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Topic: What is wrong with being Gay?
Conrad_73's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:09 AM
Guess Clint Eastwood summarized it!

http://www.negativet.se/Clint.jpg


Due to the forceful Language he used on the picture,I only posted the link to it!

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:11 AM

Guess Clint Eastwood summarized it!

http://www.negativet.se/Clint.jpg


Due to the forceful Language he used on the picture,I only posted the link to it!


I agree with what he said! :thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:12 AM








this is true, so behaviors can cause harm, which is my point in response to the 'it doesnt hurt anyone' argument


So then you're saying being heterosexual is harmful as well?


I think she is just saying sex in itself can cause harm but I am just saying that sexual diseases can be caused by both homosexual and hetrosexual. I just don't understand why she is pointing only at homosexual people.



Heterosexual sex can cause harm as well, but its a NECESSARY behavior for any of us to exist,, so we must deal with it,,,and can only try to be more responsible about it as opposed to promoting that we stop it or that its unhealthy overall,,,

unlike , say, sodomy which has no such benefits or necessity and comes with plenty of risks,,,


Ah, so sex is only ok as long as it's necessary! Does necessary mean only having sex to procreate?

You're not going to be able to stop having sex for pleasure, no matter how much you disagree with it.



I only disagree with the notion that it 'isnt hurting anyone'


Someone having sex that you don't agree with, while being safe about it, isn't going to harm you. Fortunately, when it comes to sex, as long as it's legal, we can do what we want even if there are those who don't agree.


it doesnt have to be an activity that doesnt harm me for me to disagree with it

a man cheating on his wife doesnt affect me personally either, but I can still disagree with it,,advise against it, and otherwise not 'accept' it as the norm or anything that should become a norm

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:13 AM


Guess Clint Eastwood summarized it!

http://www.negativet.se/Clint.jpg


Due to the forceful Language he used on the picture,I only posted the link to it!


I agree with what he said! :thumbsup:
So did I!

:laughing: :thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:14 AM

Guess Clint Eastwood summarized it!

http://www.negativet.se/Clint.jpg


Due to the forceful Language he used on the picture,I only posted the link to it!


he confuses the issue to

its not about having the life you want, we all have the freedom to love and commit to whomever we wish

we just dont all get Government support for those choices,,

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Wed 11/02/11 11:18 AM



it doesnt have to be an activity that doesnt harm me for me to disagree with it

a man cheating on his wife doesnt affect me personally either, but I can still disagree with it,,advise against it, and otherwise not 'accept' it as the norm or anything that should become a norm


You can disagree with all you want and not participate in activities that you don't like. That's not going to make them stop, though.

I'm not sure how comparing cheating to homosexual sex is going to work, though. Not nearly the same thing. Especially when cheating is done by heterosexuals as well.

My point is just because you don't agree with gay marriage, or gay people having sex, for whatever reason, does not mean it should not happen.

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:19 AM


Guess Clint Eastwood summarized it!

http://www.negativet.se/Clint.jpg


Due to the forceful Language he used on the picture,I only posted the link to it!


he confuses the issue to

its not about having the life you want, we all have the freedom to love and commit to whomever we wish

we just dont all get Government support for those choices,,


I can't really take people seriously who go on about the sanctity of marriage, when there are people like Kim Kardashian getting married and divorced within a few months.

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:28 AM



Guess Clint Eastwood summarized it!

http://www.negativet.se/Clint.jpg


Due to the forceful Language he used on the picture,I only posted the link to it!


he confuses the issue to

its not about having the life you want, we all have the freedom to love and commit to whomever we wish

we just dont all get Government support for those choices,,


I can't really take people seriously who go on about the sanctity of marriage, when there are people like Kim Kardashian getting married and divorced within a few months.


I agree. Its not about the 'sanctity'. ITs more about the 'purpose' .

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:29 AM




it doesnt have to be an activity that doesnt harm me for me to disagree with it

a man cheating on his wife doesnt affect me personally either, but I can still disagree with it,,advise against it, and otherwise not 'accept' it as the norm or anything that should become a norm


You can disagree with all you want and not participate in activities that you don't like. That's not going to make them stop, though.

I'm not sure how comparing cheating to homosexual sex is going to work, though. Not nearly the same thing. Especially when cheating is done by heterosexuals as well.

My point is just because you don't agree with gay marriage, or gay people having sex, for whatever reason, does not mean it should not happen.



I agree, disagreeing doesnt mean it shouldnt happen anymore than agreeing with it should mean that it should happen

neither of those things are issues

my comparison to adultery was a refute to the 'it doesnt affect you' comment

many things that dont affect me PERSONALLY are still concerning to me, because I dont live in a tunnel but amongst other humans in a society,, where we are interconnected and affect each other (either directly or indirectly) when its all said and done...

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:32 AM




Guess Clint Eastwood summarized it!

http://www.negativet.se/Clint.jpg


Due to the forceful Language he used on the picture,I only posted the link to it!


he confuses the issue to

its not about having the life you want, we all have the freedom to love and commit to whomever we wish

we just dont all get Government support for those choices,,


I can't really take people seriously who go on about the sanctity of marriage, when there are people like Kim Kardashian getting married and divorced within a few months.


I agree. Its not about the 'sanctity'. ITs more about the 'purpose' .


My comment still stands whether talking about the sanctity or purpose.

