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might be less Strife and War if we kept out of the PERSONAL Business of other People! I wish we could. But the law often is made to do just that, get INVOLVED with their personal business and promote and encourage and legally sanction it. Ms Harmony, May I suggest you look up some of the laws. ALOT of laws were put in place years(like 100's) ago. Sodomy is against the law in many states. Yet from what I see it is generally accepted by the puritan community if it is consensual between a husband and wife. But yet is forbidden and frowned upon if by someone of the same gender. This world would have a whole lot more peace if people would just accept things they do not understand, and may not agree with. If an act happens between two consenting adults in the privacy of their own homes, then I believe NOONE has the right to try and dictate if it is right or wrong. No matter my personal belief, I feel everyone should be allowed the chance to try and achieve their own level of happiness. If I do not agree with them, then I will simply not involve myself in it. As long as it is not illegal (which again some states do still have some really odd laws on the books if you research them)and it is between consenting adults---Then LET THEM BE!! I already understand the laws and the argument. There actually isnt a law that says same sex people CANT marry, but the law that was created just stated that those who marry must be an unrelated male and female. My guess as to why such stipulation was made was to avoid disrupting the family dynamic of a man and woman who create a child and then become mother and father whose children become siblings. the marital definition was a way to make the BEST POSSIBLE foundation for the children of our community. I dont think it was even meant as a way to validate any consenting adults choice of relationship as much as it was a way to set a foundation for families. But now everyone wants that 'validation' by the government of their personal choice of relationship. and the sentiment that keeps being repeated about it being the business of consenting adults, re affirms my position that we will someday have children being raised by uncle dads and aunt moms and then, eventually, we will get rid of our family titles altogether and just call each other by our first names,,lol but, so goes human desire,,, |
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might be less Strife and War if we kept out of the PERSONAL Business of other People! I wish we could. But the law often is made to do just that, get INVOLVED with their personal business and promote and encourage and legally sanction it. Ms Harmony, May I suggest you look up some of the laws. ALOT of laws were put in place years(like 100's) ago. Sodomy is against the law in many states. Yet from what I see it is generally accepted by the puritan community if it is consensual between a husband and wife. But yet is forbidden and frowned upon if by someone of the same gender. This world would have a whole lot more peace if people would just accept things they do not understand, and may not agree with. If an act happens between two consenting adults in the privacy of their own homes, then I believe NOONE has the right to try and dictate if it is right or wrong. No matter my personal belief, I feel everyone should be allowed the chance to try and achieve their own level of happiness. If I do not agree with them, then I will simply not involve myself in it. As long as it is not illegal (which again some states do still have some really odd laws on the books if you research them)and it is between consenting adults---Then LET THEM BE!! Hallelujah sister!!!  Thank you , I have a real problem with people who feel the need to PROJECT their beliefs on others. but arent we all 'projecting' opinions and beliefs? even the ones projecting how they feel about others who project?...lol |
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Sharing what you believe about how YOU should live your life is perfectly acceptable.
Trying to tell others or pass laws for others about how they should live their lives is sticking your nose where it does not belong. Let people be who they are as long as they are not hurting you or others. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 11/03/11 04:07 PM
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Sharing what you believe about how YOU should live your life is perfectly acceptable. Trying to tell others or pass laws for others about how they should live their lives is sticking your nose where it does not belong. Let people be who they are as long as they are not hurting you or others. sharing your opinion when a question is asked is also perfectly acceptable if the question doesnt ask about YOU specifically, a general answer is perfectly acceptable as well It IS sticking our nose in to pass laws about relationships, I dont think we have any such active laws , in fact, that deny any adult the right to whatever relationship they want in terms of what the law must CALL the relationship, thats a different matter that doesnt affect the right to have the relationship at all we have no choice but let people be 'who they are', we also have little choice but to have opinions about what people DO and what people SAY |
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Hey - I love this it has a raunchy opinionated kind of feel.
