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BTW, please read the article I provided describing what happened! I think you will be enlightened as to the "explosions" by a historical account of a similar air disaster!
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That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not. There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that. So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda. Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda. It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this. No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence. It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't. I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time. Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism. I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth? If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case. Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....." Understand what I mean? If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it? Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think. do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. no, i cannot say what people heard or didn't hear. I can only draw my conclusions by the evidence at hand. I did some research on it and somewhat understand the "pancaking" effect. I also know that concrete being crushed makes a loud booming noise, like an explosion. you are correct about there not being a building collapsing like that, because no other buildings over 100 stories tall has ever been hit by a fully fueled 747. so there is no way to compare it. There's been people BTW who have claimed it impossible to fly a plane directly into the building like that incidentally, at least a plane that size. You may not believe that, but that is something to consider here. Ok but tower 7 came down too, and all it had was just a small fire. There is no way it makes any sense whatsoever that THAT would collapse just from that alone. As for the concrete, it doesn't factor in that you can actually see fire from the individual sections exploding as the thing came down. That indicates me to some type of explosives were present. Ok here is some facts. Back in 1945 a B-25 Mitchell flew into the Empire State building. it is still standing although a ten ton airplane hit it on accident. http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/Empire_State_building_crash.htm  That was ONE 10 ton aircraft that for the most part was unloaded. The WTC was hit by FOUR jets each weighing in excess of 73 tons each and they were flying faster than a B-25 could. The structural damage was more than enough to allow the remaining structure to weaken and fall on itself. If your math or grasp of physics is reasonable you would know that the WTC was hit with a LOT more firepower from jet airliners. A 737 is a smaller jumbo jet fully laden at takeoff is about 73 tons. A 747 fully laden is around 488 tons. Show me any structure that could survive a raw impact that large! Bear in mind those jets can reach just below super sonic speeds. In a dive they can break the sound barrier but they are designed to fly just below the speed of sound. A fully laden 18 wheel truck is about 35 tons. Hell, several 500 pound iron bombs BARELY come close to that much inertial damage alone! Our largest bunker buster bomb is not even the equivalent. Buildings are surprisingly tough but they do have limits! Then when you factor in the fuel they are carrying they are moving bombs\missles. |
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thats why theres an owl (molech) on every dollar bill.look up bohemian groove.thats why the washington monument stands 555 ft tall buried 111 feet underground.thats why dept of transportation has 666 logo.thats why the disney logo has built in 666.thats why walt had his head cut off and frozen.thats why theres a pentagram in washington dc layout.thats why washington sits like baphomet.thats why the pentagon is the only 5 sided building.thats why you have an eye logo for your tv station.thats why you never hear any satanic stuff on the news.thats why every barcode has 666 built into them.thats why everybody has to go through body scanners and their buying information is tracked and their phones are tapped.thats why yep busted right open  did you get stuck on the dollar bill? |
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One time I had a lot of respect for President Clinton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7-XfE7KcU |
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That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not. There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that. So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda. Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda. It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this. No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence. It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't. I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time. Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism. I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth? If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case. Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....." Understand what I mean? If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it? Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think. do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also. Oh really? This would disagree with you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huq0EM3aGkI ? how does it disagree? in fact, it supports us more than anything... you can clearly see the top of the building falling to the south, instead of straight down like the truthers always say it does. to me, those lights looked like electrical shorting out more than anything else. You can CLEARLY see the explosions in the smoke. That's how it disagrees. There are several flashes, they are a bit more noticeable the faster the thing is coming down. |
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That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not. There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that. So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda. Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda. It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this. No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence. It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't. I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time. Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism. I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth? If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case. Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....." Understand what I mean? If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it? Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think. do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also. Oh really? This would disagree with you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huq0EM3aGkI ? how does it disagree? in fact, it supports us more than anything... you can clearly see the top of the building falling to the south, instead of straight down like the truthers always say it does. to me, those lights looked like electrical shorting out more than anything else. You can CLEARLY see the explosions in the smoke. That's how it disagrees. There are several flashes, they are a bit more noticeable the faster the thing is coming down. i'll watch it again, but i really didn't see much evidence there. |
