Topic: What is wrong with being Gay?
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Thu 11/03/11 01:07 PM
@dragoness - That is the best profile pic I have seen, it is right on!

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Thu 11/03/11 01:13 PM

@dragoness - That is the best profile pic I have seen, it is right on!


I know it looks just like me! J/K. Not my creation, I got it off the internet.

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Thu 11/03/11 01:30 PM
haha wow! Then you look good. I know but it's still brilliant

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Thu 11/03/11 01:31 PM




its not acceptable to use the body for physical and sexual satisfaction which it was not BUILT for



I guess our Creator should have omitted the clitoris then if he didn't want sex to be satistactory. whoa slaphead


The clitoris must stay:banana:


:thumbsup:

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Thu 11/03/11 01:34 PM









pretty sure... i have seen dogs and monkeys hump on each other, but thats not really a gay thing, just a need for sex, and whatever is closest to them... when a puppy humps your leg, do you not tell it no? well, the same thing with gays, they need to be told no...


If that were the case, that homosexuals only slept with each other because that's what's closest to them, then they would sleep with members of the opposite sex as well, if they were the "closest thing" to them. I can't even believe you just said that.

And you really need to do some research before you start posting things like this. There have been numerous studies involving homosexuality in the animal kingdom. And it doesn't only occur because they only want to hump the closest thing to them.


so your a homo expert? why don't you explain why they hump then? do any animals (same sex) try to live and breed with each other? NO they do not... show me one species that does, mrs know it all...


Instinct!!!..Innate behavior!!!!!! Jeeeeezeeeee, it's so simple Moe!!slaphead

is that why puppies hump your leg, trees, anything they can get there paws around?... boy, that sounds gay to me...whoa


Yes, it is and I'm sorry that sounds gay to you...Did you ever have a "wet" dream Moe?


if i have, it sure wouldn't have been about guys...


One word, spontaneous.....


i disagree, i tend to think of it as they cannot control themselves... spontaneous can be many things, and control is a major factor...you spontaneously decide you want your friends wife or girlfriend and thats supposed to make it right? self control is what keeps you out of jail and alive...


I WAS TALKING ABOUT WET DREAMS! KETCHUP!:laughing:

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Thu 11/03/11 01:34 PM

i can talk to smarter and better people at the looney bend...


<clearing throat> ..............................^^^^^looney bin? laugh

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Thu 11/03/11 01:36 PM


I actually agree that it's the churches right to decide who gets married there or not. I'm 100% for gay marriage, but also understand that a particular church has a right to deny them the chance to be married there. You can't take away the rights of the individual churches either. That's not fair.


I would not be for forcing churches to marry gay people if they choose not to. However, I would not say that gay people should not be allowed to marry in churches if they choose to do so.


There you go, totally agree!

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Thu 11/03/11 01:38 PM





I guess the best way to go about it is let them be married (but there would have to be another word for it, it cannot be called marriage)and couldn't be done in a church..the taxes and everything that goes with it could be the same. Right now I think those are the biggest issues with this becoming legal around the country.


Take time and re-read your post!...."LET" them get married!!! OMG!!slaphead


Ok i re-read it and I couldn't word that any better the second time around so if you can't fully grasp what I was trying to say I'm sorry..I was just pointing out the biggest problem that gays have with the whole marriage thing.7


How would you feel if someone, anyone, told you they would "let" you get married, but not in a church...I'm sorry you don't get it.....Especially the part about how it is not yours to decide!!!!


wouldn't bother me in the slightest... churches have their protocol, and why should anyone say that it is wrong for a church to believe in what it believes? and the whole point is getting married, not where it is at... all of you are saying people are wrong for what they believe, and you seem to think their is only one answer, yours...so let me ask you this, even though i already know the answer... am i wrong for thinking being gay is wrong?


You're missing the point...Not how would you feel if the church said no, how would you feel if you neighbor, or your work associate said no!frustrated

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Thu 11/03/11 01:39 PM
Edited by winterblue56 on Thu 11/03/11 01:44 PM

I knew there were a few reasons I like Canada but now there is one more.

Obviously they are smarter there or at least more socially advanced then we are in the US.


whoa

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Thu 11/03/11 02:01 PM
Edited by singmesweet on Thu 11/03/11 02:02 PM










pretty sure... i have seen dogs and monkeys hump on each other, but thats not really a gay thing, just a need for sex, and whatever is closest to them... when a puppy humps your leg, do you not tell it no? well, the same thing with gays, they need to be told no...


If that were the case, that homosexuals only slept with each other because that's what's closest to them, then they would sleep with members of the opposite sex as well, if they were the "closest thing" to them. I can't even believe you just said that.

And you really need to do some research before you start posting things like this. There have been numerous studies involving homosexuality in the animal kingdom. And it doesn't only occur because they only want to hump the closest thing to them.


so your a homo expert? why don't you explain why they hump then? do any animals (same sex) try to live and breed with each other? NO they do not... show me one species that does, mrs know it all...


