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Topic: What is wrong with being Gay?
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Wed 11/02/11 12:18 PM

Young men who grow up in homes without fathers are twice as likely to end up in jail as those who come from traditional two-parent families

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes

85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes

Children from low-income, two-parent families outperform students from high-income, single-parent homes. Almost twice as many high achievers come from two-parent homes as one-parent homes

Only 13 percent of juvenile delinquents come from families in which the biological mother and father are married to each other

...these and other stats are the basis upon which I find a specific value and PURPOSE SOCIALLY in the continued PROMOTION that the initial RELATION that creates these children be one that is permanent as opposed to fleeting

I see no such value and purpose in promoting homosexual unions,,,,


I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is, or why it has to do with you not wanting to promote homosexual unions.

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Wed 11/02/11 12:19 PM



many things that dont affect me PERSONALLY are still concerning to me, because I dont live in a tunnel but amongst other humans in a society,, where we are interconnected and affect each other (either directly or indirectly) when its all said and done...


if i go have sex with a girl,
how is your life affected?



my life is not personally affected, that was my point

but I can still feel concern and disapproval just as I would if you were cutting on yourself,,,,which also would not personally affect me


Why should there be concern just as there would be for someone who was cutting themselves? huh

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Wed 11/02/11 12:20 PM
I see no PURPOSE

I see the purpose that would motivate the support of Heterosexual MARRIAGE

I dont see the purpose to support homosexual marriage, although I do see a significance and equality in allowing consenting adults to join their lives in the LEGAL capacity of a civil union

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Wed 11/02/11 12:20 PM










No, nothing is wrong, it's just a bad habit. happy
Wellcome to Mingle2! waving
would you like to expand on that "Bad-Habit" Statement?

God made man and woman, not man and man or woman and woman.
And there is no explaination on earth that can justify these act.
It is from the pit of hell. what



preach on girl... if everyone was gay, our species would die out...



its not even that deep, if everyone was female we would die out too.

Its just that the parts were made to compliment each other sexually, the male and female parts

that is why the other are usually called 'alternative' because they arent in line with the NATURAL biology of the species...

not to mention the heightened risks of sodomy and how it trickles down to the rest of society,,,


i just consider it bad morals, not to mention bad judgement...


I agree with the bad judgment, as to morals, I think there is some of that and I think there is also alot of confusion in a society making wrong into right and right into wrong

it FEELS right, so it must BE right,,,thats the moral standard we promote,, and children are learning early on,, so how can we flaw when they grow into adults whose actions and words reflect what 'feels' right to them...


to some people, it feels "right" to cut themselves with razors... they get locked up for that, but they still say it is right...


You're comparing that to being gay? Really?


whats the difference? both are unnatural, and people do it anyway... whatever makes you feel good, right? isn't that all that matters?


This makes no sense. If you're unable to see the difference between being gay and harming yourself physically, I won't be able to help you.

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Wed 11/02/11 12:21 PM




many things that dont affect me PERSONALLY are still concerning to me, because I dont live in a tunnel but amongst other humans in a society,, where we are interconnected and affect each other (either directly or indirectly) when its all said and done...


if i go have sex with a girl,
how is your life affected?



my life is not personally affected, that was my point

but I can still feel concern and disapproval just as I would if you were cutting on yourself,,,,which also would not personally affect me


Why should there be concern just as there would be for someone who was cutting themselves? huh



because of what I consider to be the unhealthy nature of both, and what I believe to be the underlying causes of both which are ignored when we just accept and condone the behavior,,,

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Wed 11/02/11 12:25 PM

for starters, the belief that it was having 'sex'

if there is actually penetration(pretty significant in 'sex'), the concern for the actual intimacy that was really being fulfilled using artificial objects,,,

and the concern for why such intimacy was either unwanted or unpresent in general,,,


if there's an orgasm how is it not sex?
what do you call it then?
what about oral sex?
you're not going to tell me that only same sex couples participate in oral.
sex is for pleasure.
introduce me to those who use it purely for reproduction.

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Wed 11/02/11 12:26 PM

because of what I consider to be the unhealthy nature of both, and what I believe to be the underlying causes of both which are ignored when we just accept and condone the behavior,,,


what's the cause of being gay?

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Wed 11/02/11 12:26 PM
Edited by navygirl on Wed 11/02/11 12:27 PM
Here is Clint Eastwood's comment although the nasty words will be edited; I like his style. :thumbsup:

"These people who are making a big deal out of Gay marriage? I don't give a f-ck about who wants to get married to anybody else. We're making a big deal out of things we shouldn't be making a big deal out of. They go on and on with all this bullsh-t about sanctity. Don't give me that sanctity crap! Just give everybody the chance to live the life they want.