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try this video instead..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacYjsS-g6k |
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You mention building 7. It wasn't just the fire (which was fueled by diesel fuel that was stored in the building for back up generators) that burned for 8 hours but also the structure was badly damaged from the collapse of the WTC. If you watched the video it explains it. They knew the building was going to collapse. The firefighters on the ground knew. There is video of them saying its gonna collapse We can go over that too.....Silverstein saying to "pull" the towers. That's a whole other thing unto itself. Then you had the BBC reporting on the tower falling before it actually did.......with their feed going out just as it "really" happened. Really strange things. No he said to pull it as in pull out. That isn't a term for towers coming down. Again this is addressed in the video. |
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You can CLEARLY see the explosions in the smoke. That's how it disagrees. There are several flashes, they are a bit more noticeable the faster the thing is coming down. Its not explosions. Its air that is inside the building being forced out by the collapse above it. Air is a gas and it takes up space. When that space is gone it has to move somewhere else. Even the people from Loose Change don't even have that argument in their videos anymore. You apparently didn't watch the video we posted as it addresses everything you have posted already. |
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You mention building 7. It wasn't just the fire (which was fueled by diesel fuel that was stored in the building for back up generators) that burned for 8 hours but also the structure was badly damaged from the collapse of the WTC. If you watched the video it explains it. They knew the building was going to collapse. The firefighters on the ground knew. There is video of them saying its gonna collapse We can go over that too.....Silverstein saying to "pull" the towers. That's a whole other thing unto itself. Then you had the BBC reporting on the tower falling before it actually did.......with their feed going out just as it "really" happened. Really strange things. No he said to pull it as in pull out. That isn't a term for towers coming down. Again this is addressed in the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&feature=related oh by the way the building was constructed of tubes like straws 4 inches thick. just like the titanic owned by jp morgan the wtc collapse was a satanic ritual sacrifice. remember the goat |
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You mention building 7. It wasn't just the fire (which was fueled by diesel fuel that was stored in the building for back up generators) that burned for 8 hours but also the structure was badly damaged from the collapse of the WTC. If you watched the video it explains it. They knew the building was going to collapse. The firefighters on the ground knew. There is video of them saying its gonna collapse We can go over that too.....Silverstein saying to "pull" the towers. That's a whole other thing unto itself. Then you had the BBC reporting on the tower falling before it actually did.......with their feed going out just as it "really" happened. Really strange things. No he said to pull it as in pull out. That isn't a term for towers coming down. Again this is addressed in the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&feature=related oh by the way the building was constructed of tubes like straws 4 inches thick. just like the titanic owned by jp morgan the wtc collapse was a satanic ritual sacrifice. remember the goat yea, they have a video of the devils face in the smoke... and of UFO's watching it fall, too... |
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Edited by
Chazster
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You mention building 7. It wasn't just the fire (which was fueled by diesel fuel that was stored in the building for back up generators) that burned for 8 hours but also the structure was badly damaged from the collapse of the WTC. If you watched the video it explains it. They knew the building was going to collapse. The firefighters on the ground knew. There is video of them saying its gonna collapse We can go over that too.....Silverstein saying to "pull" the towers. That's a whole other thing unto itself. Then you had the BBC reporting on the tower falling before it actually did.......with their feed going out just as it "really" happened. Really strange things. No he said to pull it as in pull out. That isn't a term for towers coming down. Again this is addressed in the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&feature=related oh by the way the building was constructed of tubes like straws 4 inches thick. just like the titanic owned by jp morgan the wtc collapse was a satanic ritual sacrifice. remember the goat Yea still sounds exactly like I said. They can't contain the fire. He doesn't want anymore loss of life so pull out. Then the tower fell after. Its not like it fell right when he said that. Again this is addressed in the video this thread was based on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwqY5gve-ro |
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Edited by
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If the Government is in on it, you think they killed thousands of people so why wouldn't the hesitate in killing the hundreds (I don't even think there are that many) of truthers who would threaten to expose them, if there really was a conspiracy all these people would be dead. Plain and simple. Former FBI chief Ted Gundersen says 9/11 was an inside job http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxPNN-y_c3g |
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All I can say is, I pity you Kleisto. You and I have agreed on other issues in other threads, but on this issue, your mind is completely shut to any argument. I've been known to be a stubborn man. I've even felt so strongly about something that I knew I was right even when I was proven wrong. Hell, I've believed in some pretty absurd stuff in my time. In the end, I had to realize that I bought the B.S. because I was simply looking for something to believe....something to give me a purpose in life.