Actually, one of the articles posted here did say same sex animals have paired up for life.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

Animals that live a completely homosexual life can also be found. This occurs especially among birds that will pair with one partner for life, which is the case with geese and ducks. Four to five percent of the couples are homosexual. Single females will lay eggs in a homosexual pair's nest. It has been observced that the homosexual couple are often better at raising the young than heterosexual couples.




it would be interesting to know the medical criteria for 'better at raising',,,lol


their is not enough known about this to base any conclusion... i have been around ducks and geese, turkeys, all sorts of animals all my life, and have never seen anything like this... gays to to special lengths to legitimize their behavior...so it is "normal" because someone thought they saw a gay duck? hahahahahahahahah


You asked for someone to show animals who have done what you say they don't do. I did that with this article. It's obvious that nothing anyone shows you is not going to change your mind, no matter what it says. So why not just say you're never going to believe any research whatsoever that shoes homosexual behavior in nature?


you showed me what you think is the truth, and thank you, but i really don't think they have studied it enough to come to any conclusion... being gay is about the sex, not about love... do these geese and ducks have gay butt sex? i don't think they do... lots of animals get together for safety reasons, not because they want sex with each other....


Did you even bother to read the article? It also talks about same sex animals having sex with each other.




a monkey will hump a knothole in a tree if it gets the urge... he just never learned what to do with it yet... whats your point?


Wait.. in one post, you ask if these animals have sex. When it's shown that they do, you pass it off as them not having learned what to do yet? Once again, did you actually read the article? Why do you keep contradicting yourself? I guess it goes back to what I said earlier about no matter what is shown to you, you're going to make up excuses as to why animals are not showing homosexual behavior in nature.

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Thu 11/03/11 02:11 PM



only if Jon joinsrofl


I'm sure he will if you ask nicely.....rofl .....he will bring the paddle!!:banana:


Did I just hear someone say, "if you ask nicely, he will bring the paddle???? :thumbsup:
Dang,

Cant even joke around in here.scared

You guys are on a warpath!surprised laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

navygirl's photo
Thu 11/03/11 02:37 PM




only if Jon joinsrofl


I'm sure he will if you ask nicely.....rofl .....he will bring the paddle!!:banana:


Did I just hear someone say, "if you ask nicely, he will bring the paddle???? :thumbsup:
Dang,

Cant even joke around in here.scared

You guys are on a warpath!surprised laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Yep, this is a touchy subject.

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Thu 11/03/11 02:44 PM


I would like to thank all the people here that are opened hearted as well as minded to know that Homosexuality is noting more than a varience of naure.

I'm sadden by the ones who reside in a prejudice point of view and feel that people like myself are not entitled or worthy of marriage (in a church) and are not capibale of loving the same gender.


I too am saddened with those who would oppose two people in love regardless of gender. The nice thing is its a minority on this thread that are like that and not the majority.



I dont oppose being 'in love'

I oppose certain SEXUAL behaviors,,,

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 02:45 PM





Binlaugh

When humans stop considering differences wrong, we will be able to end all this discriminatory dialogue and reactions.

It is okay not to be the same as others.

And being gay hurts no one.

So naturally being gay is okay and should be allowed all rights that all other humans have.



likewise, incest 'hurts' noone either if it is consentual

I guess we should be prepared to have uncle dads and aunty moms eventually, or perhaps we will totally get rid of the unfair family labels and gender recognition altogether...


How did we all know that was coming?...lol

Incest does hurt. But I guess Christians don't know that since they believe in it. Their bible starts with it.

And incestuous beginning to man and they claim moral superiorityslaphead



please explain how RESPONSIBLE incestuous sex is hurtful?


No, you figure it out since you have an obsession with incest.

You obviously haven't thought it through yet because you fixate on it.

So you let me know when you have it right.

I will wait patiently for the day.


as patiently as I will wait for someone who can answer the question,,

navygirl's photo
Thu 11/03/11 02:47 PM



I would like to thank all the people here that are opened hearted as well as minded to know that Homosexuality is noting more than a varience of naure.

I'm sadden by the ones who reside in a prejudice point of view and feel that people like myself are not entitled or worthy of marriage (in a church) and are not capibale of loving the same gender.


I too am saddened with those who would oppose two people in love regardless of gender. The nice thing is its a minority on this thread that are like that and not the majority.



I dont oppose being 'in love'

I oppose certain SEXUAL behaviors,,,


Well at least sexual behaviours between gay couples it seems. Many times; sex is a result of love.

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 02:48 PM







Binlaugh

When humans stop considering differences wrong, we will be able to end all this discriminatory dialogue and reactions.

It is okay not to be the same as others.

And being gay hurts no one.

So naturally being gay is okay and should be allowed all rights that all other humans have.



likewise, incest 'hurts' noone either if it is consentual

I guess we should be prepared to have uncle dads and aunty moms eventually, or perhaps we will totally get rid of the unfair family labels and gender recognition altogether...


How did we all know that was coming?...lol

Incest does hurt. But I guess Christians don't know that since they believe in it. Their bible starts with it.

And incestuous beginning to man and they claim moral superiorityslaphead



please explain how RESPONSIBLE incestuous sex is hurtful?


