I am just as lazy as you

But what I copy and paste I believe in.

Nice and easy does it.

It's not being lazy. It's that I find no point in looking at your anti-jew sites that you post bs from all the time.

On your own admission you do not check the links so how can you make a judgment.

I asked you if you were speaking for American Jews. You said you copied ad pasted it.

You always post stuff like that, so why bother looking at the links? It's all the same crap over and over.

Huh. The I love jews thread is gone already and yet several jew bashing threads stick around? Interesting.

How do you know its crap if you don't read it?

I think it is as bad or worse than threads attacking individual
mingle2 members! It multiple spammed topics the same people keep
posting over and over again anti-jewish and Israel bashing
propaganda attacking whole swaths of the membership.

I thought it was very weird that the thread was removed so fast. I wonder if someone reported it for some reason?

@ singme

I read and post.

You just comment and ask questions.

Simple...

Wouldn't commenting and asking questions be reading and posting here?

I post a few lines from an article and provide a link.

You comment on the few lines and consider you have read the article.

It seems you are more interested in me than reading

Israel has not "allowed" innocent people to be killed.
Terrorist groups are not tolerated in Israel or the U.S.

Not to say that there haven't been defensive wars.
But Israel has not allowed innocent people to be killed
Israel goes out of their way to warn civilians and always
has military targets who are firing at them before returning
fire.

When there have been mistakes, those responsible have been
vigorously prosecuted in Israel.

By contrast, Hamas holds celebrations and gives out candy when
innocent civilians are successfully killed.

and its easy for people to seperate a governments military from a government?


the israeli military has permitted and possibly committed innocent bloodshed in their past,,,,even if israeli 'commissions' may have later found them responsible


look up sabra and shatila and explain why those people should feel like they brought that upon themself or that they should trust and be happy living under israeli military?

I've heard of that...from the Wiki - these were not carried out by
the Israelis or with the consent of the Israelis. This was done by
a Christian militia in Lebanon. In subsequent investigations it was
determined that Israeli forces found out that a massacre was going
on but failed to intervene. Arguments were made that they did not
wish to jeopardize themselves by getting in between the two warring
Lebanese factions. Nevertheless the Israeli government found that
Ariel Sharon and other officers were indirectly responsible for not
interceding to try to limit the bloodshed.

From the Wiki:

The Sabra and Shatila massacre took place in the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian refugee camps in Beirut, Lebanon between September 16 and September 18, 1982, during the Lebanese civil war. Palestinian and Lebanese civilians were massacred in the camps by Christian Lebanese Phalangists while the camp was surrounded by the Israel Defense Force.

In 1982, an independent commission chaired by Sean MacBride concluded that the Israeli authorities or forces were, directly or indirectly, responsible.[4] The Israeli government established the Kahan Commission to investigate, and in early 1983 it found that Israeli military personnel were aware that a massacre was in progress without taking serious steps to stop it. Therefore it regarded Israel as having indirect responsibility. The commission held Ariel Sharon personally responsible for having disregarded the prospect of acts of bloodshed by the Phalangists against the population of the refugee camps and not preventing their entry.[5]

So this was not "allowed" by the Israelis and not condoned by them.
But they did investigate the events themselves and took indirect
responsibility even though it was the Christian Lebanese Phalangists
who perpetrated the attacks. Efforts were made to ensure such things
would not happen again and none have. So at least it was one of those
instances where the Israelis did not tolerate or condone such
killings but took action to prevent such attacks in the future when
this happened 30 years ago.

This is very different from Hamas massacres of innocent Israelis.

When Hamas succeeds in DIRECTLY killing innocent Israelis they throw
candy!

well I wasnt there so I cant confirm or deny the stories on either side

but I have talked to someone who was a child there during the time and who has stories of ISRAELI Soldiers killing and raping,,, and I have no reason to believe it wasnt possible and that those types of un reported, unofficial, non policy, atrocities could have contributed to how many palistinians feel about the israeli and their military

Don't believe everything you hear. There were very vigorous
inquiries by both Israelis and independent investigators but
despite the hysterical claims you may have heard no credible
evidence was ever found that any Israelis participated in the
massacres. If the Israelis had been directly involved there
would have been evidence for sure given that so many wanted to
blame the Israelis any way possible for the Phalangists attack.