You know what? The only purpose in life comes from within. Not from what you hear or read or even what you "want" to believe. It comes from learning about yourself, what you want and what makes you happy. This comes from a guy who has had psychic visions and remembered past lives. A guy who has studied environmental science and how Earth's systems interact. Someone who went to college to be an author but found himself working in factories, cooking in restaurants, and wiring houses. A man who has met and talked with authors, actors, politicians, and diplomats. Who choses not to have a religion because of dogma, but who follows a spiritual path of his own after studying a number of religions to just to understand the concept of religion. I've found times when I fell into the conspiracy theory trap. Each time I found the information lacked objectivity. Before I realized that, I believed in the information I was fed. When I questioned it - and my formal major in college was history....writing was my minor - my own research to answer those questions proved my beliefs wrong. No one told me what to believe. I already had a knowledge base that allowed me to understand the information I received from research. I was able to form my own conclusion based on logic and common sense....based on what I had learned and observed in the world around me without being told how to think. So, nobody is going to change your mind. Debating this topic is fruitless. But I don't think you are stupid or ignorant. In fact, I think, based on other topics, you have intelligence, but like me when I was younger, you are looking for a sense of identity....trying to understand who you are in your own eyes. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. Only time will reveal the truth, and that could be 5, 10, maybe 20 years from now. For now, you question what others do not....but do not fail to listen. Even if you do not admit it openly, make note and judge for yourself rather than take it at face value. In time, I think you will understand what I am saying even if you do not agree with it now. That is all I can say because I know when the horse is dead. |
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All I can say is, I pity you Kleisto. You and I have agreed on other issues in other threads, but on this issue, your mind is completely shut to any argument. I've been known to be a stubborn man. I've even felt so strongly about something that I knew I was right even when I was proven wrong. Hell, I've believed in some pretty absurd stuff in my time. In the end, I had to realize that I bought the B.S. because I was simply looking for something to believe....something to give me a purpose in life. You know what? The only purpose in life comes from within. Not from what you hear or read or even what you "want" to believe. It comes from learning about yourself, what you want and what makes you happy. This comes from a guy who has had psychic visions and remembered past lives. A guy who has studied environmental science and how Earth's systems interact. Someone who went to college to be an author but found himself working in factories, cooking in restaurants, and wiring houses. A man who has met and talked with authors, actors, politicians, and diplomats. Who choses not to have a religion because of dogma, but who follows a spiritual path of his own after studying a number of religions to just to understand the concept of religion. I've found times when I fell into the conspiracy theory trap. Each time I found the information lacked objectivity. Before I realized that, I believed in the information I was fed. When I questioned it - and my formal major in college was history....writing was my minor - my own research to answer those questions proved my beliefs wrong. No one told me what to believe. I already had a knowledge base that allowed me to understand the information I received from research. I was able to form my own conclusion based on logic and common sense....based on what I had learned and observed in the world around me without being told how to think. So, nobody is going to change your mind. Debating this topic is fruitless. But I don't think you are stupid or ignorant. In fact, I think, based on other topics, you have intelligence, but like me when I was younger, you are looking for a sense of identity....trying to understand who you are in your own eyes. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. Only time will reveal the truth, and that could be 5, 10, maybe 20 years from now. For now, you question what others do not....but do not fail to listen. Even if you do not admit it openly, make note and judge for yourself rather than take it at face value. In time, I think you will understand what I am saying even if you do not agree with it now. That is all I can say because I know when the horse is dead. yep every night you can see the fema trains lined up only to disappear before morning.time will reveal all soon. to bad we wont be around.eyes wide shut you have.there is only one religion to study and your eyes will be opened. |
