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Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust Thanks for finally saying that. Good to know how you actually think. |
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Israel Like Northern Ireland's A Protestant State For A Protestant People Was not Thought Through. It doesn't work...It shouldn't work In Northern Ireland 40% of the population were supposed to accept what was given rather than a right... It was flawed from the outset, not thought through and a lot of people died. There is many a similarity between Palestine and Northern Ireland. They have one major thing in common......The Last Empire Created both catastrophes. The US and The UK have a moral duty to rectify the injustice. We are at peace here in Northern Ireland but the healing will take many more years. To those of you who advocate war instead of diplomacy.....Think Again. In the four weeks I have been here on Mingle, and with your posts elsewhere which I have pointed out the errors of, you still refuse to accept historical facts, which just goes to show your true feelings on it all! (not that I or most on here had any doubts of anyway). Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust 
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Edited by
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Israel Like Northern Ireland's A Protestant State For A Protestant People Was not Thought Through. It doesn't work...It shouldn't work In Northern Ireland 40% of the population were supposed to accept what was given rather than a right... It was flawed from the outset, not thought through and a lot of people died. There is many a similarity between Palestine and Northern Ireland. They have one major thing in common......The Last Empire Created both catastrophes. The US and The UK have a moral duty to rectify the injustice. We are at peace here in Northern Ireland but the healing will take many more years. To those of you who advocate war instead of diplomacy.....Think Again. In the four weeks I have been here on Mingle, and with your posts elsewhere which I have pointed out the errors of, you still refuse to accept historical facts, which just goes to show your true feelings on it all! (not that I or most on here had any doubts of anyway). Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust On the contrary - the arabs had their chance and they lost it. The arabs have only wanted a state since 1967 - they didn't ask for their own state before then. They have no history to the land of Israel. There never has been a so-called palestinian people, they have never had a country, a currency, a parliament, etc., etc., etc. THey are make-believe and they even admit that. They want what they will never have and are not entitled to have. ____________________________ Read, and digest: The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism. Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen |
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Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust Thanks for finally saying that. Good to know how you actually think. |
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Jew hate = bad Muslim hate = good? I have noticed that all those complaining about the alleged jew bashing have all gathered together on the drone thread. No one complains about the gung-ho attitude towards Islam and Muslim We are all supposed to be equal in the eyes of........ Birds of a feather....... Anyone who wants peace should not advocate war The drone gang are angry that Obama is being diplomatic. Everyone who has said something to you about your jew bashing is now bashing muslims? Gotta love grouping everyone together. That is a personal attack...should report but an apology will suffice I don't think that is a road you want to go down.. Why Not...Please tell me more because whining like a little schoolgirl and threatening to tell your mommy that the bad girl called you a name is sissified and not becoming of an alleged adult forum.. you have no problems calling people xenophobic with no proof to back it up.. I am just saying that when people covered in gas play with fire expect you might get burned.. |
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Want to know how the Palestinians really feel about who is
persecuting them? Watch these videos. Their response to the conflict is that the problems they are experiencing are primarily first and foremost a result of the policies of their own terrorist government! Girl from Gaza on Hamas... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLIdxF-GHWw Former head of Hamas youth... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLjwe2b40YA&feature=related Hamas terrorist policies have spawned nothing but misery and despair for innocent Gazans. And the worst part is that Hamas rejoices in their "martyrdom" celebrates their deaths and forces such suffering on the population against their will. This is the real tragedy of the situation in Gaza... |
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Jew hate = bad Muslim hate = good? I have noticed that all those complaining about the alleged jew bashing have all gathered together on the drone thread. No one complains about the gung-ho attitude towards Islam and Muslim We are all supposed to be equal in the eyes of........ Birds of a feather....... Anyone who wants peace should not advocate war The drone gang are angry that Obama is being diplomatic. Everyone who has said something to you about your jew bashing is now bashing muslims? Gotta love grouping everyone together. That is a personal attack...should report but an apology will suffice I don't think that is a road you want to go down.. Why Not...Please tell me more because whining like a little schoolgirl and threatening to tell your mommy that the bad girl called you a name is sissified and not becoming of an alleged adult forum.. you have no problems calling people xenophobic with no proof to back it up.. I am just saying that when people covered in gas play with fire expect you might get burned.. 