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Wed 11/02/11 12:27 PM




the issue here is that gays are NOT treated as full productive humans in our society. the same was said for women, blacks and my native brothers and sisters who still today are just thought of as "lazy indians" Gays dont want specail treatment, they just wanna be treated the same as other "humans" Why should we care what they do with other consenting adults, if its sincere and its true love,then its none of our business what they do behind closed doors!!


The Human Race for the most part are Decent but because we are brainwashed by media we have forgotten how to think. Most people believe what they read and see in the Elite controlled media.


You are such a wise man. I think I have a crush on you. LOL :heart:


Wonder If I will get eight hours sleep tonight. love

at least something good has come out of these argument.... flowerforyou

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Wed 11/02/11 12:28 PM











No, nothing is wrong, it's just a bad habit. happy
Wellcome to Mingle2! waving
would you like to expand on that "Bad-Habit" Statement?

God made man and woman, not man and man or woman and woman.
And there is no explaination on earth that can justify these act.
It is from the pit of hell. what



preach on girl... if everyone was gay, our species would die out...



its not even that deep, if everyone was female we would die out too.

Its just that the parts were made to compliment each other sexually, the male and female parts

that is why the other are usually called 'alternative' because they arent in line with the NATURAL biology of the species...

not to mention the heightened risks of sodomy and how it trickles down to the rest of society,,,


i just consider it bad morals, not to mention bad judgement...


I agree with the bad judgment, as to morals, I think there is some of that and I think there is also alot of confusion in a society making wrong into right and right into wrong

it FEELS right, so it must BE right,,,thats the moral standard we promote,, and children are learning early on,, so how can we flaw when they grow into adults whose actions and words reflect what 'feels' right to them...


to some people, it feels "right" to cut themselves with razors... they get locked up for that, but they still say it is right...


You're comparing that to being gay? Really?


whats the difference? both are unnatural, and people do it anyway... whatever makes you feel good, right? isn't that all that matters?


This makes no sense. If you're unable to see the difference between being gay and harming yourself physically, I won't be able to help you.


help? i don't remember asking for your "help"..just because you think it's right doesn't make it so. strong moral and ethical values is what made this country what it used to be... look at the country now, no morals, no ethical values and now the country is going down the toilet, because people have no morals anymore...

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Wed 11/02/11 12:32 PM



help? i don't remember asking for your "help"..just because you think it's right doesn't make it so. strong moral and ethical values is what made this country what it used to be... look at the country now, no morals, no ethical values and now the country is going down the toilet, because people have no morals anymore...


Whose morals do you think this country should be run on? Who gets to decide that?

And just because you believe it's wrong doesn't make it so. The good thing about this country is you're allowed to not like homosexuality and I am allowed to think it's just fine.


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Wed 11/02/11 12:33 PM


for starters, the belief that it was having 'sex'

if there is actually penetration(pretty significant in 'sex'), the concern for the actual intimacy that was really being fulfilled using artificial objects,,,

and the concern for why such intimacy was either unwanted or unpresent in general,,,


if there's an orgasm how is it not sex?
what do you call it then?
what about oral sex?
you're not going to tell me that only same sex couples participate in oral.
sex is for pleasure.
introduce me to those who use it purely for reproduction.


many people orgasm without 'sex'

I call it foreplay, grinding, rubbing, licking

I call oral sex , oral sex, I consider it foreplay and not actual sex

all types of couples participate in foreplay, grinding, rubbing, and licking (forms of stimulation, but not sex)


sex is for procreation, and to share an intimate bond, but it has the benefit of being pleasurable(sometimes)

much like food is for nourishment, but it usually has to taste good before we will eat it,,,

sometimes we eat things that have little nutritional value just because they taste good

much of the time we engage in sex with the same attitude


few people do it PURELY for reproduction anymore than people eat PURELY for nutrition

people do it understanding reproduction is a potential consequence and enjoying the INTIMACY involved in being so completley 'connected' physically



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Wed 11/02/11 12:37 PM

many people orgasm without 'sex'

I call it foreplay, grinding, rubbing, licking

I call oral sex , oral sex, I consider it foreplay and not actual sex

all types of couples participate in foreplay, grinding, rubbing, and licking (forms of stimulation, but not sex)


sex is for procreation, and to share an intimate bond, but it has the benefit of being pleasurable(sometimes)

much like food is for nourishment, but it usually has to taste good before we will eat it,,,

sometimes we eat things that have little nutritional value just because they taste good

much of the time we engage in sex with the same attitude


few people do it PURELY for reproduction anymore than people eat PURELY for nutrition

people do it understanding reproduction is a potential consequence and enjoying the INTIMACY involved in being so completley 'connected' physically





...well then you disapprove of my foreplay just because i'm doing it with another girl?
or do you disapprove of all foreplay?
i'm still not sure what you're so concerned about.
spell it out for me.