Remember the Goldstone report? It was eventually repudiated by
the author (Goldstone) when he found out that the claims of
massacres against the Israelis were false rumors initiated by
members of Hamas who wished to effect anti-Israel and anti-Jewish
animosity with lies.

THE LAVON AFFAIR
IS HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF?
In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Arabs as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring.
Some of the spies were from Israel, while others were recruited from the local Jewish population. Israel responded to the scandal with claims in the media that there was no spy ring, that it was all a hoax perpetrated by "anti-Semites".


Honorable Chairman, members of the Knesset. The trial that started two days ago in Egypt against 13 Jews is disturbing everybody and brings about an emotional turmoil and deep bitterness in the country [Israel] and in the whole Jewish world. Indeed, it must cause concern and anxiety in the hearts of all justice-seeking people around the universe. The Committee for Foreign Affairs and Security has alreadv dealt and will further deal with this serious issue. But at this stage I feel obliged to make a short announcement. In my speech in the Knesset on November 15 1 said "The uncontrolled behavior of' Egypt . . . does not indicate . . . that its leadership . . . is seeking moderate approaches and peace. How far Egypt is from this spirit [of moderation and peace] can be learned from the plot woven in Alexandria, the show-trial which is being organized there against a group of Jews who became victims of false accusations of espionage, and who, it seems, are being threatened and tortured in order to extract from them confessions in imaginary crimes." This gloomy assumption was verified and was revealed to be a cruel and shocking fact, by the declaration of the accused Victorin Ninyo in the military court in Cairo that was published this morning. [According to this declaration] she was tortured during the interrogation which preceded the trial and by that torture they extracted from her false confessions to crimes which did not happen. The government of Israel strongly protests this practice, which revives in the Middle East the methods used by the Inquisition in the Middle Ages. The government of Israel strongly rejects the false accusations of the general Egyptian prosecution, which relegates to the Israeli authorities horrible deeds and diabolic conspiracies against the security and the international relations of Egypt. From this stand we have protested many times in the past persecution and false accusations of Jews in various countries. We see in the innocent Jews accused by the Egyptian authorities of such severe crimes, victims of vicious hostility to the State of Israel and the Jewish people. If their crime is being Zionist and devoted to Israel, millions of Jews around the world share this crime. We do not think that the rulers of Egypt should be interested in being responsible for shedding Jewish blood. We call upon all those who believe in peace, stability and human relations among nations to prevent fatal injustice.
But as the public trial progressed, it was evident that Israel had indeed been behind the bombing. Eventually, Israeli's Defense Minister Pinhas Lavon was brought down by the scandal, although it appears that he was himself the victim of a frame-up by the real authors of the bombing project, code named "Operation Susannah."

It is therefore a fact that Israel has a prior history of setting off bombs with the intent to blame Arabs for them.

This is not the only example of a "False Flag" operation designed to trick the United States into attacking Israel's enemies. According to Victor Ostrovsky, a Mossad defector now living in Canada, Ronald Reagan was tricked into bombing Libya by means of a radio transmitter smuggled into Tripoli by the Mossad, which broadcast messages designed to fool the United States into thinking Libya was about to launch a massive terror attack on the west. On the basis of this fake evidence, the US bombed Libya, killing Khadaffi's daughter.

The Jews of Iraq is a story by a Jewish writer revealing yet another false flag operation where Israelis used bombs and planted the blame on Arabs

More recently, Captain Ward Boston, who served as senior legal counsel for the Navy's Court of Inquiry into the Israeli attack on USS Liberty, has come forward to report that the Court of Inquiry was ORDERED to conclude that the attack was an accident by President Lyndon Johnson. In hindsight, given the use of unmarked aircraft and boats by Israel during the actual attack, it appears that Israel intended to sink the US ship and frame Egypt for the attack, tricking the US into the war against Egypt.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/