BRUSSELS – Growing global anti-Semitism is linked to Israel’s policy towards the Palestinians, the American ambassador to Belgium told stunned Jewish conference attendants in Brussels earlier this week.




Speaking Wednesday at a Jewish conference on anti-Semitism organized by the European Jewish Union (EJU,) Howard Gutman told participants he was apologizing in advance if his words are not to their liking. He then proceeded to make controversial statements about his views on Muslim anti-Semitism, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday.






A distinction should be made between traditional anti-Semitism, which should be condemned and Muslim hatred for Jews, which stems from the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, Gutman said. He also argued that an Israeli-Palestinian peace treaty will significantly diminish Muslim anti-Semitism.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4156355,00.html

The Muslims worked with Hitler, with the agreement that after Hitler won his war, the Germans would help the Muslims kill the Jews. That was before Israel was established as a nation.

the good Ambassador is sorely mistaken if he thinks that the Muslims want a Peace-Treaty with the Jews!

But what can you expect from a Selfhating Jew?
His Pa ought to slap some sense in his head!

The facts are Mr Conrad that anti- semitism is groweing worse and a logical approach would be to identify why this is.

Realy people are naturaly sympathetic to Jewish people due to the Holocaust and it takes a great deal of effort to overcome this conditioning

My informed opinion is that anti semitism is groweing because Israel treats palastine the way Hitler treated Poland, that is what we call an informed opinion based on facts and reality.

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html#part2

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/arafat_en.html


The Nazi-Thug Amin Al Husseini and his equally thuggish Nephew Yasser Arafat!

Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!

Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm

Dunnit again!
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/150360

Obama in Hot Water Over Envoy’s Anti-Israel Remarks
The White House distanced itself from an ambassador’s blaming Israel for fueling anti-Semitism because of the standoff with the PA.
By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
First Publish: 12/4/2011, 10:32 AM



The White House hurriedly distanced itself from an ambassador’s blaming Israel for fueling anti-Semitism because of the standoff with the Palestinian Authority.

Howard Gutman, U.S. Ambassador to Belgium, told a conference of Jewish lawyers last week, ““A distinction should be made between traditional anti-Semitism, which should be condemned and Muslim hatred for Jews, which stems from the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.”

Gutman added that reaching a peace pact with the Palestinian Authority will reduce anti-Semitism. He was speaking at a conference on how to combat anti-Semitism, which he claimed is not worsening.

His remarks reflect views of the State Department, which has been conducting a behind-the-scenes campaign for more than 30 years to eliminate a Jewish presence in Judea and Samaria.

Gutman, who helped raised half a million dollars for President Barack Obama’s presidential campaign in 2008, surprised the lawyers' conference with his remarks after telling the lawyers they would ”not hear what they expect.”

He also surprised the White House, which quickly issued a statement that "we condemn anti-Semitism in all its forms.” It added, “There is never any justification for prejudice against the Jewish people or Israel."

Republican presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich did not miss a beat and sent a Twitter message, "Pres Obama should fire his ambassador to Brussels for being so wrong about anti-Semitism."

Funny isnt it that whomeever wishes to discuss these things in a logical manner gets vilified.

And who cares what Newt Gringrich thinks

so why should anyone care what you think!
And if you think you have been "Vilified",think again!
Just hope no one ever REALLY VILIFIES you!

Its not about me Mr Conrad. I was spaking of your post israelnationalnews or whatever your link was.

Of course Newt Israels hand puppet says anyone who wishes to discuss this topic based on reality should be fired.

They only wish uninformed propagated comments on this subject.

Newt isnt he the guy who cheated on all three of his wives?
glad to see he is breaking with republican tradition and going for the opposit sex and not underage boys.

its also funny that a valid logical statement should be seen as
'anti israel'


would anyone think I was anti male if I said we should make a distinction between anti male sentiment that stems from growing media representation of male crime and that which stems from females who have been abused by males in growing numbers?


Its common sense, there are different PLACES from which hate arises,, some much more understandable than others,,,,

The disgraceful treatment of Palestinians by the state of Israel for the past 65 years hasn't helped the Jewish cause.

Political Zionism is the worst enemy of Israel and the Jewish people.

Yeah right. Another Jew bashing thread.



Hitler and the Spanish Inquisition predated modern Israel.
Bigots hate Israel because it is a Jewish state not the other way around!

are we actually denying that hate can and does come from conflict?

its not a statement that all hate comes from this , but its certainly realistic, honest, and not 'hateful' to aknowledge that some of it definitely does....

The curious views of Howard Gutman on anti-Semitism

Who said, "A distinction should be made between traditional anti-Semitism, which should be condemned, and Muslim hatred for Jews, which stems from the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians?"

Was it a spokesperson for Hamas or the Muslim Brotherhood? Or perhaps the United Nations Human Rights Council made this statement in one of their infamous resolutions denouncing the state of Israel?

