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Topic: 'Jew-hate stems from conflict'
Bestinshow's photo
Mon 12/05/11 07:06 PM


If you dont like what I say you can find out were I got the information, you can criticize it you can disagree no problemb thats just basic.

But how can anyone disagree that the three stooges were not awsome jews!

However that is the topic for another thread eh?


Conflict between the Stooges made people love them. Therefore, conflict fosters love, not hate. Check and mate.

Welcome to reality Mr spidercmb, conflict is no fun at all and never ever fosters love laugh

Well maybe thats how those crazy neocons show love but those of us with humanity foser love by, well loveing.


How can you claim check and mate with a totaly absurd thought?

Thats it for me fellows enjoy the thread and thanks for the entertainment on this crazy rainy dreary Ohio eveneing.

This officialy brings monday to a close.

s1owhand's photo
Mon 12/05/11 07:23 PM




funny,you all hollering about Propaganda,while cranking out one Judeophobic Thread after another!


Mr. Conrad all I have posted is what a member of our government has stated.

If you find something innacurate please feel free to be specefic and use logic and source information.

Your comments are becomeing more and more absurd.


The point that was made is that although the topic of this thread
is how Jew-hatred is caused by the Palestinian conflict EXACTLY
THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.

The conflict is caused by Jew-hatred. This is why the WW2 pics are
shown - to show that the Jew-hate PRECEDED the Palestinian conflict
in the region (although if of course goes back many centuries
even before that.

This shows how the inane idea that Jews brought this on themselves
is a ridiculous argument like blaming blacks for bringing lynching
upon themselves for example.

This is what was stated.

A distinction should be made between traditional anti-Semitism, which should be condemned and Muslim hatred for Jews, which stems from the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, Gutman said. He also argued that an Israeli-Palestinian peace treaty will significantly diminish Muslim anti-Semitism.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4156355,00.html


What part exactly do you not comprehend?


There is no distinction between "traditional antisemitism" and
"nouveau riche antisemitism". It is all antisemitism.

Peace treaties never diminished Muslim antisemitism, German
antisemitism or Russian antisemitism. For example ceding the
Gaza strip with peace agreements did not diminish Muslim
antisemitism at all. In fact, if anything Muslim antisemitism
simply got more open and virulent after the Gaza agreements
ultimately leading to Hamastan in Gaza.

So that point of view is just nonsense - it is backwards.

Peace agreements do not lead to reduced antisemitism!
Reduced antisemitism leads to peace agreements!!

whoa

laugh

no photo
Mon 12/05/11 07:39 PM

How can you claim check and mate with a totaly absurd thought?


I'm just awesome like that.

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 12/06/11 01:34 AM





funny,you all hollering about Propaganda,while cranking out one Judeophobic Thread after another!


Mr. Conrad all I have posted is what a member of our government has stated.

If you find something innacurate please feel free to be specefic and use logic and source information.

Your comments are becomeing more and more absurd.


The point that was made is that although the topic of this thread
is how Jew-hatred is caused by the Palestinian conflict EXACTLY
THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.

The conflict is caused by Jew-hatred. This is why the WW2 pics are
shown - to show that the Jew-hate PRECEDED the Palestinian conflict
in the region (although if of course goes back many centuries
even before that.

This shows how the inane idea that Jews brought this on themselves
is a ridiculous argument like blaming blacks for bringing lynching
upon themselves for example.

This is what was stated.

A distinction should be made between traditional anti-Semitism, which should be condemned and Muslim hatred for Jews, which stems from the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, Gutman said. He also argued that an Israeli-Palestinian peace treaty will significantly diminish Muslim anti-Semitism.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4156355,00.html


What part exactly do you not comprehend?


There is no distinction between "traditional antisemitism" and
"nouveau riche antisemitism". It is all antisemitism.

Peace treaties never diminished Muslim antisemitism, German
antisemitism or Russian antisemitism. For example ceding the
Gaza strip with peace agreements did not diminish Muslim
antisemitism at all. In fact, if anything Muslim antisemitism
simply got more open and virulent after the Gaza agreements
ultimately leading to Hamastan in Gaza.

So that point of view is just nonsense - it is backwards.

Peace agreements do not lead to reduced antisemitism!
Reduced antisemitism leads to peace agreements!!

whoa

laugh
Here we go again, anyone who criticizes Isreal is anti semitic.

Even when they are wrong and wasteing american tax payer money no one dare speak out lest they be labled anti- semite.

I dont think I would realy care if not for the fact america has to borrow the money we (give) to Isreal all the while they spy on us and commit humane rights abuses in Palastine.