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Edited by
DS71
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Wed 08/03/11 12:33 AM
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Honestly, I think Trey Parker and Matt Stone hit it on the head with a South Park episode some years back. They played it for laughs, but it actually makes sense: The conspiracy theories are based on disinformation (such as doctored photos showing the underside of the jets, theories about detonation or the Flight 93 info) gradually "leaked" by our government in a deliberate effort to stimulate the exact response we eventually witnessed from conspiracy theorists. The motivation? To cast doubt as to the reality behind the archtitects of the September 11th attacks in the eyes of the American public and therefore (to some degree) hide in plain sight the embarassing fact that a group of pissed off desert cave dwellers managed to pull off the worst terrorist attack ever perpetrated against the presumably most powerful nation on Earth by manipulating our own flawed system. The only thing worse than the idea that our own government brought the towers down as an excuse to go to war is the truth- that a group of ragged extremist Bin Laden acolytes emasculated us in front of the entire world simply by showing up within our borders and using resources we practically handed to them on a silver platter....and we couldn't do a damned thing about it except stand by and watch becuase we were so hopelessly unprepared.
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All I can say is, I pity you Kleisto. You and I have agreed on other issues in other threads, but on this issue, your mind is completely shut to any argument. I've been known to be a stubborn man. I've even felt so strongly about something that I knew I was right even when I was proven wrong. Hell, I've believed in some pretty absurd stuff in my time. In the end, I had to realize that I bought the B.S. because I was simply looking for something to believe....something to give me a purpose in life. You know what? The only purpose in life comes from within. Not from what you hear or read or even what you "want" to believe. It comes from learning about yourself, what you want and what makes you happy. This comes from a guy who has had psychic visions and remembered past lives. A guy who has studied environmental science and how Earth's systems interact. Someone who went to college to be an author but found himself working in factories, cooking in restaurants, and wiring houses. A man who has met and talked with authors, actors, politicians, and diplomats. Who choses not to have a religion because of dogma, but who follows a spiritual path of his own after studying a number of religions to just to understand the concept of religion. I've found times when I fell into the conspiracy theory trap. Each time I found the information lacked objectivity. Before I realized that, I believed in the information I was fed. When I questioned it - and my formal major in college was history....writing was my minor - my own research to answer those questions proved my beliefs wrong. No one told me what to believe. I already had a knowledge base that allowed me to understand the information I received from research. I was able to form my own conclusion based on logic and common sense....based on what I had learned and observed in the world around me without being told how to think. So, nobody is going to change your mind. Debating this topic is fruitless. But I don't think you are stupid or ignorant. In fact, I think, based on other topics, you have intelligence, but like me when I was younger, you are looking for a sense of identity....trying to understand who you are in your own eyes. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. Only time will reveal the truth, and that could be 5, 10, maybe 20 years from now. For now, you question what others do not....but do not fail to listen. Even if you do not admit it openly, make note and judge for yourself rather than take it at face value. In time, I think you will understand what I am saying even if you do not agree with it now. That is all I can say because I know when the horse is dead. yep every night you can see the fema trains lined up only to disappear before morning.time will reveal all soon. to bad we wont be around.eyes wide shut you have.there is only one religion to study and your eyes will be opened. From your profile, I take it you believe in some form of Christianity. If that's the case, and I don't wanna make this a religious topic in saying it, I agree with action on that, don't think any religion has it right. As for the rest though, it's really not about identity in this case, though in ways I am still figuring out who I am I admit, and in fact the last year or so has changed how I see things (aforementioned religion being one of them) a great deal. But it really isn't about that here. It's about the truth, and finding out what that is, regardless of where it takes me. Ever since I started to find out things