Are you saying that you think people who engage in gay sex have underlying issues that cause that, yet you're ok with people who engage in incestuous sex are completely fine?



lol. No.

I mentioned nothing here about whether Im 'ok' with incestuous sex. I am pointing out some things that proponents of same sex marriage seem to avoid and rarely have an honest answer to.

If all consenting adults should be permitted to be married, why do we not allow incestuous marriages?

Is it because of fear of deformed children? Well, dna advances are able to test for recessive genes in the potential parents. It can be done with the blood test often required for the license, to make sure that risk is minimal. And non related spouses arent required to prove they dont have recessive genes so that may be discriminatory. So we could just include the test with all applicants for marriage. Problem solved.


so , with the, 'the children might be deformed' argument out of the way,, why do you think people would possibly not accept, condone, and equate to any other relationship, that of a loving grown father and his loving grown daughter?





Like I said it is false rhetoric designed to equate the similarity of "gayness" to an unhealthy relationship, in other words demonize it.

It is false rhetoric.

It really makes the ones who use it look bad.



its not false just because noone has an answer

and who determines what is 'unhealthy'

why is one persons definition any more or less reasonable than the other

as I stated, IF you have two consenting adults who are in LOVE and responsible, why should it be said they are unhealthy just because they are related?

why should they be denied the right to marry?

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 02:49 PM




I would like to thank all the people here that are opened hearted as well as minded to know that Homosexuality is noting more than a varience of naure.

I'm sadden by the ones who reside in a prejudice point of view and feel that people like myself are not entitled or worthy of marriage (in a church) and are not capibale of loving the same gender.


I too am saddened with those who would oppose two people in love regardless of gender. The nice thing is its a minority on this thread that are like that and not the majority.



I dont oppose being 'in love'

I oppose certain SEXUAL behaviors,,,


Well at least sexual behaviours between gay couples it seems. Many times; sex is a result of love.


thats just the topic of the thread

there are plenty of sexual behaviors I find inappropriate

such as ADULTERY, and INCEST, and PEDOPHILIA

but this topic deals merely with sex between consenting adults which would eliminate pedophilia, but put adultery and incest and homosexual activity in the same box,,,

luv2roknroll's photo
Thu 11/03/11 02:52 PM





only if Jon joinsrofl


I'm sure he will if you ask nicely.....rofl .....he will bring the paddle!!:banana:


Did I just hear someone say, "if you ask nicely, he will bring the paddle???? :thumbsup:
Dang,

Cant even joke around in here.scared

You guys are on a warpath!surprised laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Yep, this is a touchy subject.
Fine,

im outta here.

Later!

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Thu 11/03/11 02:56 PM



I would like to thank all the people here that are opened hearted as well as minded to know that Homosexuality is noting more than a varience of naure.

I'm sadden by the ones who reside in a prejudice point of view and feel that people like myself are not entitled or worthy of marriage (in a church) and are not capibale of loving the same gender.


I too am saddened with those who would oppose two people in love regardless of gender. The nice thing is its a minority on this thread that are like that and not the majority.



I dont oppose being 'in love'

I oppose certain SEXUAL behaviors,,,


Fortunately, people do not have to get your permission to have sex. So, while you may oppose those sexual behaviors, that won't affect other people.

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Thu 11/03/11 03:01 PM






Binlaugh

When humans stop considering differences wrong, we will be able to end all this discriminatory dialogue and reactions.

It is okay not to be the same as others.

And being gay hurts no one.

So naturally being gay is okay and should be allowed all rights that all other humans have.



likewise, incest 'hurts' noone either if it is consentual

I guess we should be prepared to have uncle dads and aunty moms eventually, or perhaps we will totally get rid of the unfair family labels and gender recognition altogether...


How did we all know that was coming?...lol

Incest does hurt. But I guess Christians don't know that since they believe in it. Their bible starts with it.

And incestuous beginning to man and they claim moral superiorityslaphead



please explain how RESPONSIBLE incestuous sex is hurtful?


Are you saying that you think people who engage in gay sex have underlying issues that cause that, yet you're ok with people who engage in incestuous sex are completely fine?



lol. No.

I mentioned nothing here about whether Im 'ok' with incestuous sex. I am pointing out some things that proponents of same sex marriage seem to avoid and rarely have an honest answer to.

If all consenting adults should be permitted to be married, why do we not allow incestuous marriages?

Is it because of fear of deformed children? Well, dna advances are able to test for recessive genes in the potential parents. It can be done with the blood test often required for the license, to make sure that risk is minimal. And non related spouses arent required to prove they dont have recessive genes so that may be discriminatory. So we could just include the test with all applicants for marriage. Problem solved.


so , with the, 'the children might be deformed' argument out of the way,, why do you think people would possibly not accept, condone, and equate to any other relationship, that of a loving grown father and his loving grown daughter?





Wiki says marriages between 1st and 2nd cousins account for 10% of marriages worldwide...

Plus, those are known stats. It would not be hard for a brother and sister or a male and female cousin to lie...A same sex couple might have a harder time hiding the fact that they were same a sex couple wishing to marry...Know what I mean Harmony?