIDE are not 'relaxing' , children need to learn a family is a unit where everyone CONTRIBUTES for the household to run smoothly if the parents are WORKING to pay the bills, the children(and by this I mean TEENS who EXPECT Everything handed to them) should be WORKING to maintain the other responsibilities in the home,,, The point is the parents were not contributing, they have work she has school, and it's their duty to support her. she should do no more then them. have you ever worked to provide for a household and children before? lol I doubt she is doing 'more than them' I am a single father of 2 who works very hard to provide for his children. Her parents relax while she cleans and fetches coffee, do they bring her coffee? does she take them to their functions? pay for the gas? work to earn the money to pay for the gas? work to earn the money to pay to be warm and to eat? does she prepare meals? does she budget the books so they can keep their home? in a tit for tat, most kids (including her most likely) are coming up really short on the 'work' part of the equation,,, they deserve time to 'relax' if they are making sure she has those things, and she deserves to be contributing as well beyond getting the education that is for HER OWN BENEFIT, but doing things that likewise benefit the HOUSEHOLD She does not need to do any of that she is their child, it is their job to go to work and provide for her. She Will do all that when she is older and has children. She needs to focus on school which is just as stressful as any job, plus she has homework and studying. If they did not want to provide her with an education and these things they should not have had children. She owes them nothing for the things they provide her as they brought her in to this world. She is doing what she needs to with school, them with work, the things they have should all benefit them equally such as the maid. No need for her to do chores and these things if they don't. Gas and bills are not even a factor as these are things that should have before children with out the expectation of them helping with those things. we will agree to disagree Love goes both ways, it isnt a freeby just because you are a child a family is a UNIT and all must contribute something, typically that contribution from the parents is the home , the needs, and often times many of the wants of the children children need to learn they arent ENTITLED to it just because they were born just my opinion Still if a child expresses feelings of inequality, they do not deserved to be punished for it. You should never be punished for expressing yourself. She did nothing wrong with that post in my opinion. |
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces.... i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. 
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces.... i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. I agree. IN a healthy home they dont. IN a healthy home, children learn an attitude of GRATEFULNESS instead of entitlement and they WANT to contribute in return instead of just asking for more and more,,,,,, |
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the family probably could use counsel on how to 'talk' with each other and find better ways to resolve things I think they tried that the first time she did it. Lol they point is the parents did not listen and start doing things equally. parents who are WORKING TO PROVIDE are not 'relaxing' , children need to learn a family is a unit where everyone CONTRIBUTES for the household to run smoothly if the parents are WORKING to pay the bills, the children(and by this I mean TEENS who EXPECT Everything handed to them) should be WORKING to maintain the other responsibilities in the home,,, The point is the parents were not contributing, they have work she has school, and it's their duty to support her. she should do no more then them. have you ever worked to provide for a household and children before? lol I doubt she is doing 'more than them' I am a single father of 2 who works very hard to provide for his children. Her parents relax while she cleans and fetches coffee, do they bring her coffee? does she take them to their functions? pay for the gas? work to earn the money to pay for the gas? work to earn the money to pay to be warm and to eat? does she prepare meals? does she budget the books so they can keep their home? in a tit for tat, most kids (including her most likely) are coming up really short on the 'work' part of the equation,,, they deserve time to 'relax' if they are making sure she has those things, and she deserves to be contributing as well beyond getting the education that is for HER OWN BENEFIT, but doing things that likewise benefit the HOUSEHOLD She does not need to do any of that she is their child, it is their job to go to work and provide for her. She Will do all that when she is older and has children. She needs to focus on school which is just as stressful as any job, plus she has homework and studying. If they did not want to provide her with an education and these things they should not have had children. She owes them nothing for the things they provide her as they brought her in to this world. She is doing what she needs to with school, them with work, the things they have should all benefit them equally such as the maid. No need for her to do chores and these things if they don't. Gas and bills are not even a factor as these are things that should have before children with out the expectation of them helping with those things. we will agree to disagree Love goes both ways, it isnt a freeby just because you are a child a family is a UNIT and all must contribute something, typically that contribution from the parents is the home , the needs, and often times many of the wants of the children children need to learn they arent ENTITLED to it just because they were born just my opinion Still if a child expresses feelings of inequality, they do not deserved to be punished for it. You should never be punished for expressing yourself. She did nothing wrong with that post in my opinion. everybody runs their home their own way,,, my kids have more intelligent ways to express themself than to use such vulgarity and I wont set the bar that low for them or allow them to set it that low for themself,,, nor did my parents, or theirs,,,,, |
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Edited by
DaddyTime
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Fri 02/10/12 05:57 PM
