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i doubt anybody will get it until its too late but here goes.its way bigger than 911.your whole reality system is based on lies.everything that happens is preplanned and shaped towards a goal.you arent free like you think.almost all the stores that you buy from are owned by satanic groups.almost all food products in the restaurants and stores contain massive amounts of msg(to lower your IQ)allowed by the fda.most of your water supply contains fluoride(to lower your IQ)your fillings and shots contain mercury (to lower your IQ)you still dont get it? most of the vitamins and nutrients have been removed from your food (to lower your IQ).from the first president until the last has been raised and prepicked.(not by you).it doesnt matter if your dem or repub or other.they all have the same goals to carry out.this is being done all over the world.they have been in power since babylon.the terrorism adjective is to confine you and track your every move.but you feel safer.very few have understood this.this is to set you up for one world government.one world religion.one world army.the rich familys have always been rich and stay rich they were the ones inside the castle.you are poor and always will be.you go to work everyday and seem to really get nowhere while you dream of becoming rich.they make the rules and you play the game.thats why you can never get ahead.you pay for energy at any price they say and it seems fair.if you dont constantly pay your taxes they take your stuff.its like the casino the dealer always wins.you still think your free?all of the odds are set up against you.you recycle to save the environment as they poison your food and water.but the food says its extra healthy and sugar and fat free.they are lying to you and the fda goes along with it.the pharmaceutical companys own the health food companys and the vitamin companys.most stores and products now have satanic logos but i guess you cant see them.just like the oil companys bought all the electric trolly companys and destroyed them.electric cars work they just dont want you to have them.they want everybody to use gas and oil so they can pull the plug. so you think you are still free? anyone can become president.you were taught in school to give you a false sense of hope.if you do have a business thats growing big they buy you out and then own you.your products cant compete if you cant sell them.walmart buys your products in record amount and lower your price each time.when you resist they drop you and your company goes under.then they buy it at rock bottom prices and take over.every product is a name brand owned by another company. but dont worry your still free. You know you may wanna break that up a bit, I'd read it, but it's hard to read when it's one big block like that. |
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i doubt anybody will get it until its too late but here goes. its way bigger than 911. your whole reality system is based on lies. everything that happens is preplanned and shaped towards a goal. you arent free like you think.almost all the stores that you buy from are owned by satanic groups. almost all food products in the restaurants and stores contain massive amounts of msg(to lower your IQ)allowed by the fda. most of your water supply contains fluoride(to lower your IQ)your fillings and shots contain mercury (to lower your IQ)you still dont get it? most of the vitamins and nutrients have been removed from your food (to lower your IQ). from the first president until the last has been raised and prepicked. (not by you). it doesnt matter if your dem or repub or other. they all have the same goals to carry out. this is being done all over the world. they have been in power since babylon. the terrorism adjective is to confine you and track your every move. but you feel safer. very few have understood this. this is to set you up for one world government. one world religion. one world army. the rich familys have always been rich and stay rich they were the ones inside the castle. you are poor and always will be. you go to work everyday and seem to really get nowhere while you dream of becoming rich. they make the rules and you play the game.thats why you can never get ahead. you pay for energy at any price they say and it seems fair. if you dont constantly pay your taxes they take your stuff. its like the casino the dealer always wins. you still think your free? all of the odds are set up against you. you recycle to save the environment as they poison your food and water. but the food says its extra healthy and sugar and fat free. they are lying to you and the fda goes along with it. the pharmaceutical companys own the health food companys and the vitamin companys. most stores and products now have satanic logos but i guess you cant see them. just like the oil companys bought all the electric trolly companys and destroyed them. electric cars work they just dont want you to have them. they want everybody to use gas and oil so they can pull the plug. so you think you are still free? anyone can become president.you were taught in school to give you a false sense of hope. if you do have a business thats growing big they buy you out and then own you. your products cant compete if you cant sell them. walmart buys your products in record amount and lower your price each time. when you resist they drop you and your company goes under.then they buy it at rock bottom prices and take over. every product is a name brand owned by another company. but dont worry your still free. You know you may wanna break that up a bit, I'd read it, but it's hard to read when it's one big block like that. is that better?...lol |