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Wed 11/02/11 12:38 PM
Oh good Lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The self proclaimed bi-sexual is denouncing homosexuality?????

navygirl's photo
Wed 11/02/11 12:38 PM




help? i don't remember asking for your "help"..just because you think it's right doesn't make it so. strong moral and ethical values is what made this country what it used to be... look at the country now, no morals, no ethical values and now the country is going down the toilet, because people have no morals anymore...


Whose morals do you think this country should be run on? Who gets to decide that?

And just because you believe it's wrong doesn't make it so. The good thing about this country is you're allowed to not like homosexuality and I am allowed to think it's just fine.



I agree with you Sing. As for mighty moes comment; A person's morals has nothing to do homosexuality as its an individual choice. I see nothing wrong with people loving each other whether its hetrosexual or homosexual.

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Wed 11/02/11 12:39 PM


the issue here is that gays are NOT treated as full productive humans in our society. the same was said for women, blacks and my native brothers and sisters who still today are just thought of as "lazy indians" Gays dont want specail treatment, they just wanna be treated the same as other "humans" Why should we care what they do with other consenting adults, if its sincere and its true love,then its none of our business what they do behind closed doors!!


The Human Race for the most part are Decent but because we are brainwashed by media we have forgotten how to think. Most people believe what they read and see in the Elite controlled media.


You are such a wise man. I think I have a crush on you. LOL :heart:


Wonder If I will get eight hours sleep tonight. love


I can read you a story and tuck you in if you like. pitchfork


You are an :angel: but with you in the room sleep would be the last thought on my mind.

This is slightly off topic but in the interest of balance I think a touch of heterosexuality is in orderoops

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Wed 11/02/11 12:41 PM
"I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints...sinners are much more fun!!!":banana: :banana:

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Wed 11/02/11 12:42 PM



the issue here is that gays are NOT treated as full productive humans in our society. the same was said for women, blacks and my native brothers and sisters who still today are just thought of as "lazy indians" Gays dont want specail treatment, they just wanna be treated the same as other "humans" Why should we care what they do with other consenting adults, if its sincere and its true love,then its none of our business what they do behind closed doors!!


The Human Race for the most part are Decent but because we are brainwashed by media we have forgotten how to think. Most people believe what they read and see in the Elite controlled media.


You are such a wise man. I think I have a crush on you. LOL :heart:


Wonder If I will get eight hours sleep tonight. love


I can read you a story and tuck you in if you like. pitchfork


You are an :angel: but with you in the room sleep would be the last thought on my mind.

This is slightly off topic but in the interest of balance I think a touch of heterosexuality is in orderoops


waving love

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Wed 11/02/11 12:44 PM





help? i don't remember asking for your "help"..just because you think it's right doesn't make it so. strong moral and ethical values is what made this country what it used to be... look at the country now, no morals, no ethical values and now the country is going down the toilet, because people have no morals anymore...


Whose morals do you think this country should be run on? Who gets to decide that?

And just because you believe it's wrong doesn't make it so. The good thing about this country is you're allowed to not like homosexuality and I am allowed to think it's just fine.



I agree with you Sing. As for mighty moes comment; A person's morals has nothing to do homosexuality as its an individual choice. I see nothing wrong with people loving each other whether its hetrosexual or homosexual.


you do know what moral means, right?...lol

navygirl's photo
Wed 11/02/11 12:45 PM
Edited by navygirl on Wed 11/02/11 12:47 PM






help? i don't remember asking for your "help"..just because you think it's right doesn't make it so. strong moral and ethical values is what made this country what it used to be... look at the country now, no morals, no ethical values and now the country is going down the toilet, because people have no morals anymore...


Whose morals do you think this country should be run on? Who gets to decide that?

And just because you believe it's wrong doesn't make it so. The good thing about this country is you're allowed to not like homosexuality and I am allowed to think it's just fine.



I agree with you Sing. As for mighty moes comment; A person's morals has nothing to do homosexuality as its an individual choice. I see nothing wrong with people loving each other whether its hetrosexual or homosexual.


you do know what moral means, right?...lol


Yes I do know what moral means and funny how when I looked up the definition for the heck of it; it mentioned nothing about homosexuality .pitchfork

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