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces.... i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. I agree. IN a healthy home they dont. IN a healthy home, children learn an attitude of GRATEFULNESS instead of entitlement and they WANT to contribute in return instead of just asking for more and more,,,,,, Must not be many healthy homes as I know few adults who ever learned this themselves. I think most mistake a child's excitement in wanting a new thing as a sense of entitlement. We all want things as adult we whine for raises as children we ask our parents. |
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces.... i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. I have seriously known kids whose parents were totally irresponsible and neglectful, even abusive! There are so many! That is why it bugs me when I see kids who have all they need and have good parents who work and provide for them and yet they feel oppressed and whine on facebook if they have chores. Give me a break. Once my mom was worried whether or not she had been a good parent. I told her that I thank God they were not abusive or drunks or drug addicts like so many parents are. I am and always have been thankful for my parents. |
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces.... i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. Children do not ask to be born |
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces.... i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. I agree. IN a healthy home they dont. IN a healthy home, children learn an attitude of GRATEFULNESS instead of entitlement and they WANT to contribute in return instead of just asking for more and more,,,,,, Must not be many healthy homes as I know few adults who ever learned this themselves. I think most mistake a child's excitement in wanting a new thing as a sense of entitlement. We all want things as adult we whine for raises as children we ask our parents. there is a difference between being excited and being disrespectful,,, if a child who is provided all their needs and even some of their wants thinks it happens because the parents are doing 'nothing' they are either disrespectful or uneducated about reality,, in either case clarification is justified on the parents part,,,, the issue, in my opinion, wasnt what she wanted, it was how she went about it and the disrespect shown to her parents |
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces.... i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. I have seriously known kids whose parents were totally irresponsible and neglectful, even abusive! There are so many! That is why it bugs me when I see kids who have all they need and have good parents who work and provide for them and yet they feel oppressed and whine on facebook if they have chores. Give me a break. Once my mom was worried whether or not she had been a good parent. I told her that I thank God they were not abusive or drunks or drug addicts like so many parents are. I am and always have been thankful for my parents. Having good parents is not a privilege it's a right, and what other kids have or don't have is no concern of you're child's. You love them because you're suppose to, it's bad for children who don't and we should all feel for them but. children should not feel privileged if the do as it's something they should have. |
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I agree 100% DaddyTime...
children should be allowed to express themselves. We don't always have to like it, they do have that right. People say they encourage their children to move away from the herd, be free thinkers...seems only when they express themselves in a way WE want them to. If they express themselves and we disagree with the message or the tactic, then we condemn them, tell them their wrong, punish them. This girl maybe is a brat...ok, fine. She is also unhappy and resentful. She posted to her friends because she couldn't talk to these wonderful adults in her life. Instead of a caring concerned response, she gets punished. I can't wrap my mind around this being ok with anyone. But then, some thought the judge beating his daughter was appropriate and she deserved it...so 
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces.... i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. Children do not ask to be born
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces.... i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. Children do not ask to be born but they sure ask for everything else once they get here ,  and parents, unlike magicians, cant make it 'materialize' out of thin air thats why its important once they are here to teach them the reality of how privilege comes at the cost of responsibility and how being provided for , even by parents, should come with an attitude of appreciation instead of expectation,,, |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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And parents shouldn't rub every thing they do for their kids in their kids faces.... i feed you i clothe you i buy the food i pay the bills you live in MY house bla, bla, bla that's what parents do! People wonder why their kids hate em. I have seriously known kids whose parents were totally irresponsible and neglectful, even abusive! There are so many! That is why it bugs me when I see kids who have all they need and have good parents who work and provide for them and yet they feel oppressed and whine on facebook if they have chores. Give me a break. Once my mom was worried whether or not she had been a good parent. I told her that I thank God they were not abusive or drunks or drug addicts like so many parents are. I am and always have been thankful for my parents. Having good parents is not a privilege it's a right, and what other kids have or don't have is no concern of you're child's. You love them because you're suppose to, it's bad for children who don't and we should all feel for them but. children should not feel privileged if the do as it's something they should have. I don't know what world you live in but I live in the real world. I am not saying that "children should feel privileged." I am sayinG that THEY SHOULD FEEL GRATEFUL. Gratitude is always good. BE THANKFUL. If you have good home, good parents, be thankful. If you are not, then you are just clueless. |
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