Topic: Women asking men out - question for the men
msharmony's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:32 AM



Oh, for goodness sake; are we all still in high school? If you are interested; ask the person out. Its not rocket science. All they can say is no. I hear people whining they want to be in a relationship; then take the damn risk!!. Who gives a damn who ask who first; just as long as the question is asked.



its not really about high school, its just preference

everyone has their own,,,:smile:


I think its childish. Why play the guessing game; life is too short to wait for the perfect circumstances or preferences.



ITs not a guessing game. In the end, it only happens if BOTH people are interested, so thats not a factor. I know someone is interested in me if they step up to talk to me and I also know they have the courage to step up.

If I step up to them, I may also find they are interested, but I dont know as quickly whether they have the character to step up.

ITs just a quicker way to discern a particular trait that interests me.

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Mon 11/07/11 11:33 AM


Speaking of balls... I've had men ask me out, then seem to need approval for anything after that. Especially planning a date. So, just because he asked me out, it did not mean he had balls.



thats what I mean about 'sharing' responsibility

I think because a guy takes initiative when its something important, and possibly, by extension, that I Will be important to them


planning a date may not be as important or they may want to not be overbearing,, that wouldnt bother me


I just dont want a guy that Im going to have to always explain my feelings to in a relationship, a certain ability to read body language is important to me,,,


There was no sharing anything, though. He basically said he didn't want to plan anything. So, your theory doesn't always work.

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Mon 11/07/11 11:34 AM

Oh, for goodness sake; are we all still in high school? If you are interested; ask the person out. Its not rocket science. All they can say is no. I hear people whining they want to be in a relationship; then take the damn risk!!. Who gives a damn who ask who first; just as long as the question is asked. Its a wonder anyone even gets together with all these stupid mind games.


:thumbsup:

navygirl's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:35 AM




Oh, for goodness sake; are we all still in high school? If you are interested; ask the person out. Its not rocket science. All they can say is no. I hear people whining they want to be in a relationship; then take the damn risk!!. Who gives a damn who ask who first; just as long as the question is asked.



its not really about high school, its just preference

everyone has their own,,,:smile:


I think its childish. Why play the guessing game; life is too short to wait for the perfect circumstances or preferences. Oh well, its a person's loss if they don't take the risk.


You havent carefully read the discussion. She will not be interested in someone who does not step up. Why would she initiate a relationship with someone she's not interested in.

You come off as intolerant here.


Nope not intolerant; I just think its foolish to not take the risk. I think its been said over and over that its not necessarily that a guy isn't interested but he could be shy, not sure of her intersts, or many other things. What have you got to lose?

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Mon 11/07/11 11:36 AM




Oh, for goodness sake; are we all still in high school? If you are interested; ask the person out. Its not rocket science. All they can say is no. I hear people whining they want to be in a relationship; then take the damn risk!!. Who gives a damn who ask who first; just as long as the question is asked.



its not really about high school, its just preference

everyone has their own,,,:smile:


I think its childish. Why play the guessing game; life is too short to wait for the perfect circumstances or preferences. Oh well, its a person's loss if they don't take the risk.


You havent carefully read the discussion. She will not be interested in someone who does not step up. Why would she initiate a relationship with someone she's not interested in.

You come off as intolerant here.


I don't see her as being intolerant. I actually agree with her for the most part.

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:37 AM



Speaking of balls... I've had men ask me out, then seem to need approval for anything after that. Especially planning a date. So, just because he asked me out, it did not mean he had balls.



thats what I mean about 'sharing' responsibility

I think because a guy takes initiative when its something important, and possibly, by extension, that I Will be important to them


planning a date may not be as important or they may want to not be overbearing,, that wouldnt bother me


I just dont want a guy that Im going to have to always explain my feelings to in a relationship, a certain ability to read body language is important to me,,,


There was no sharing anything, though. He basically said he didn't want to plan anything. So, your theory doesn't always work.



nothing always does

criminals dont always commit more crime, but that doesnt mean that someone who has been burned wouldnt have reason to make an attempt avoid that potential situation again

'fit' men are not always brave men, but that doesnt mean women wont generally feel safer with them than with 'unfit' men

its just preference, it doesnt truly reflect any type of absolutes because in life nothing really is absolute,,,

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:38 AM





Oh, for goodness sake; are we all still in high school? If you are interested; ask the person out. Its not rocket science. All they can say is no. I hear people whining they want to be in a relationship; then take the damn risk!!. Who gives a damn who ask who first; just as long as the question is asked.



its not really about high school, its just preference

everyone has their own,,,:smile:


I think its childish. Why play the guessing game; life is too short to wait for the perfect circumstances or preferences. Oh well, its a person's loss if they don't take the risk.


You havent carefully read the discussion. She will not be interested in someone who does not step up. Why would she initiate a relationship with someone she's not interested in.

You come off as intolerant here.


Nope not intolerant; I just think its foolish to not take the risk. I think its been said over and over that its not necessarily that a guy isn't interested but he could be shy, not sure of her intersts, or many other things. What have you got to lose?