 Can I do a karaoke song? I just feel like singing....  Ah, Freak out! Le freak, c'est chic  Freak out! Ah, freak out! Le freak, c'est chic  Freak out! Has anyone ever seen a monty python sketch called '4 Yorkshire men'?  this is like that crossed with an audition for Jerry Springer.  ...no offence.    |
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Sharing what you believe about how YOU should live your life is perfectly acceptable. Trying to tell others or pass laws for others about how they should live their lives is sticking your nose where it does not belong. Let people be who they are as long as they are not hurting you or others. I agree. This is why it was so nice to see the laws here changed about gay marriages and the fact that they can have marriages in church. I found an interesting article that said diseases world wide were caused because of over population and not because of unhealthy sex. We breed like rabbits as we seriously need to curtail our population. As for sex with gays; hetrosexual people have been having anal and oral sex for years according to the pictures I saw in Pompeii. I don't see what difference it is if a man has anal sex with a woman or another man; just as long as they both get pleasure. JMO |
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pretty sure... i have seen dogs and monkeys hump on each other, but thats not really a gay thing, just a need for sex, and whatever is closest to them... when a puppy humps your leg, do you not tell it no? well, the same thing with gays, they need to be told no... If that were the case, that homosexuals only slept with each other because that's what's closest to them, then they would sleep with members of the opposite sex as well, if they were the "closest thing" to them. I can't even believe you just said that. And you really need to do some research before you start posting things like this. There have been numerous studies involving homosexuality in the animal kingdom. And it doesn't only occur because they only want to hump the closest thing to them. so your a homo expert? why don't you explain why they hump then? do any animals (same sex) try to live and breed with each other? NO they do not... show me one species that does, mrs know it all... Actually, one of the articles posted here did say same sex animals have paired up for life. http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx Animals that live a completely homosexual life can also be found. This occurs especially among birds that will pair with one partner for life, which is the case with geese and ducks. Four to five percent of the couples are homosexual. Single females will lay eggs in a homosexual pair's nest. It has been observced that the homosexual couple are often better at raising the young than heterosexual couples. it would be interesting to know the medical criteria for 'better at raising',,,lol their is not enough known about this to base any conclusion... i have been around ducks and geese, turkeys, all sorts of animals all my life, and have never seen anything like this... gays to to special lengths to legitimize their behavior...so it is "normal" because someone thought they saw a gay duck? hahahahahahahahah You asked for someone to show animals who have done what you say they don't do. I did that with this article. It's obvious that nothing anyone shows you is not going to change your mind, no matter what it says. So why not just say you're never going to believe any research whatsoever that shoes homosexual behavior in nature? you showed me what you think is the truth, and thank you, but i really don't think they have studied it enough to come to any conclusion... being gay is about the sex, not about love... do these geese and ducks have gay butt sex? i don't think they do... lots of animals get together for safety reasons, not because they want sex with each other.... Did you even bother to read the article? It also talks about same sex animals having sex with each other. a monkey will hump a knothole in a tree if it gets the urge... he just never learned what to do with it yet... whats your point? Wait.. in one post, you ask if these animals have sex. When it's shown that they do, you pass it off as them not having learned what to do yet? Once again, did you actually read the article? Why do you keep contradicting yourself? I guess it goes back to what I said earlier about no matter what is shown to you, you're going to make up excuses as to why animals are not showing homosexual behavior in nature. "attraction" to them, it is nothing like that... they (the animals) are just following an instinctive urge to put there willie in something. they have no one to teach about procreation like we have, with our parents, schools, what we see on TV. they just are following a preset condition that tells them to hump something. basically, they are an evolutionary dead end if they do not figure out what to do with their willie, rather where to put it correctly. |
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Sharing what you believe about how YOU should live your life is perfectly acceptable. Trying to tell others or pass laws for others about how they should live their lives is sticking your nose where it does not belong. Let people be who they are as long as they are not hurting you or others. I agree. This is why it was so nice to see the laws here changed about gay marriages and the fact that they can have marriages in church. I found an interesting article that said diseases world wide were caused because of over population and not because of unhealthy sex. We breed like rabbits as we seriously need to curtail our population. As for sex with gays; hetrosexual people have been having anal and oral sex for years according to the pictures I saw in Pompeii. I don't see what difference it is if a man has anal sex with a woman or another man; just as long as they both get pleasure. JMO I would have really liked to have written that post. 