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 11:38 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 11/02/11 11:39 AM
Young men who grow up in homes without fathers are twice as likely to end up in jail as those who come from traditional two-parent families

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes

85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes

Children from low-income, two-parent families outperform students from high-income, single-parent homes. Almost twice as many high achievers come from two-parent homes as one-parent homes

Only 13 percent of juvenile delinquents come from families in which the biological mother and father are married to each other

...these and other stats are the basis upon which I find a specific value and PURPOSE SOCIALLY in the continued PROMOTION that the initial RELATION that creates these children be one that is permanent as opposed to fleeting

I see no such value and purpose in promoting homosexual unions,,,,

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 12:06 PM

many things that dont affect me PERSONALLY are still concerning to me, because I dont live in a tunnel but amongst other humans in a society,, where we are interconnected and affect each other (either directly or indirectly) when its all said and done...


if i go have sex with a girl,
how is your life affected?

navygirl's photo
Wed 11/02/11 12:07 PM
Edited by navygirl on Wed 11/02/11 12:07 PM

accepting who we are is not the same as accepting everything we do,,,or condoning it

if parents did that, they would be considered unfit,,,

A lot of parents are unfit actually. Most can't even provide food, clothing, a good education for their children yet they keep having more babies. I served with gay people, I have gay friends, and my best friend in the world has a gay son whom I think the world of. I support them and love them with all my heart. If this makes me a bad person; then so be it. I would rather burn in hell than be in heaven with biggots.

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 12:08 PM


many things that dont affect me PERSONALLY are still concerning to me, because I dont live in a tunnel but amongst other humans in a society,, where we are interconnected and affect each other (either directly or indirectly) when its all said and done...


if i go have sex with a girl,
how is your life affected?



my life is not personally affected, that was my point

but I can still feel concern and disapproval just as I would if you were cutting on yourself,,,,which also would not personally affect me

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Wed 11/02/11 12:11 PM

my life is not personally affected, that was my point

but I can still feel concern and disapproval just as I would if you were cutting on yourself,,,,which also would not personally affect me


what is there to be concerned about?

mightymoe's photo
Wed 11/02/11 12:12 PM









No, nothing is wrong, it's just a bad habit. happy
Wellcome to Mingle2! waving
would you like to expand on that "Bad-Habit" Statement?

God made man and woman, not man and man or woman and woman.
And there is no explaination on earth that can justify these act.
It is from the pit of hell. what



preach on girl... if everyone was gay, our species would die out...



its not even that deep, if everyone was female we would die out too.

Its just that the parts were made to compliment each other sexually, the male and female parts

that is why the other are usually called 'alternative' because they arent in line with the NATURAL biology of the species...

not to mention the heightened risks of sodomy and how it trickles down to the rest of society,,,


i just consider it bad morals, not to mention bad judgement...


I agree with the bad judgment, as to morals, I think there is some of that and I think there is also alot of confusion in a society making wrong into right and right into wrong

it FEELS right, so it must BE right,,,thats the moral standard we promote,, and children are learning early on,, so how can we flaw when they grow into adults whose actions and words reflect what 'feels' right to them...


to some people, it feels "right" to cut themselves with razors... they get locked up for that, but they still say it is right...


You're comparing that to being gay? Really?


whats the difference? both are unnatural, and people do it anyway... whatever makes you feel good, right? isn't that all that matters?

mightymoe's photo
Wed 11/02/11 12:13 PM


my life is not personally affected, that was my point

but I can still feel concern and disapproval just as I would if you were cutting on yourself,,,,which also would not personally affect me


what is there to be concerned about?


that you didn't let me watch...

navygirl's photo
Wed 11/02/11 12:17 PM




the issue here is that gays are NOT treated as full productive humans in our society. the same was said for women, blacks and my native brothers and sisters who still today are just thought of as "lazy indians" Gays dont want specail treatment, they just wanna be treated the same as other "humans" Why should we care what they do with other consenting adults, if its sincere and its true love,then its none of our business what they do behind closed doors!!


The Human Race for the most part are Decent but because we are brainwashed by media we have forgotten how to think. Most people believe what they read and see in the Elite controlled media.


You are such a wise man. I think I have a crush on you. LOL :heart:


Wonder If I will get eight hours sleep tonight. love


I can read you a story and tuck you in if you like. pitchfork

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 12:18 PM


my life is not personally affected, that was my point

but I can still feel concern and disapproval just as I would if you were cutting on yourself,,,,which also would not personally affect me


what is there to be concerned about?



for starters, the belief that it was having 'sex'

if there is actually penetration(pretty significant in 'sex'), the concern for the actual intimacy that was really being fulfilled using artificial objects,,,

and the concern for why such intimacy was either unwanted or unpresent in general,,,

mightymoe's photo
Wed 11/02/11 12:18 PM




it doesnt have to be an activity that doesnt harm me for me to disagree with it

a man cheating on his wife doesnt affect me personally either, but I can still disagree with it,,advise against it, and otherwise not 'accept' it as the norm or anything that should become a norm


You can disagree with all you want and not participate in activities that you don't like. That's not going to make them stop, though.

I'm not sure how comparing cheating to homosexual sex is going to work, though. Not nearly the same thing. Especially when cheating is done by heterosexuals as well.

My point is just because you don't agree with gay marriage, or gay people having sex, for whatever reason, does not mean it should not happen.

and why is that? California voted against gay marriage, the gayest state in the US... the majority of the people spoke up there and stopped that nonsense...so i guess it does means it won't happen

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