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Israel Like Northern Ireland's A Protestant State For A Protestant People Was not Thought Through. It doesn't work...It shouldn't work In Northern Ireland 40% of the population were supposed to accept what was given rather than a right... It was flawed from the outset, not thought through and a lot of people died. There is many a similarity between Palestine and Northern Ireland. They have one major thing in common......The Last Empire Created both catastrophes. The US and The UK have a moral duty to rectify the injustice. We are at peace here in Northern Ireland but the healing will take many more years. To those of you who advocate war instead of diplomacy.....Think Again. In the four weeks I have been here on Mingle, and with your posts elsewhere which I have pointed out the errors of, you still refuse to accept historical facts, which just goes to show your true feelings on it all! (not that I or most on here had any doubts of anyway). Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust Interesting! So for you the truth is subjective to morals? Oh my! So you would say a man like Jeffrey Dahlmer was a nice guy and completely misunderstood because during the trial he was such a nice meek person even though over a dozen bodies were uncovered under his house? You do know that Israel had a claim to the area THOUSANDS of years before there were any real Arabs who were doing anything more than wandering around? You are aware the are was Ottoman held pre-WWII? You are aware that Genocide against the Jews has been going on for longer than Europe had any written history? Egypt tried, Moors tried, Ottomans, hell, even the Israelis had their era of blood like the age of Judges. How bout them Caananites? Palestine is a UN contrivance you are aware like Iran and Iraq. If Palestine was so important then how about Tibet? Does Tibet count? Does Tibet have any rights to exist as a people? Oh but since China drove them out of lands they occupied for thousands of years I guess it doesn't matter because Israel is full of Evil Jews? Scandalous I say! |
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Israel Like Northern Ireland's A Protestant State For A Protestant People Was not Thought Through. It doesn't work...It shouldn't work In Northern Ireland 40% of the population were supposed to accept what was given rather than a right... It was flawed from the outset, not thought through and a lot of people died. There is many a similarity between Palestine and Northern Ireland. They have one major thing in common......The Last Empire Created both catastrophes. The US and The UK have a moral duty to rectify the injustice. We are at peace here in Northern Ireland but the healing will take many more years. To those of you who advocate war instead of diplomacy.....Think Again. In the four weeks I have been here on Mingle, and with your posts elsewhere which I have pointed out the errors of, you still refuse to accept historical facts, which just goes to show your true feelings on it all! (not that I or most on here had any doubts of anyway). Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust Interesting! So for you the truth is subjective to morals? Oh my! So you would say a man like Jeffrey Dahlmer was a nice guy and completely misunderstood because during the trial he was such a nice meek person even though over a dozen bodies were uncovered under his house? You do know that Israel had a claim to the area THOUSANDS of years before there were any real Arabs who were doing anything more than wandering around? You are aware the are was Ottoman held pre-WWII? You are aware that Genocide against the Jews has been going on for longer than Europe had any written history? Egypt tried, Moors tried, Ottomans, hell, even the Israelis had their era of blood like the age of Judges. How bout them Caananites? Palestine is a UN contrivance you are aware like Iran and Iraq. If Palestine was so important then how about Tibet? Does Tibet count? Does Tibet have any rights to exist as a people? Oh but since China drove them out of lands they occupied for thousands of years I guess it doesn't matter because Israel is full of Evil Jews? Scandalous I say! Israel of all the peoples of the world should never use nazi tactics they have lost the moral high ground to many. If a person comments on it your labled an anti-semite. These are strange times. |
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SEIU knows a lot about those Tactics I bet!