Bestinshow's photo
Tue 12/06/11 01:34 AM
Edited by Bestinshow on Tue 12/06/11 01:46 AM





funny,you all hollering about Propaganda,while cranking out one Judeophobic Thread after another!


Mr. Conrad all I have posted is what a member of our government has stated.

If you find something innacurate please feel free to be specefic and use logic and source information.

Your comments are becomeing more and more absurd.


The point that was made is that although the topic of this thread
is how Jew-hatred is caused by the Palestinian conflict EXACTLY
THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.

The conflict is caused by Jew-hatred. This is why the WW2 pics are
shown - to show that the Jew-hate PRECEDED the Palestinian conflict
in the region (although if of course goes back many centuries
even before that.

This shows how the inane idea that Jews brought this on themselves
is a ridiculous argument like blaming blacks for bringing lynching
upon themselves for example.

This is what was stated.

A distinction should be made between traditional anti-Semitism, which should be condemned and Muslim hatred for Jews, which stems from the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, Gutman said. He also argued that an Israeli-Palestinian peace treaty will significantly diminish Muslim anti-Semitism.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4156355,00.html


What part exactly do you not comprehend?


There is no distinction between "traditional antisemitism" and
"nouveau riche antisemitism". It is all antisemitism.

Peace treaties never diminished Muslim antisemitism, German
antisemitism or Russian antisemitism. For example ceding the
Gaza strip with peace agreements did not diminish Muslim
antisemitism at all. In fact, if anything Muslim antisemitism
simply got more open and virulent after the Gaza agreements
ultimately leading to Hamastan in Gaza.

So that point of view is just nonsense - it is backwards.

Peace agreements do not lead to reduced antisemitism!
Reduced antisemitism leads to peace agreements!!

whoa

laugh
Here we go again, anyone who criticizes Isreal is anti semitic.

Even when they are wrong and wasteing american tax payer money no one dare speak out lest they be labled anti- semite.

I dont think I would realy care if not for the fact america has to borrow the money we (give) to Isreal all the while they spy on us and commit human rights abuses in Palastine.


Conrad_73's photo
Tue 12/06/11 02:52 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 12/06/11 03:14 AM






funny,you all hollering about Propaganda,while cranking out one Judeophobic Thread after another!


Mr. Conrad all I have posted is what a member of our government has stated.

If you find something innacurate please feel free to be specefic and use logic and source information.

Your comments are becomeing more and more absurd.


The point that was made is that although the topic of this thread
is how Jew-hatred is caused by the Palestinian conflict EXACTLY
THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.

The conflict is caused by Jew-hatred. This is why the WW2 pics are
shown - to show that the Jew-hate PRECEDED the Palestinian conflict
in the region (although if of course goes back many centuries
even before that.

This shows how the inane idea that Jews brought this on themselves
is a ridiculous argument like blaming blacks for bringing lynching
upon themselves for example.

This is what was stated.

A distinction should be made between traditional anti-Semitism, which should be condemned and Muslim hatred for Jews, which stems from the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, Gutman said. He also argued that an Israeli-Palestinian peace treaty will significantly diminish Muslim anti-Semitism.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4156355,00.html


What part exactly do you not comprehend?


There is no distinction between "traditional antisemitism" and
"nouveau riche antisemitism". It is all antisemitism.

Peace treaties never diminished Muslim antisemitism, German
antisemitism or Russian antisemitism. For example ceding the
Gaza strip with peace agreements did not diminish Muslim
antisemitism at all. In fact, if anything Muslim antisemitism
simply got more open and virulent after the Gaza agreements
ultimately leading to Hamastan in Gaza.

So that point of view is just nonsense - it is backwards.

Peace agreements do not lead to reduced antisemitism!
Reduced antisemitism leads to peace agreements!!

whoa

laugh
Here we go again, anyone who criticizes Isreal is anti semitic.

Even when they are wrong and wasteing american tax payer money no one dare speak out lest they be labled anti- semite.

I dont think I would realy care if not for the fact america has to borrow the money we (give) to Isreal all the while they spy on us and commit human rights abuses in Palastine.


KAOS is doing all that!

Biggest False Flag Operation in the History of The Planet!
It's so False,it ain't even happening!
Now how is that for a False Flag Operation?
Damn they good!


Besides,the Palestinians are doing very well on their own concerning Humanrights-Abuses!

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 12/06/11 02:54 AM
Some people really have a Hardey for Israel!
Sheeeeeeesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!slaphead

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 12/06/11 08:03 AM


Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 12/06/11 12:59 PM



Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!
I SEE the propaganda has you hook line and sinker. I will do my best to offer up some counter programing, however time is short today much to do.