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 11/03/11 04:26 PM
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The whole rule about homosexual activity comes from ancient aliens who tampered with the DNA of locals and created a new species of humans for slaves.
They wanted the slaves to reproduce as they had been designed to, with Male and female, so they would have a large work force. Same sex encounters don't produce slaves for the empire. There, now you know the truth. |
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I guess the best way to go about it is let them be married (but there would have to be another word for it, it cannot be called marriage)and couldn't be done in a church..the taxes and everything that goes with it could be the same. Right now I think those are the biggest issues with this becoming legal around the country. Take time and re-read your post!...."LET" them get married!!! OMG!! Ok i re-read it and I couldn't word that any better the second time around so if you can't fully grasp what I was trying to say I'm sorry..I was just pointing out the biggest problem that gays have with the whole marriage thing.7 How would you feel if someone, anyone, told you they would "let" you get married, but not in a church...I'm sorry you don't get it.....Especially the part about how it is not yours to decide!!!! wouldn't bother me in the slightest... churches have their protocol, and why should anyone say that it is wrong for a church to believe in what it believes? and the whole point is getting married, not where it is at... all of you are saying people are wrong for what they believe, and you seem to think their is only one answer, yours...so let me ask you this, even though i already know the answer... am i wrong for thinking being gay is wrong? You're missing the point...Not how would you feel if the church said no, how would you feel if you neighbor, or your work associate said no!  they are people to, they have a right to their opinion... |
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nope, cant say that I do I was asking why sibling marriage shouldnt be LEGAL on the same grounds that homosexual marriage should,,,, I still don't see what incest has to do with homosexuality. |
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Sharing what you believe about how YOU should live your life is perfectly acceptable. Trying to tell others or pass laws for others about how they should live their lives is sticking your nose where it does not belong. Let people be who they are as long as they are not hurting you or others. I agree. This is why it was so nice to see the laws here changed about gay marriages and the fact that they can have marriages in church. I found an interesting article that said diseases world wide were caused because of over population and not because of unhealthy sex. We breed like rabbits as we seriously need to curtail our population. As for sex with gays; hetrosexual people have been having anal and oral sex for years according to the pictures I saw in Pompeii. I don't see what difference it is if a man has anal sex with a woman or another man; just as long as they both get pleasure. JMO I would have really liked to have written that post. Thanks my dear; you are too kind. 
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nope, cant say that I do I was asking why sibling marriage shouldnt be LEGAL on the same grounds that homosexual marriage should,,,, I still don't see what incest has to do with homosexuality. you were talking about freedoms and rights to be happy... if a brother and sister love each other, what right do you have to keep them from getting married? |
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you can put any label on it you want, it still does not change the fact that just because you say it is an "attraction" to them, it is nothing like that... they (the animals) are just following an instinctive urge to put there willie in something. they have no one to teach about procreation like we have, with our parents, schools, what we see on TV. they just are following a preset condition that tells them to hump something. basically, they are an evolutionary dead end if they do not figure out what to do with their willie, rather where to put it correctly. You can reject any research you want, but that doesn't necessarily make it not true.  You asked certain questions. I showed you an article about research that had been done that showed that animals both pair up for life with the same sex and have sex with the same sex. If you choose to ignore research, that's all up to you. You will ignore anything to that shows animals engage in homosexual behavior because of the way you feel about homosexuality. |
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Edited by
singmesweet
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Thu 11/03/11 04:36 PM
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nope, cant say that I do I was asking why sibling marriage shouldnt be LEGAL on the same grounds that homosexual marriage should,,,, I still don't see what incest has to do with homosexuality. you were talking about freedoms and rights to be happy... if a brother and sister love each other, what right do you have to keep them from getting married? You're going to argue for incest now? You're comparing apples to oranges, but alright. Homosexual and heterosexual marriage compare much more, as they're both two consenting, non-related adults. |
