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Topic: People Who Contact Me....
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Sun 08/14/11 11:24 AM


You mean like those who can't tell the difference between you're and your? :wink:


Exactly. Or the ubiquitous "apostrophe-in-a-plural" construction. It's third grade stuff. Every few months there's something on the news about how the American Public School System is 238% behind Sweden or somebody. And I look at a few American profiles and I go, Yup, they're right again."


I don't think there's any problem with pointing out things like that in a generic way. That's not being mean. You haven't forced them to not be able to tell the difference between two different words.


I've always believed that, in a written medium, we need to make our messages as clear and comprehensible as possible. But there are a significant number of posts here (and on every other site I've tried) where I simply have no idea what the person is trying to say. Sometimes it's textspeak, sometimes it's because it's someone from another country with little grasp of English, sometimes it's just someone with no ability to write a coherent sentence. Either way, it hampers communication. And communication is the key to getting to know somebody.


well

that's ur thing tho

I think we will all have a certain degree of tolerance for that kind of stuff (or not)

some more than others to our liking but I wouldn't be judgmental as to the degree to which it is a priority to someone else

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Sun 08/14/11 11:24 AM


You mean like those who can't tell the difference between you're and your? :wink:


Exactly. Or the ubiquitous "apostrophe-in-a-plural" construction. It's third grade stuff. Every few months there's something on the news about how the American Public School System is 238% behind Sweden or somebody. And I look at a few American profiles and I go, Yup, they're right again."


I don't think there's any problem with pointing out things like that in a generic way. That's not being mean. You haven't forced them to not be able to tell the difference between two different words.


I've always believed that, in a written medium, we need to make our messages as clear and comprehensible as possible. But there are a significant number of posts here (and on every other site I've tried) where I simply have no idea what the person is trying to say. Sometimes it's textspeak, sometimes it's because it's someone from another country with little grasp of English, sometimes it's just someone with no ability to write a coherent sentence. Either way, it hampers communication. And communication is the key to getting to know somebody.



The way I see it, if someone is offended by the misuse of words, they have a little bit to work on in order to learn the correct use. The misuse of apostrophes shows itself here all the time as well. Honestly, it's not very hard to learn these things.

I don't get the text speak stuff being used here. It makes me feel like I'm talking to a teenager. Then again, I don't even type like that in texts.

But yes, when people are communicating via forums such as these, the way they write is important whether they admit it or not. Horrible writing does give a bad first impression.

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Sun 08/14/11 11:28 AM



You mean like those who can't tell the difference between you're and your? :wink:


Exactly. Or the ubiquitous "apostrophe-in-a-plural" construction. It's third grade stuff. Every few months there's something on the news about how the American Public School System is 238% behind Sweden or somebody. And I look at a few American profiles and I go, Yup, they're right again."


I don't think there's any problem with pointing out things like that in a generic way. That's not being mean. You haven't forced them to not be able to tell the difference between two different words.


I've always believed that, in a written medium, we need to make our messages as clear and comprehensible as possible. But there are a significant number of posts here (and on every other site I've tried) where I simply have no idea what the person is trying to say. Sometimes it's textspeak, sometimes it's because it's someone from another country with little grasp of English, sometimes it's just someone with no ability to write a coherent sentence. Either way, it hampers communication. And communication is the key to getting to know somebody.



The way I see it, if someone is offended by the misuse of words, they have a little bit to work on in order to learn the correct use. The misuse of apostrophes shows itself here all the time as well. Honestly, it's not very hard to learn these things.

I don't get the text speak stuff being used here. It makes me feel like I'm talking to a teenager. Then again, I don't even type like that in texts.

But yes, when people are communicating via forums such as these, the way they write is important whether they admit it or not. Horrible writing does give a bad first impression.


it doesn't to me

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Sun 08/14/11 11:30 AM




I rarely hear from anyone who actually has anything to say, or the literacy skills to say it.


It doesn't take much of a vocabulary to describe your behavior. You're mean spirited, cynical, bitter, condescending, lonely, and your ego is 5 sizes larger than it should be. Have you ever spent the day looking at the positive qualities of people you meet? Have you ever created a thread complimenting other profiles, instead of putting them down? Have you recently gone out of your way to do something kind hearted for another human being? The world can be an ugly place, but even on a farm full of cow manure, pretty things grow.