No, the speaker was the current United States Ambassador to Belgium, Howard Gutman. And our most esteemed Ambassador delivered this rancid jumble of hate to a stunned audience at a major Jewish conference on anti-Semitism organized by the European Jewish Union (EJU).

No one could make this up. From Ynetnews we learn:

Earlier, Gutman also presented participants with a short video clip showing him received with warm applause at a Muslim school in Brussels. While he did not mention what prompted the warm reception, his message was that this is the kind of welcome given to a Jew who supports President Obama's policy of openness to Islam.

The conference was attended by Jewish lawyers from across Europe. The legal experts at the event were visibly stunned by Gutman's words, and the next speaker offered a scathing rebuttal to the envoy's remarks.

"The modern Anti-Semite formally condemns Anti-Semitism and the Holocaust and expresses upmost sympathy with the Jewish people. He simply has created a new species, the "Anti-Zionist" or - even more sophisticated - the so-called 'Israel critic,'" Germany attorney Nathan Gelbart said.

"The 'Israel critic' will never state 'Jews go home' but is questioning the legality of the incorporation of the State of Israel and therefore the right for the Jewish people to settle in their homeland. He will not say the Jews are the evil of the world but claim that the State of Israel is a major cause for instability and war in the region," he said. "There is no other country, no other people on this planet the 'Israel critic' would dedicate so much time and devotion as to the case of Israel."

"For no other country he would criticize or ask to boycott its goods or academics. And this for one simple reason: Because Israel is the state of the Jewish people, not more and not less," Gelbart said.

The American envoy, a lawyer by training, is Jewish and played a major role in fundraising for the Democratic Party. He was appointed to the post by President Barack Obama.

Just for the record, US ambassadors do not make any policy statements about Israel or anti- Semitism without each word being carefully vetted by all levels of the State Department. Yes, Madam Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, we know you approved this statement, as did the West Wing of the White House. To put it bluntly, this stinking pile of offal is the official policy of the government of the United States of America.

Elections have consequences. November 6, 2012 is just 48 weeks away. Use the time wisely.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/12/the_curious_views_of_howard_gutman_on_anti-semitism.html

Update, Ted Belman writes:

The two recent speeches reported here, one by Panetta and one by Gutman, both Obama appointees, and both spokespersons for his administration, had one thing in common, blame Israel.

Panetta blamed Israel for the absence of negotiations with the Palis and he blamed Israel for the worsening relations with Turkey Egypt and Jordan.

Gutman blamed Israel for the "for growing antisemitism harbored by people of Muslim faith." To call them "muslims" might be seen as a pejorative so he consciously called then "people of the Muslim faith". But I digress.

On Sept 23, Bill Clinton made a speech in which he blamed Netayahu for killing the peace process. He also noted that at Camp David, "they (the Arabs) also had an Israeli government that was willing to give them East Jerusalem as the capital of the new state of Palestine." I mention this because the Atlantic Monthly recently published an article by Daniel Seidemann in which he wrote "Israeli settlement activities in East Jerusalem will soon render the geography and demography of the city so balkanized that it will no longer be possible to create a viable Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem. This means the end of the two-state solution, since Palestinians will never agree to a solution that does not include a capital in East Jerusalem".

This is not by happenstance. It is a coordinated attempt by the Obama administration to make Israel and more specifically, Netanyahu, the fall guy for all that's wrong in the Middle East and specifically for the absence of peace. If only, Israel would make more concessions.

Of course Obama stays above the fray and pats himself on the back for being Israel's best friend ever.

Netanyahu's historic speech before both houses of the US government in May, laid down his red lines which included keeping Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel. The audience roared in approval. Netanyahu's approval ratings both in the US and in Israel, soared.

Obama had to claw his way back to re-establish his policy of pushing for peace based on the '67 lines with swaps and a divided Jerusalem. What you see and hear is his game plan for doing so.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/12/the_curious_views_of_howard_gutman_on_anti-semitism.html


Obama,The Manchurian President!

Jew-hatred in particular has been known long long long long before
modern Israel and the Paletinians conflict.

The incredibly ignorant assertion of the OP is that Jew-hatred
originates from the founding of the state of Israel when just the
opposite is true.

Why is there conflict surrounding Israel? Why didn't the Arab
population in the region welcome them with open arms and live
side by side with the Zionist Israelis who were forced to emigrate
and find a secure place to live among their fellow Jews?

BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWS!



Go back and read the historical record. They attacked Israel and
vow to destroy it because it is a Jewish state.

So it is not a statement about all conflict. It is a fact about
this conflict!

wish he'd read up on Al Husseini,the Mufti of Jerusalem and Nazi Collaborator and an avid Helper in the Armenian Genocide!

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html

No Laughing matter...This is an emotive topic no need for cartoon shite.

As the great Jewish writer Primo Levi once remarked “Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians”. By creating a middle Eastern version of the Warsaw ghetto they are recapitulating their own history as though they’ve forgotten it.