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Israel Like Northern Ireland's A Protestant State For A Protestant People Was not Thought Through. It doesn't work...It shouldn't work In Northern Ireland 40% of the population were supposed to accept what was given rather than a right... It was flawed from the outset, not thought through and a lot of people died. There is many a similarity between Palestine and Northern Ireland. They have one major thing in common......The Last Empire Created both catastrophes. The US and The UK have a moral duty to rectify the injustice. We are at peace here in Northern Ireland but the healing will take many more years. To those of you who advocate war instead of diplomacy.....Think Again In the four weeks I have been here on Mingle, and with your posts elsewhere which I have pointed out the errors of, you still refuse to accept historical facts, which just goes to show your true feelings on it all! (not that I or most on here had any doubts of anyway). Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust Interesting! So for you the truth is subjective to morals? Oh my! So you would say a man like Jeffrey Dahlmer was a nice guy and completely misunderstood because during the trial he was such a nice meek person even though over a dozen bodies were uncovered under his house? You do know that Israel had a claim to the area THOUSANDS of years before there were any real Arabs who were doing anything more than wandering around? You are aware the are was Ottoman held pre-WWII? You are aware that Genocide against the Jews has been going on for longer than Europe had any written history? Egypt tried, Moors tried, Ottomans, hell, even the Israelis had their era of blood like the age of Judges. How bout them Caananites? Palestine is a UN contrivance you are aware like Iran and Iraq. If Palestine was so important then how about Tibet? Does Tibet count? Does Tibet have any rights to exist as a people? Oh but since China drove them out of lands they occupied for thousands of years I guess it doesn't matter because Israel is full of Evil Jews? Scandalous I say! Israel of all the peoples of the world should never use nazi tactics they have lost the moral high ground to many. If a person comments on it your labled an anti-semite. These are strange times. If by "comments" you mean Israel and Jew bashing, then yes, they would be anti-Semitic. |
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Israel Like Northern Ireland's A Protestant State For A Protestant People Was not Thought Through. It doesn't work...It shouldn't work In Northern Ireland 40% of the population were supposed to accept what was given rather than a right... It was flawed from the outset, not thought through and a lot of people died. There is many a similarity between Palestine and Northern Ireland. They have one major thing in common......The Last Empire Created both catastrophes. The US and The UK have a moral duty to rectify the injustice. We are at peace here in Northern Ireland but the healing will take many more years. To those of you who advocate war instead of diplomacy.....Think Again In the four weeks I have been here on Mingle, and with your posts elsewhere which I have pointed out the errors of, you still refuse to accept historical facts, which just goes to show your true feelings on it all! (not that I or most on here had any doubts of anyway). Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust Interesting! So for you the truth is subjective to morals? Oh my! So you would say a man like Jeffrey Dahlmer was a nice guy and completely misunderstood because during the trial he was such a nice meek person even though over a dozen bodies were uncovered under his house? You do know that Israel had a claim to the area THOUSANDS of years before there were any real Arabs who were doing anything more than wandering around? You are aware the are was Ottoman held pre-WWII? You are aware that Genocide against the Jews has been going on for longer than Europe had any written history? Egypt tried, Moors tried, Ottomans, hell, even the Israelis had their era of blood like the age of Judges. How bout them Caananites? Palestine is a UN contrivance you are aware like Iran and Iraq. If Palestine was so important then how about Tibet? Does Tibet count? Does Tibet have any rights to exist as a people? Oh but since China drove them out of lands they occupied for thousands of years I guess it doesn't matter because Israel is full of Evil Jews? Scandalous I say! Israel of all the peoples of the world should never use nazi tactics they have lost the moral high ground to many. If a person comments on it your labled an anti-semite. These are strange times. If by "comments" you mean Israel and Jew bashing, then yes, they would be anti-Semitic. If you can find anything that isnt accurate or simply a hate speach feel free to inform them or me as I am being verry carefull just to put out the other side of the story. |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Wed 12/14/11 08:12 PM
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The whole premise of this thread is an attempt to wrongly blame the
Jewish Israeli victims of antisemitic discrimination for the bigotry they encounter. This is why people see your points of view as antisemitic. You try to blame the Jews for the wars against them when it is clear that whenever Hamas and Hezbollah lay down their weapons the conflict ceases. I have pointed out that antisemitism predated the creation of the modern state of Israel and that violent anti-jewish riots, massacres, discrimination of all sorts, force conversions and genocide based solely on their religious beliefs have been going on for hundreds of years. So obviously virulant antisemitism was not created by the current mideast conflict. Jew-hate was here long before there was even such a made up idea of non-jewish palestinians. The conflict itself just like the pogroms in Russian, the Spanish Inquisition and the expulsion of jews from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt etc. is happening because of antisemitic prejudice. The actions of Jews and Israelis actually have less to do with the conflict than the actions of Hamas and Hezbollah as described by the former head of Hamas youth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLjwe2b40YA&feature=related Warfare does not cause antisemitism. Antisemitism causes warfare as evidenced by the many anti-jewish wars in the past. The latest war against Israel and the Jews is no different. |