I understand, and MANY MANY women are attracted to shy guys

the shy guy is just not my PREFERENCE though,,,

maximide's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:38 AM


well i might not necessary turn her down. What i wrote is based on a personal experience. I had a girl whom i was going to ask out but she was kinda forward (reasons i dont know) and asked me out first. I conscented but althrough our relationship she was fighting to sustain it.....i believe if i asked her out i would have felt a sense of responsibility to her. Thats why i feel a woman stands to gain much when a man seeks her rather than she seeking after him. What do you think?


What do you mean you would have felt a sense of responsibility to her?

I disagree on a woman having to wait around to be asked out, though.

what i mean is that assuming i asked her out, i would see the relationship as my initiative and thus take responsibility of making it work. But since she did.......i was kinda care free.

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Mon 11/07/11 11:38 AM




Speaking of balls... I've had men ask me out, then seem to need approval for anything after that. Especially planning a date. So, just because he asked me out, it did not mean he had balls.



thats what I mean about 'sharing' responsibility

I think because a guy takes initiative when its something important, and possibly, by extension, that I Will be important to them


planning a date may not be as important or they may want to not be overbearing,, that wouldnt bother me


I just dont want a guy that Im going to have to always explain my feelings to in a relationship, a certain ability to read body language is important to me,,,


There was no sharing anything, though. He basically said he didn't want to plan anything. So, your theory doesn't always work.



nothing always does

criminals dont always commit more crime, but that doesnt mean that someone who has been burned wouldnt have reason to make an attempt avoid that potential situation again

'fit' men are not always brave men, but that doesnt mean women wont generally feel safer with them than with 'unfit' men

its just preference, it doesnt truly reflect any type of absolutes because in life nothing really is absolute,,,


What do criminals have to do with this discussion?

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Mon 11/07/11 11:40 AM



well i might not necessary turn her down. What i wrote is based on a personal experience. I had a girl whom i was going to ask out but she was kinda forward (reasons i dont know) and asked me out first. I conscented but althrough our relationship she was fighting to sustain it.....i believe if i asked her out i would have felt a sense of responsibility to her. Thats why i feel a woman stands to gain much when a man seeks her rather than she seeking after him. What do you think?


What do you mean you would have felt a sense of responsibility to her?

I disagree on a woman having to wait around to be asked out, though.

what i mean is that assuming i asked her out, i would see the relationship as my initiative and thus take responsibility of making it work. But since she did.......i was kinda care free.


So you only care about the relationship if you're the one who starts it?

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:40 AM





Speaking of balls... I've had men ask me out, then seem to need approval for anything after that. Especially planning a date. So, just because he asked me out, it did not mean he had balls.



thats what I mean about 'sharing' responsibility

I think because a guy takes initiative when its something important, and possibly, by extension, that I Will be important to them


planning a date may not be as important or they may want to not be overbearing,, that wouldnt bother me


I just dont want a guy that Im going to have to always explain my feelings to in a relationship, a certain ability to read body language is important to me,,,


There was no sharing anything, though. He basically said he didn't want to plan anything. So, your theory doesn't always work.



nothing always does

criminals dont always commit more crime, but that doesnt mean that someone who has been burned wouldnt have reason to make an attempt avoid that potential situation again

'fit' men are not always brave men, but that doesnt mean women wont generally feel safer with them than with 'unfit' men

its just preference, it doesnt truly reflect any type of absolutes because in life nothing really is absolute,,,


What do criminals have to do with this discussion?



its an example of many things that arent ALWAYS The case,,,

to reinforce the idea that nothing is 'always' the case but people still develop preferences based on what they have experienced in their case(s),,,

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Mon 11/07/11 11:41 AM


I understand, and MANY MANY women are attracted to shy guys

the shy guy is just not my PREFERENCE though,,,


I'm not really attracted to shy guys either. I don't ask a guy out because he's shy. I've asked a guy out in the past because I was interested in going out with him.

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:42 AM
yeah. Im not putting down anyone truly. I understand the appeal of shy guys, I understand the reasons for approaching a guy instead of waiting


I just PREFER to be approaced, I am just more ATTRACTED to guys who take the risk of approaching

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:44 AM



I understand, and MANY MANY women are attracted to shy guys

the shy guy is just not my PREFERENCE though,,,


I'm not really attracted to shy guys either. I don't ask a guy out because he's shy. I've asked a guy out in the past because I was interested in going out with him.



understandable

Im interested in more than just appearance though, its more about character and personality,

particularly personalities who 'initiate' are what Im attracted to and interested in

navygirl's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:45 AM






Oh, for goodness sake; are we all still in high school? If you are interested; ask the person out. Its not rocket science. All they can say is no. I hear people whining they want to be in a relationship; then take the damn risk!!. Who gives a damn who ask who first; just as long as the question is asked.



its not really about high school, its just preference

everyone has their own,,,:smile:


I think its childish. Why play the guessing game; life is too short to wait for the perfect circumstances or preferences. Oh well, its a person's loss if they don't take the risk.