What quickly comes to my mind is all the betrayals Israel has done to its greatest benifactor the US.

From spying and false flag events all the while takeing our hard earned tax money only to be used to loby our congress for even more money.

While this country sinks into the third world why must we support any other people besides our own?

Its absurd.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 12/06/11 01:02 PM




Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!
I SEE the propaganda has you hook line and sinker. I will do my best to offer up some counter programing, however time is short today much to do.

What quickly comes to my mind is all the betrayals Israel has done to its greatest benifactor the US.

From spying and false flag events all the while takeing our hard earned tax money only to be used to loby our congress for even more money.

While this country sinks into the third world why must we support any other people besides our own?

Its absurd.
you said it!
Extremely absurd to blame all of the World's ills on Israel!

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 12/06/11 01:05 PM





Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!
I SEE the propaganda has you hook line and sinker. I will do my best to offer up some counter programing, however time is short today much to do.

What quickly comes to my mind is all the betrayals Israel has done to its greatest benifactor the US.

From spying and false flag events all the while takeing our hard earned tax money only to be used to loby our congress for even more money.

While this country sinks into the third world why must we support any other people besides our own?

Its absurd.
you said it!
Extremely absurd to blame all of the World's ills on Israel!
PLease sty on topic mr Conrad (you can do this)

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 12/06/11 01:06 PM






Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!
I SEE the propaganda has you hook line and sinker. I will do my best to offer up some counter programing, however time is short today much to do.

What quickly comes to my mind is all the betrayals Israel has done to its greatest benifactor the US.

From spying and false flag events all the while takeing our hard earned tax money only to be used to loby our congress for even more money.

While this country sinks into the third world why must we support any other people besides our own?

Its absurd.
you said it!
Extremely absurd to blame all of the World's ills on Israel!
PLease sty on topic mr Conrad (you can do this)
But I am!

no photo
Tue 12/06/11 01:06 PM




Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!
I SEE the propaganda has you hook line and sinker. I will do my best to offer up some counter programing, however time is short today much to do.

What quickly comes to my mind is all the betrayals Israel has done to its greatest benifactor the US.

From spying and false flag events all the while takeing our hard earned tax money only to be used to loby our congress for even more money.

While this country sinks into the third world why must we support any other people besides our own?

Its absurd.


It's even more absurd for Israel to fund the Palestinian Authority who commits terror against it!


Bestinshow's photo
Tue 12/06/11 01:07 PM
Edited by Bestinshow on Tue 12/06/11 01:08 PM





Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!
I SEE the propaganda has you hook line and sinker. I will do my best to offer up some counter programing, however time is short today much to do.

What quickly comes to my mind is all the betrayals Israel has done to its greatest benifactor the US.

From spying and false flag events all the while takeing our hard earned tax money only to be used to loby our congress for even more money.

While this country sinks into the third world why must we support any other people besides our own?

Its absurd.


It's even more absurd for Israel to fund the Palestinian Authority who commits terror against it!


Its probably our money that we borrowed from China or stole from grandmas social security.

I gota run going out for some yummy Chinease food, how ironic is that?

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 12/06/11 01:10 PM






Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!
I SEE the propaganda has you hook line and sinker. I will do my best to offer up some counter programing, however time is short today much to do.

What quickly comes to my mind is all the betrayals Israel has done to its greatest benifactor the US.

From spying and false flag events all the while takeing our hard earned tax money only to be used to loby our congress for even more money.

While this country sinks into the third world why must we support any other people besides our own?

Its absurd.


It's even more absurd for Israel to fund the Palestinian Authority who commits terror against it!


Its probably our money that we borrowed from China or stole from grandmas social security.

I gota run going out for some yummy Chinease food, how ironic is that?
Have a good look at the Meat!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laughing:

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 12/06/11 01:13 PM







Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!
I SEE the propaganda has you hook line and sinker. I will do my best to offer up some counter programing, however time is short today much to do.

What quickly comes to my mind is all the betrayals Israel has done to its greatest benifactor the US.

From spying and false flag events all the while takeing our hard earned tax money only to be used to loby our congress for even more money.

While this country sinks into the third world why must we support any other people besides our own?

Its absurd.


It's even more absurd for Israel to fund the Palestinian Authority who commits terror against it!


Its probably our money that we borrowed from China or stole from grandmas social security.

I gota run going out for some yummy Chinease food, how ironic is that?
Have a good look at the Meat!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laughing:
Its gota be better than a Mcrib.