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nope, cant say that I do I was asking why sibling marriage shouldnt be LEGAL on the same grounds that homosexual marriage should,,,, I still don't see what incest has to do with homosexuality. you were talking about freedoms and rights to be happy... if a brother and sister love each other, what right do you have to keep them from getting married? You're going to argue for incest now? You're comparing apples to oranges, but alright. Homosexual and heterosexual marriage compare much more, as they're both two consenting, non-related adults. but both heterosexual and homosexual relationships involve conseting adults, non related is a status some of society insists upon just as some of society insisted they both be over a SPECIFIC age just as some of society insisted they be opposite gender the debate is about the 'requirements' , one of which is that they be non related another that they be opposite gender so why is one requirement discriminatory and not the other if we are talking about consenting adults? |
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nope, because those types of decisions can change,,, we should continue to encourage men and women to commit to each other for the sake of our community and each new generation of children that comes out of such unions,,, ha. 'for the sake of our community.' like it's in great condition or something. i'm pretty sure that those against homosexual sex use 'god' as their main reason. you're just trying not to bring it up. why would you deny someone the right to get married just because you don't like what they're doing in bed? if you don't like it, then don't do it. the end. don't stand in the way of their happiness. [although considering you're bi, i'm sure you'd like it. your god just won't let you. :p] marriage is not a 'right' , rights dont carry pre requisites,, why do people insist upon being 'married' if not doing so doesnt stop them from being together the way they want to there are no laws against homosexual relationships, there is just no legal support and encouragement of homosexual SEX A lot of gay couples have children, and property and legal marriage has a lot of legal benefits for couples. Insurance, inheritance, responsibility etc. yes, here is where i have big problem with them, if they are not be attrected to the opposite sex then, they don't have the right to want what comes from two opposite sex (which is children) if they can not produce for themself, then they should live without it.... Well, shouldn't that be the same for hetrosexual couples too? If they can't have children the natural way; they should not be able to adopt either. Fair is fair. pls always take time to read a post, before you type... |
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Edited by
KylieWylie
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Thu 11/03/11 04:55 PM
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they (the animals) are just following an instinctive urge to put there willie in something. they have no one to teach about procreation like we have, with our parents, schools, what we see on TV. they just are following a preset condition that tells them to hump something. so by this, you are saying that heterosexuality is something that is learned? this makes no sense. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 11/03/11 05:08 PM
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they (the animals) are just following an instinctive urge to put there willie in something. they have no one to teach about procreation like we have, with our parents, schools, what we see on TV. they just are following a preset condition that tells them to hump something. so by this, you are saying that heterosexuality is something that is learned? this makes no sense. Kylie, heterosexuality is a natural human instinct , there to keep the species alive however, the mechanics do need to be learned, and many people who are sexual still have no clue of how the mechanics really work or they wouldnt differentiate sexual satisfaction by gender,,, but thats another topic,, homosexuality is a deviation from that natural instinct,,, |
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nope, cant say that I do I was asking why sibling marriage shouldnt be LEGAL on the same grounds that homosexual marriage should,,,, I still don't see what incest has to do with homosexuality. you were talking about freedoms and rights to be happy... if a brother and sister love each other, what right do you have to keep them from getting married? You're going to argue for incest now? You're comparing apples to oranges, but alright. Homosexual and heterosexual marriage compare much more, as they're both two consenting, non-related adults. but both heterosexual and homosexual relationships involve conseting adults, non related is a status some of society insists upon just as some of society insisted they both be over a SPECIFIC age just as some of society insisted they be opposite gender the debate is about the 'requirements' , one of which is that they be non related another that they be opposite gender so why is one requirement discriminatory and not the other if we are talking about consenting adults? Perhaps you should discuss this with those who have made laws making incest illegal and get back to us with the details? |
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