I disagree with this, and think its unfair. People jump to conclusions all the time on here about motives behind actual words rather than looking at the actual words. I think its too bad really.

Of your list, possibly 'cynical' is true, and I beleive he has called himself that. The rest...we will never know, because rather than getting to know him in person, we have only the actual words, which have not communicated more than, flatly, what he is looking for, for himself.


I'd second this, klc!

And having spoken to Lex in private emails and FB, I find him to be sarcastically funny, sharp as a tack, and genuinely excited about things he likes.



See, that's the difference between someone taking the time to dig deeper into a person's mind, vs. just overreacting to a few surface-level words that may or may not be intended to mean what the overreactor blindly assumes them to mean.

Subtlety, irony, humor, are all completely lost on some people. It's not hard to figure out who they are.

And, again, I just don't see it as my problem. If it gets to the point where I have to tiptoe around, in everything I write, then I might as well stop writing. Because no matter how innocuous a sentence might seem, there is probably someone out there who can devise a way to be offended by it.

I have yet to send anyone out with a gun to hold up to the head of people, to force them to read what I write.

Yes, I have thought about it.

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Sun 08/14/11 11:31 AM
Sweetestgirl, I was speaking for myself, not you. You, of course can have your own opinion.

I can overlook some stuff, but if the typing is so bad that I have difficulty understanding what they're saying, or they abbreviate more words than not, it's hard to look past that. Especially when the main form of contact is writing.

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Sun 08/14/11 11:37 AM
sometimes by looking at the context of the post i can figure out what the poster is trying to say. yet i do interpret it by my own standards. there are those posts that could have several meanings. like the phrase don't stop. add a comma and it becomes; don't, stop. one meaning to continue, and the other to cease and desist. english can be a difficult language to learn. communication is indeed key drinker i have adopted the habit if not capitalizing. i also don't use a period at the end of the last sentence i post

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Sun 08/14/11 11:44 AM

sometimes by looking at the context of the post i can figure out what the poster is trying to say. yet i do interpret it by my own standards. there are those posts that could have several meanings. like the phrase don't stop. add a comma and it becomes; don't, stop. one meaning to continue, and the other to cease and desist. english can be a difficult language to learn. communication is indeed key drinker i have adopted the habit if not capitalizing. i also don't use a period at the end of the last sentence i post


Someone I had chatted with recently never used question marks. Half the time, his "questions" seemed like statements and he'd get annoyed that they weren't answered. I suggested using question marks and he got mad, saying no one had ever had an issue with it before.

So yeah, punctuation does help when getting your point across at times.

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Sun 08/14/11 11:46 AM

Sweetestgirl, I was speaking for myself, not you. You, of course can have your own opinion.

I can overlook some stuff, but if the typing is so bad that I have difficulty understanding what they're saying, or they abbreviate more words than not, it's hard to look past that. Especially when the main form of contact is writing.


yes - I was also speaking only for myself as we all have our individual parameters

sorry if u misunderstood

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Sun 08/14/11 11:49 AM
:thumbsup:

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Sun 08/14/11 11:50 AM


sometimes by looking at the context of the post i can figure out what the poster is trying to say. yet i do interpret it by my own standards. there are those posts that could have several meanings. like the phrase don't stop. add a comma and it becomes; don't, stop. one meaning to continue, and the other to cease and desist. english can be a difficult language to learn. communication is indeed key drinker i have adopted the habit if not capitalizing. i also don't use a period at the end of the last sentence i post


Someone I had chatted with recently never used question marks. Half the time, his "questions" seemed like statements and he'd get annoyed that they weren't answered. I suggested using question marks and he got mad, saying no one had ever had an issue with it before.