Or your girlfriend's yoga mat, we suppose. We doubt many of you beautiful, lithe creatures are rushing to the Golden Arches immediately after doing your down dogs and such. In a Time Magazine report yesterday, the thin glossy's Healthland section explained some of the sandwich's more mysterious ingredients like: azodicarbonamide, ammonium sulfate and polysorbate 80. Sure, any ingredient that ends in a number isn't exactly appetizing, but it's the azodicarbonamide that is raising the most flags here: the flour-bleaching agent used in the McRib bun, "is most commonly used in the manufacture of foamed plastics like in gym mats and the soles of shoes".

Time goes on to point out that azodicarbonamide is actually banned from food production in Europe and Australia. England identified it as a compound that could potentially lead to asthma. So, Supervisor Mar, how about we ban that stuff?

Given the organic-leaning attitudes of San Francisco yogis and widely available organic rubber mats, we actually wouldn't be too surprised to learn that the city's yoga mats contain fewer chemicals designed to kill you than a corn syrup-slathered to-go item, now that we think about it.
http://sfist.com/2011/10/28/your_mcrib_sandwich_contains_the_sa.php

AndyBgood's photo
Thu 12/08/11 12:42 AM




Ever think the growing hate is due to growing numbers of Islamics invading that country? There has been a huge influx of Islamics in Europe and they have been stirring up all kinds of Shitte! An Anti-Emite is an Anti-Semite and people just have to hate something. Palestine is an excuse. How about what happened to Tibet? Why are these same shittekissers not saying anything about what happened to the Tibetan people? It doesn't matter because most of them were Buddhists? What if they were Islamic? Bet China would never hear the end of it!

This story is a load of steaming poo! There is no mention of the cross section of people polled to get this information. On top of that Europe is so full of itself. They and the UN breed most of the hatred that infest this world. Why is it the puppet masters we all revile live there?? As long as people hate Israel no one can focus on them!

I am not attacking the OP. Please don't take this statement that way. What I am saying is that stories like this do not give any real information pertinent to the cause and effect. How much does Israel have to give towards peace to get Palestine to stop allowing rockets and Artillery to be fired on Israel from Palestine?

Because of Palestine's CONSTANT backpedaling on the peace process there, the constant attacks, and harboring of hostile religious zealots hell bent on their holy war against everyone else Palestine can suck it. I want to see them end the attacks and give up the militants that attack Israel and Americans and other Westerners. It is time for Palestine to make a peace offering that is more substantial than hollow and empty promises! I am not pissed off at the Palestinian people caught in the middle of this, I am offended by their leadership and their leadership sets the tone for whether or not they deserve any consideration. Their actions have spoken louder than words. Israel just coughed up over 1000 KNOWN militants to Palestine for ONE captured Israeli soldier. Then Palestine commences attacking Israel with Rockets again??? Please tell me I am missing something here!
Your missing that you only get one side of the story.
Realy the most objective writeing you will find is from Noam Chomsky


Justice for Palestine?
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom and Justin Podur
ZNet, March 30, 2004
. 1. What do you see as the best solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict?

It depends what time frame we have in mind. In the short term, the only feasible and minimally decent solution is along the lines of the international consensus that the US has unilaterally blocked for the last 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border (green line), with "minor and mutual adjustments," in the terms of official US policy, though not actual policy after 1971. By now, US-backed Israeli settlement and infrastructure projects change the import of "minor." Nevertheless, several programs of basically that nature are on the table, the most prominent being the Geneva Accords, formally presented in Geneva in December, which gives a detailed program for a 1-1 land swap and other aspects of a settlement, and is about as good as is likely to be achieved -- and could be achieved if the US government would back it, which is of course the one issue that we can hope to influence, hence the most important for us. So far, the US has refused to do so. "The United States conspicuously was not among the governments sending a message of support," the New York Times reported in a (generally disparaging) news story on the December 1 meetings in Geneva where the Accords were presented.


http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20040330.htm



The real problem is that England was allowed to apportion borders in the area and look at what happened! Iraq is a prime example. You cannot cram Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds within a "Region, call it a country, and expect three peoples with conflicting ideals and animosity towards one another and expect them to cohabitate peacefully. Israel had Palestine SHOVED on them and Palestine was a split nation with Israel having some coastline in between. The people living in Palestine are being duped as we are with people trying to make villians of Israel at every turn. This manages to make Israel look more innocent wehen they are not. Again Israel though has made huge concessions in the name fo peace and time and time again attacks come from Palestine. Ever since the Saini was given bacvk to Egypt things between them have been very quiet considering. Now with Egypt being Pro-Islam again it is onely a matter of time before Israel has to get into it with them again. Now add Iran to the picture.