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Israel Like Northern Ireland's A Protestant State For A Protestant People Was not Thought Through. It doesn't work...It shouldn't work In Northern Ireland 40% of the population were supposed to accept what was given rather than a right... It was flawed from the outset, not thought through and a lot of people died. There is many a similarity between Palestine and Northern Ireland. They have one major thing in common......The Last Empire Created both catastrophes. The US and The UK have a moral duty to rectify the injustice. We are at peace here in Northern Ireland but the healing will take many more years. To those of you who advocate war instead of diplomacy.....Think Again In the four weeks I have been here on Mingle, and with your posts elsewhere which I have pointed out the errors of, you still refuse to accept historical facts, which just goes to show your true feelings on it all! (not that I or most on here had any doubts of anyway). Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust Interesting! So for you the truth is subjective to morals? Oh my! So you would say a man like Jeffrey Dahlmer was a nice guy and completely misunderstood because during the trial he was such a nice meek person even though over a dozen bodies were uncovered under his house? You do know that Israel had a claim to the area THOUSANDS of years before there were any real Arabs who were doing anything more than wandering around? You are aware the are was Ottoman held pre-WWII? You are aware that Genocide against the Jews has been going on for longer than Europe had any written history? Egypt tried, Moors tried, Ottomans, hell, even the Israelis had their era of blood like the age of Judges. How bout them Caananites? Palestine is a UN contrivance you are aware like Iran and Iraq. If Palestine was so important then how about Tibet? Does Tibet count? Does Tibet have any rights to exist as a people? Oh but since China drove them out of lands they occupied for thousands of years I guess it doesn't matter because Israel is full of Evil Jews? Scandalous I say! Israel of all the peoples of the world should never use nazi tactics they have lost the moral high ground to many. If a person comments on it your labled an anti-semite. These are strange times. If by "comments" you mean Israel and Jew bashing, then yes, they would be anti-Semitic. If you can find anything that isnt accurate or simply a hate speach feel free to inform them or me as I am being verry carefull just to put out the other side of the story. This thread is full of Israel bashing. |
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I used to oppose Israeli occupation of Palestine until time and time again attacks were staged from Palestine. Then comes the issue of Islam. I don't hate Islamic people. I hate the religion. Israel makes large and huge concessions in the name of peace and then the Palestinians spit on them and begin attacks. The Palestinian issue is a puppet issue to divert attention to the real problem, Iran!
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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I used to oppose Israeli occupation of Palestine until time and time again attacks were staged from Palestine. Then comes the issue of Islam. I don't hate Islamic people. I hate the religion. Israel makes large and huge concessions in the name of peace and then the Palestinians spit on them and begin attacks. The Palestinian issue is a puppet issue to divert attention to the real problem, Iran! Yes, Iran is such a big deal.  Why can't you people just butt out of foreigners' petty fights? (The Iranians aren't arabs, FYI. They're Persian) The mideasterners have been at war with each other for centuries. It's not going to stop because westerners put Palestinians in a concentration camp or supply the Israeli regime with money and weapons with which to torture Palestinians. All this meddling is inevitably going to result in blowback-not to mention a vast transfer of wealth from poor people here to dictators over there under the guise of "foreign aid" and "foreign policy". If you want to police the world, suit up and do it. Quit being an armchair chickenhawk. |
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Edited by
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The trouble is that most people are against Israel because they don't know the facts of history that the land was designated for the Jewish people by Law in 1922 25 years before the State of Israel became independant.
However that Law was illegally broken when part of the land was then offered to the arabs. The arabs passed up on that opportunity, refused the land, and attacked the newly established State and apart from Jordan and Egypt Israel is still in a state of War with the other countries that surround it. Jews don't hate the Islamic people. Jews hate the hate that eminate from them. There is no need to live in hate. Israel is tiny and people can look on a map to see how tiny it is. I have so much proof on my youtube channel Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/user/userfriendly2011/videos?view=pl - many clips - straight from the 'horses' mouths of how they want to destroy the, as they call it, "illegal" state of the Jews. Even the little children singing such songs - the children are being brought up to hate as soon as they start to utter their first sentences. Surveys done on Israeli arabs have proven that they are happy living in the State of Israel and several months ago the Israeli arabs even sent a petition to the Israeli Parliament asking them not to give up East Jerusalem to arab control. There is no apartheid, contrary to what some people think, there is complete freedom for them, they have arab members of Parliament, there are arab doctors in hospitals, there are even arab members in the Israeli military!!! There is no need to fear if a person is homosexual or lesbian in Israel - no-one is going to jail that person because of their sexual orientation. Israeli hospitals even treat wounded terrorists because the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Gaza don't have the facilities - not through lack of funds donated to them - but because they spend those funds unwisely to say the least on weaponry. I could go on and on..... but I won't for now. However I will be back because I for one cannot let these slurs against the Jews and against Israel go unanswered from people of various forums who do not have a clue about the situation, but as we have seen on Mingle in particular, from people who say they do not care about historical or present facts and they simply hate the "Zionist State." |