You havent carefully read the discussion. She will not be interested in someone who does not step up. Why would she initiate a relationship with someone she's not interested in.

You come off as intolerant here.


Nope not intolerant; I just think its foolish to not take the risk. I think its been said over and over that its not necessarily that a guy isn't interested but he could be shy, not sure of her intersts, or many other things. What have you got to lose?



I understand, and MANY MANY women are attracted to shy guys

the shy guy is just not my PREFERENCE though,,,


Me either; I like a guy who is an extovert but I was meaning not so much like the shy type but he could just be nervous about asking a girl out. No one likes to be shot down so to speak and when meeting someone you don't know how many times this person has been turned down.

navygirl's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:46 AM





Oh, for goodness sake; are we all still in high school? If you are interested; ask the person out. Its not rocket science. All they can say is no. I hear people whining they want to be in a relationship; then take the damn risk!!. Who gives a damn who ask who first; just as long as the question is asked.



its not really about high school, its just preference

everyone has their own,,,:smile:


I think its childish. Why play the guessing game; life is too short to wait for the perfect circumstances or preferences. Oh well, its a person's loss if they don't take the risk.


You havent carefully read the discussion. She will not be interested in someone who does not step up. Why would she initiate a relationship with someone she's not interested in.

You come off as intolerant here.


I don't see her as being intolerant. I actually agree with her for the most part.


Thanks Sing; I'm glad that you got what I was trying to say. flowerforyou

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Mon 11/07/11 11:47 AM






Oh, for goodness sake; are we all still in high school? If you are interested; ask the person out. Its not rocket science. All they can say is no. I hear people whining they want to be in a relationship; then take the damn risk!!. Who gives a damn who ask who first; just as long as the question is asked.



its not really about high school, its just preference

everyone has their own,,,:smile:


I think its childish. Why play the guessing game; life is too short to wait for the perfect circumstances or preferences. Oh well, its a person's loss if they don't take the risk.


You havent carefully read the discussion. She will not be interested in someone who does not step up. Why would she initiate a relationship with someone she's not interested in.

You come off as intolerant here.


I don't see her as being intolerant. I actually agree with her for the most part.
Calling someone names for a preference that has been explained and explained only to be misunderstood with overarching assumptions to me is intolerant. You dont need to agree with her. that has nothing to do with it. She doesnt have to feel the same way as you. Its her prerogative.


No need to tell me who I should or should not agree with :smile:. I know I don't need to agree with everyone.

If you don't agree with her, that's your choice.

I didn't really see any name calling, unless you were talking about childish. I read it as calling the behavior childish. But, who knows.

navygirl's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:47 AM






Oh, for goodness sake; are we all still in high school? If you are interested; ask the person out. Its not rocket science. All they can say is no. I hear people whining they want to be in a relationship; then take the damn risk!!. Who gives a damn who ask who first; just as long as the question is asked.



its not really about high school, its just preference

everyone has their own,,,:smile:


I think its childish. Why play the guessing game; life is too short to wait for the perfect circumstances or preferences. Oh well, its a person's loss if they don't take the risk.


You havent carefully read the discussion. She will not be interested in someone who does not step up. Why would she initiate a relationship with someone she's not interested in.

You come off as intolerant here.


I don't see her as being intolerant. I actually agree with her for the most part.
Calling someone names for a preference that has been explained and explained only to be misunderstood with overarching assumptions to me is intolerant. You dont need to agree with her. that has nothing to do with it. She doesnt have to feel the same way as you. Its her prerogative.


I didn't call anyone names; just saying stating a behaviour which is entirely different.

navygirl's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:49 AM







Oh, for goodness sake; are we all still in high school? If you are interested; ask the person out. Its not rocket science. All they can say is no. I hear people whining they want to be in a relationship; then take the damn risk!!. Who gives a damn who ask who first; just as long as the question is asked.



its not really about high school, its just preference

everyone has their own,,,:smile:


I think its childish. Why play the guessing game; life is too short to wait for the perfect circumstances or preferences. Oh well, its a person's loss if they don't take the risk.


You havent carefully read the discussion. She will not be interested in someone who does not step up. Why would she initiate a relationship with someone she's not interested in.

You come off as intolerant here.


I don't see her as being intolerant. I actually agree with her for the most part.
Calling someone names for a preference that has been explained and explained only to be misunderstood with overarching assumptions to me is intolerant. You dont need to agree with her. that has nothing to do with it. She doesnt have to feel the same way as you. Its her prerogative.


No need to tell me who I should or should not agree with :smile:. I know I don't need to agree with everyone.

If you don't agree with her, that's your choice.

I didn't really see any name calling, unless you were talking about childish. I read it as calling the behavior childish. But, who knows.



ha ha, I just stated the same thing in my last post. However; if people are offended by my calling them childish; then I do apologize.

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/07/11 11:49 AM
its not childish though to prefer a certain type of partner

its honesty with ourself in what we are compatible with,,,