Judeaism does not preach Holy War. Neitehr does any other religion except Islam. The whole issue is smoke and mirrors! I understsnt people are suffering but what are they doing to end it? Get pissed off at Israel and America? They make their own countries into toilets! It isn't us or the Jews. That is the price for selling out to God and Money! The Anti Semitism all these years has made Israel into the dysfunctional neighbors they are and I don't blame them. If I was surrounded by hostile, beligerant a$$holes trying to wipe me out I would be paranoid too!
I SEE the propaganda has you hook line and sinker. I will do my best to offer up some counter programing, however time is short today much to do.

What quickly comes to my mind is all the betrayals Israel has done to its greatest benifactor the US.

From spying and false flag events all the while takeing our hard earned tax money only to be used to loby our congress for even more money.

While this country sinks into the third world why must we support any other people besides our own?

Its absurd.


Don't you ever get the feeling that you are the one being duped by propaganda? Everyone loves martyrs. Palestine hurls rockets and artillery fire at Israel "in the name of peace' huh? Iran doesn't pipeline weapons to Hamas, and we are the good guys, I mean the bad guys?

Doesn't the Phrase, the person preaching loudest about a crime is usually the criminal? Take the founder of MADD for example... Busted for DUI? Come on. There is a lot more to this than even you are admitting. Palestine didn't exist until AFTER WWII. Just like Israel. Difference is that Israel had to take their home back, England just gave land away! Everyone has been hating on Jews. Why is it the ones who preach actual hate gain people's tolerance and acceptance when they should gather only scorn? Islam is the enemy more so than Israel.

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Thu 12/08/11 04:09 AM



Its probably our money that we borrowed from China or stole from grandmas social security.

I gota run going out for some yummy Chinease food, how ironic is that?





Watch out for the MSG!!!!


REACTIONS TO FREE GLUTAMIC ACID IN SENSITIVE PEOPLE

Cardiac

Arrhythmias

Extreme rise or drop in blood pressure

Rapid heartbeat (tachycardia)

Angina

Circulatory

Swelling Muscular

Flu-like achiness

Joint pain

Stiffness

Neurological

Depression

Dizziness, Light-headedness, Loss of balance

Disorientation, Mental confusion

Anxiety, Panic attacks

Hyperactivity, Behavioral problems in children

Lethargy, Sleepiness, Insomnia

Migraine headache

Numbness or paralysis

Seizures

Sciatica

Slurred speech

Gastrointestinal

Diarrhea

Nausea/vomiting

Stomach cramps

Irritable bowel

Bloating

Respiratory

Asthma, Shortness of breath

Chest pain, Tightness

Runny nose, Sneezing

Skin

Hives or rash

Mouth lesions

Temporary tightness or partial paralysis (numbness or tingling) of the skin Flushing Extreme dryness of the mouth

Urological

Swelling of prostate Nocturia

Visual Blurred vision Difficulty focusing





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Thu 12/08/11 04:42 AM
Edited by 5apphire on Thu 12/08/11 04:44 AM





Watch out for the MSG!!!!


REACTIONS TO FREE GLUTAMIC ACID IN SENSITIVE PEOPLE

Cardiac

Arrhythmias

Extreme rise or drop in blood pressure

Rapid heartbeat (tachycardia)

Angina

Circulatory

Swelling Muscular

Flu-like achiness

Joint pain

Stiffness

Neurological

Depression

Dizziness, Light-headedness, Loss of balance

Disorientation, Mental confusion

Anxiety, Panic attacks

Hyperactivity, Behavioral problems in children

Lethargy, Sleepiness, Insomnia

Migraine headache

Numbness or paralysis

Seizures

Sciatica

Slurred speech

Gastrointestinal

Diarrhea

Nausea/vomiting

Stomach cramps

Irritable bowel

Bloating

Respiratory

Asthma, Shortness of breath

Chest pain, Tightness

Runny nose, Sneezing

Skin

Hives or rash

Mouth lesions

Temporary tightness or partial paralysis (numbness or tingling) of the skin Flushing Extreme dryness of the mouth

Urological

Swelling of prostate Nocturia

Visual Blurred vision Difficulty focusing







waving

There are a few missing ones:

Inability/unwilling to grasp simple facts

Paranoia

Gullibility to false propaganda

Hmmm I am sure there may be one or two more!


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Thu 12/08/11 04:55 AM
Good afternoon !!waving
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