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Israel Like Northern Ireland's A Protestant State For A Protestant People Was not Thought Through. It doesn't work...It shouldn't work In Northern Ireland 40% of the population were supposed to accept what was given rather than a right... It was flawed from the outset, not thought through and a lot of people died. There is many a similarity between Palestine and Northern Ireland. They have one major thing in common......The Last Empire Created both catastrophes. The US and The UK have a moral duty to rectify the injustice. We are at peace here in Northern Ireland but the healing will take many more years. To those of you who advocate war instead of diplomacy.....Think Again. In the four weeks I have been here on Mingle, and with your posts elsewhere which I have pointed out the errors of, you still refuse to accept historical facts, which just goes to show your true feelings on it all! (not that I or most on here had any doubts of anyway). Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust Interesting! So for you the truth is subjective to morals? Oh my! So you would say a man like Jeffrey Dahlmer was a nice guy and completely misunderstood because during the trial he was such a nice meek person even though over a dozen bodies were uncovered under his house? You do know that Israel had a claim to the area THOUSANDS of years before there were any real Arabs who were doing anything more than wandering around? You are aware the are was Ottoman held pre-WWII? You are aware that Genocide against the Jews has been going on for longer than Europe had any written history? Egypt tried, Moors tried, Ottomans, hell, even the Israelis had their era of blood like the age of Judges. How bout them Caananites? Palestine is a UN contrivance you are aware like Iran and Iraq. If Palestine was so important then how about Tibet? Does Tibet count? Does Tibet have any rights to exist as a people? Oh but since China drove them out of lands they occupied for thousands of years I guess it doesn't matter because Israel is full of Evil Jews? Scandalous I say! Israel of all the peoples of the world should never use nazi tactics they have lost the moral high ground to many. If a person comments on it your labled an anti-semite. These are strange times. 
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Israel Like Northern Ireland's A Protestant State For A Protestant People Was not Thought Through. It doesn't work...It shouldn't work In Northern Ireland 40% of the population were supposed to accept what was given rather than a right... It was flawed from the outset, not thought through and a lot of people died. There is many a similarity between Palestine and Northern Ireland. They have one major thing in common......The Last Empire Created both catastrophes. The US and The UK have a moral duty to rectify the injustice. We are at peace here in Northern Ireland but the healing will take many more years. To those of you who advocate war instead of diplomacy.....Think Again In the four weeks I have been here on Mingle, and with your posts elsewhere which I have pointed out the errors of, you still refuse to accept historical facts, which just goes to show your true feelings on it all! (not that I or most on here had any doubts of anyway). Screw historical facts...Palestine is an Injustice as was The Holocaust Interesting! So for you the truth is subjective to morals? Oh my! So you would say a man like Jeffrey Dahlmer was a nice guy and completely misunderstood because during the trial he was such a nice meek person even though over a dozen bodies were uncovered under his house? You do know that Israel had a claim to the area THOUSANDS of years before there were any real Arabs who were doing anything more than wandering around? You are aware the are was Ottoman held pre-WWII? You are aware that Genocide against the Jews has been going on for longer than Europe had any written history? Egypt tried, Moors tried, Ottomans, hell, even the Israelis had their era of blood like the age of Judges. How bout them Caananites? Palestine is a UN contrivance you are aware like Iran and Iraq. If Palestine was so important then how about Tibet? Does Tibet count? Does Tibet have any rights to exist as a people? Oh but since China drove them out of lands they occupied for thousands of years I guess it doesn't matter because Israel is full of Evil Jews? Scandalous I say! Israel of all the peoples of the world should never use nazi tactics they have lost the moral high ground to many. If a person comments on it your labled an anti-semite. These are strange times. If by "comments" you mean Israel and Jew bashing, then yes, they would be anti-Semitic. If you can find anything that isnt accurate or simply a hate speach feel free to inform them or me as I am being verry carefull just to put out the other side of the story. This thread is full of Israel bashing. |
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Edited by
singmesweet
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Please locate it. Your own words: Nothing to buy sir. The facts speak for themselves. anti-Semitism is at a verry high level and its not because people hate jews for being jews. Anti-Semitism is the charge that Israel flings at anyone who criticizes them. Its a real fraud and irony that Israel treats the Palastinians as Hitler treated Poland. I think most people once informed are revolted by what the state of Israel is doing. It is verry hard to change peoples conditioning being they are naturaly sympathetic to the Jewish cause, so its a real sad testement to Israels current leadership and the crimes they are commiting in the name of stopping terrorism. Not only are you bashing Israel and the use of "anti-semitism," you're bashing people who are sympathetic to Jews. |
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