about media, government and politics and how they operate and intertwine some 4 and a half years ago or so now, I have questioned what we are told. What passes for truth in this country, and in this world really, is not good enough for me. There are things (such as this topic being discussed here), where the things we are told the truth is just do not add up. As such, I refuse to settle for those things if they don't make sense to me, in favor of things that do. I seek answers, and if the answers given to me aren't good enough, I will seek them somewhere else until I find an answer that is suitable to me and makes sense. I won't take anything less. To do that would be to go back to how I once was, unaware of what was really happening in our country and in our world. I will not do that. So it's not about identifying with anybody, it's about truth and the facts. That's all I want, and it's all I'll accept. |
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What started off these conspiracy theorists? Would it have been the theory that the Government allegedly assassinated their own president back in the 60's? Why lock away all the information until the year 2030 something? Vietnam shows that Governments were prepared to sacrifice tens of thousands of troops to a war that even JFK knew they shouldn't have been involved in!? Was Lydon B. Johnson involved in a conspiracy to murder JFK? A lot of people are convinced he did. Let's break open those long sealed files & see? If not, that in itself propagates any conspiracy. :)
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The reason for sealing Presidential documents is so they will be made public posthumously. It is a term of 50 years. That means any President still alive after that time frame would be at least 89 years old. It's not about hiding the truth, but rather about saving face. In politics, someone is always going to be rubbed the wrong way, so as a courtesy for service done, the documents are sealed to protect the President and his family. A living President could conceivably waive this consideration, though JFK never had such an opportunity. He is one of the few Presidents during the last century to have died before finishing his term in office which makes him stand out more that most, especially given the circumstances.
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i doubt anybody will get it until its too late but here goes.its way bigger than 911.your whole reality system is based on lies.everything that happens is preplanned and shaped towards a goal.you arent free like you think.almost all the stores that you buy from are owned by satanic groups.almost all food products in the restaurants and stores contain massive amounts of msg(to lower your IQ)allowed by the fda.most of your water supply contains fluoride(to lower your IQ)your fillings and shots contain mercury (to lower your IQ)you still dont get it? most of the vitamins and nutrients have been removed from your food (to lower your IQ).from the first president until the last has been raised and prepicked.(not by you).it doesnt matter if your dem or repub or other.they all have the same goals to carry out.this is being done all over the world.they have been in power since babylon.the terrorism adjective is to confine you and track your every move.but you feel safer.very few have understood this.this is to set you up for one world government.one world religion.one world army.the rich familys have always been rich and stay rich they were the ones inside the castle.you are poor and always will be.you go to work everyday and seem to really get nowhere while you dream of becoming rich.they make the rules and you play the game.thats why you can never get ahead.you pay for energy at any price they say and it seems fair.if you dont constantly pay your taxes they take your stuff.its like the casino the dealer always wins.you still think your free?all of the odds are set up against you.you recycle to save the environment as they poison your food and water.but the food says its extra healthy and sugar and fat free.they are lying to you and the fda goes along with it.the pharmaceutical companys own the health food companys and the vitamin companys.most stores and products now have satanic logos but i guess you cant see them.just like the oil companys bought all the electric trolly companys and destroyed them.electric cars work they just dont want you to have them.they want everybody to use gas and oil so they can pull the plug. so you think you are still free? anyone can become president.you were taught in school to give you a false sense of hope.if you do have a business thats growing big they buy you out and then own you.your products cant compete if you cant sell them.walmart buys your products in record amount and lower your price each time.when you resist they drop you and your company goes under.then they buy it at rock bottom prices and take over.every product is a name brand owned by another company. but dont worry your still free.
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