So yeah, punctuation does help when getting your point across at times.


well if a person uses certain words (how, why) in the sentence i can usually tell it's a question. if i pay attention i can usually figure out if they are being inquisitive, stating something, or being sarcastic

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Sun 08/14/11 11:51 AM



sometimes by looking at the context of the post i can figure out what the poster is trying to say. yet i do interpret it by my own standards. there are those posts that could have several meanings. like the phrase don't stop. add a comma and it becomes; don't, stop. one meaning to continue, and the other to cease and desist. english can be a difficult language to learn. communication is indeed key drinker i have adopted the habit if not capitalizing. i also don't use a period at the end of the last sentence i post


Someone I had chatted with recently never used question marks. Half the time, his "questions" seemed like statements and he'd get annoyed that they weren't answered. I suggested using question marks and he got mad, saying no one had ever had an issue with it before.

So yeah, punctuation does help when getting your point across at times.


well if a person uses certain words (how, why) in the sentence i can usually tell it's a question. if i pay attention i can usually figure out if they are being inquisitive, stating something, or being sarcastic


Yes, sometimes it is easy to tell whether something is a question or not. Other times, not so much, which is why I said question marks help.

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Sun 08/14/11 11:53 AM

Yes, sometimes it is easy to tell whether something is a question or not. Other times, not so much, which is why I said question marks help.

sheesh nevermind

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Sun 08/14/11 12:02 PM
Alrighty. laugh

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Sun 08/14/11 12:02 PM

sometimes by looking at the context of the post i can figure out what the poster is trying to say. yet i do interpret it by my own standards. there are those posts that could have several meanings. like the phrase don't stop. add a comma and it becomes; don't, stop. one meaning to continue, and the other to cease and desist. english can be a difficult language to learn. communication is indeed key drinker i have adopted the habit if not capitalizing. i also don't use a period at the end of the last sentence i post
And people here love you anyway....You are an exceptional human being. Bless you ! It seems obvious from your posts that you have a warmth and heart that others would do well to imitateflowerforyou

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Sun 08/14/11 12:05 PM

Sweetestgirl, I was speaking for myself, not you. You, of course can have your own opinion.

I can overlook some stuff, but if the typing is so bad that I have difficulty understanding what they're saying, or they abbreviate more words than not, it's hard to look past that. Especially when the main form of contact is writing.


I was having a discussion about this on a friend FB page, as he's the type who likes to demolish the English language, even in written format. He seems to think it's some form of heightened genius, to minimize letters and words, and I find it to be just plain laziness.

I've spent 28 years deciphering my dad's handwriting and spelling, and no matter how funny that can be, have no interest in it for a potential mate.

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Sun 08/14/11 12:06 PM
I just don't have the patience to decipher what someone is saying if it's that difficult.

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Sun 08/14/11 12:07 PM


Yes, sometimes it is easy to tell whether something is a question or not. Other times, not so much, which is why I said question marks help.

sheesh nevermind

no punctuation marks, but you understood. that's my point drinker

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Sun 08/14/11 12:08 PM


sometimes by looking at the context of the post i can figure out what the poster is trying to say. yet i do interpret it by my own standards. there are those posts that could have several meanings. like the phrase don't stop. add a comma and it becomes; don't, stop. one meaning to continue, and the other to cease and desist. english can be a difficult language to learn. communication is indeed key drinker i have adopted the habit if not capitalizing. i also don't use a period at the end of the last sentence i post


Someone I had chatted with recently never used question marks. Half the time, his "questions" seemed like statements and he'd get annoyed that they weren't answered. I suggested using question marks and he got mad, saying no one had ever had an issue with it before.

So yeah, punctuation does help when getting your point across at times.


Probably about the most interesting and useful thing I thought Spanish was good for was their use of punctuation before the start of a sentence so one knew if it was a question, or an exclamation. That actually makes sense, because some sentences can be so subtle in their questioning, that you have to re-read it and give it that twist.

Other then that, I really didn't care for being forced to learn it. laugh

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Sun 08/14/11 12:08 PM
Edited by EquusDancer on Sun 08/14/11 12:08 PM
Grr

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Sun 08/14/11 12:10 PM



Yes, sometimes it is easy to tell whether something is a question or not. Other times, not so much, which is why I said question marks help.

sheesh nevermind

no punctuation marks, but you understood. that's my point drinker


And I already agreed that sometimes it is easy enough to understand. Of course, that's not all the time.

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