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Topic: What is wrong with being Gay?
TheCaptain's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:11 PM
So if a man has oral sex, or anal sex, outside of his marriage, it should not be considered cheating??????

Really??????

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:13 PM

So if a man has oral sex, or anal sex, outside of his marriage, it should not be considered cheating??????

Really??????



of course it is cheating, according to the 'foresaking all others' thing,,,, enciting lust and stimulating another outside of marriage I would certainly consider cheating,,


eileena9's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:14 PM




MsHarmony, since when is oral sex not sex??



its called sex, I dont consider it sex

it has ZERO chance of creating life

I consider only those activities that are life producing to be SEXUAL

everything else I consider to be merely means of stimulation,,,


Ah. So anal sex isn't sex either, since there's no way to create life?




in my eyes,

no, its not

medically, it is considered to be as it does transmit STDs

and involves swapping of bodily fluid through a sexual organ


So does oral sex......i.e. oral gonorrhea

TheCaptain's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:14 PM
Edited by TheCaptain on Wed 11/02/11 01:15 PM
You walk a funny line. (To Ms. Harmony)

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:15 PM





MsHarmony, since when is oral sex not sex??



its called sex, I dont consider it sex

it has ZERO chance of creating life

I consider only those activities that are life producing to be SEXUAL

everything else I consider to be merely means of stimulation,,,


Ah. So anal sex isn't sex either, since there's no way to create life?




in my eyes,

no, its not

medically, it is considered to be as it does transmit STDs

and involves swapping of bodily fluid through a sexual organ


So does oral sex......i.e. oral gonorrhea



that is true too, although the incidence of std is much much lower through oral than it is through anal, for many biological reasons

but yes, all forms of fluid swapping can lead to STDs

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:15 PM

You walk a funny line.


I know.

joy4gud's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:20 PM


I can't believe I am reading this - is it 1973?

It has been a long long time since gender orientation was an issue.
so I actually think it is silly to worry about it




Sadly, it's still an issue for many, many people. I don't understand it.

it is still an issue, and wil continue to be, till eternity...

navygirl's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:21 PM



I can't believe I am reading this - is it 1973?

It has been a long long time since gender orientation was an issue.
so I actually think it is silly to worry about it




Sadly, it's still an issue for many, many people. I don't understand it.

it is still an issue, and wil continue to be, till eternity...


Or until bigotry dies.

TheCaptain's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:21 PM
Not to me anymore. I just don't care what your orientation is.

navygirl's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:24 PM

Not to me anymore. I just don't care what your orientation is.


:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:24 PM




I can't believe I am reading this - is it 1973?

It has been a long long time since gender orientation was an issue.
so I actually think it is silly to worry about it




Sadly, it's still an issue for many, many people. I don't understand it.

it is still an issue, and wil continue to be, till eternity...


Or until bigotry dies.



bigotry cant die, technically, because that would call for people who already dont consider themself bigots to stand steadfast

which , technically, makes them bigoted as well

bigot : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

eileena9's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:25 PM

from miriam webster

: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex


,, SEXUAL DESIRE TOWARD


not to have sex with, but to DESIRE to have sex with


Full definition from there.....

Definition of HOMOSEXUAL



1

: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex


2

: of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:27 PM


from miriam webster

: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex


,, SEXUAL DESIRE TOWARD


not to have sex with, but to DESIRE to have sex with


Full definition from there.....

Definition of HOMOSEXUAL



1

: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex


2

: of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex



thank you

I was only asked to show ANYWHERE that stated homosexuality was based in attraction

navygirl's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:29 PM





I can't believe I am reading this - is it 1973?

It has been a long long time since gender orientation was an issue.
so I actually think it is silly to worry about it




Sadly, it's still an issue for many, many people. I don't understand it.

it is still an issue, and wil continue to be, till eternity...


Or until bigotry dies.



bigotry cant die, technically, because that would call for people who already dont consider themself bigots to stand steadfast

which , technically, makes them bigoted as well

bigot : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices


Guess I will see you all in hell then!!!

no photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:30 PM

no, I dont disapprove of foreplay

I am concerned though with how we have come to view intimacy and all the alternate ways in which we have come accustomed to seeking it,,


so you disapprove of the idea but not the actual act?

eileena9's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:31 PM
It doesn't say "attraction" it say "sexual desire"





But, no matter....anyone can be what they want, it is not up to me to judge if it is between two consenting ADULTS.

navygirl's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:34 PM
Edited by navygirl on Wed 11/02/11 01:36 PM

It doesn't say "attraction" it say "sexual desire"

But, no matter....anyone can be what they want, it is not up to me to judge if it is between two consenting ADULTS.


Absolutely; and I think that is what most of us have been saying.

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:36 PM
unhealthy is unhealthy, consenting adults can consent to unhealthy activities

consent doesnt automatically make anything 'right' or 'healthy' or of noone elses concern,,,,


no photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:37 PM

unhealthy is unhealthy, consenting adults can consent to unhealthy activities

consent doesnt automatically make anything 'right' or 'healthy' or of noone elses concern,,,,




you keep saying it's not 'right' or 'healthy.'
well then tell me why it's wrong or unhealthy.

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/02/11 01:40 PM


unhealthy is unhealthy, consenting adults can consent to unhealthy activities

consent doesnt automatically make anything 'right' or 'healthy' or of noone elses concern,,,,




you keep saying it's not 'right' or 'healthy.'
well then tell me why it's wrong or unhealthy.


I can only tell you it concerns me as a means of trying to find 'intimacy' between a woman and a woman

its a symptom of deeper issues that should be dealt with instead, in my opinion,,,and that concerns me

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