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i doubt anybody will get it until its too late but here goes. its way bigger than 911. your whole reality system is based on lies. everything that happens is preplanned and shaped towards a goal. you arent free like you think.almost all the stores that you buy from are owned by satanic groups. almost all food products in the restaurants and stores contain massive amounts of msg(to lower your IQ)allowed by the fda. most of your water supply contains fluoride(to lower your IQ)your fillings and shots contain mercury (to lower your IQ)you still dont get it? most of the vitamins and nutrients have been removed from your food (to lower your IQ). from the first president until the last has been raised and prepicked. (not by you). it doesnt matter if your dem or repub or other. they all have the same goals to carry out. this is being done all over the world. they have been in power since babylon. the terrorism adjective is to confine you and track your every move. but you feel safer. very few have understood this. this is to set you up for one world government. one world religion. one world army. the rich familys have always been rich and stay rich they were the ones inside the castle. you are poor and always will be. you go to work everyday and seem to really get nowhere while you dream of becoming rich. they make the rules and you play the game.thats why you can never get ahead. you pay for energy at any price they say and it seems fair. if you dont constantly pay your taxes they take your stuff. its like the casino the dealer always wins. you still think your free? all of the odds are set up against you. you recycle to save the environment as they poison your food and water. but the food says its extra healthy and sugar and fat free. they are lying to you and the fda goes along with it. the pharmaceutical companys own the health food companys and the vitamin companys. most stores and products now have satanic logos but i guess you cant see them. just like the oil companys bought all the electric trolly companys and destroyed them. electric cars work they just dont want you to have them. they want everybody to use gas and oil so they can pull the plug. so you think you are still free? anyone can become president.you were taught in school to give you a false sense of hope. if you do have a business thats growing big they buy you out and then own you. your products cant compete if you cant sell them. walmart buys your products in record amount and lower your price each time. when you resist they drop you and your company goes under.then they buy it at rock bottom prices and take over. every product is a name brand owned by another company. but dont worry your still free. You know you may wanna break that up a bit, I'd read it, but it's hard to read when it's one big block like that. is that better?...lol Slightly lol. |
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Edited by
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i doubt anybody will get it until its too late but here goes.its way bigger than 911.your whole reality system is based on lies.everything that happens is preplanned and shaped towards a goal.you arent free like you think.almost all the stores that you buy from are owned by satanic groups.almost all food products in the restaurants and stores contain massive amounts of msg(to lower your IQ)allowed by the fda.most of your water supply contains fluoride(to lower your IQ)your fillings and shots contain mercury (to lower your IQ)you still dont get it? most of the vitamins and nutrients have been removed from your food (to lower your IQ).from the first president until the last has been raised and prepicked.(not by you).it doesnt matter if your dem or repub or other.they all have the same goals to carry out.this is being done all over the world.they have been in power since babylon.the terrorism adjective is to confine you and track your every move.but you feel safer.very few have understood this.this is to set you up for one world government.one world religion.one world army.the rich familys have always been rich and stay rich they were the ones inside the castle.you are poor and always will be.you go to work everyday and seem to really get nowhere while you dream of becoming rich.they make the rules and you play the game.thats why you can never get ahead.you pay for energy at any price they say and it seems fair.if you dont constantly pay your taxes they take your stuff.its like the casino the dealer always wins.you still think your free?all of the odds are set up against you.you recycle to save the environment as they poison your food and water.but the food says its extra healthy and sugar and fat free.they are lying to you and the fda goes along with it.the pharmaceutical companys own the health food companys and the vitamin companys.most stores and products now have satanic logos but i guess you cant see them.just like the oil companys bought all the electric trolly companys and destroyed them.electric cars work they just dont want you to have them.they want everybody to use gas and oil so they can pull the plug. so you think you are still free? anyone can become president.you were taught in school to give you a false sense of hope.if you do have a business thats growing big they buy you out and then own you.your products cant compete if you cant sell them.walmart buys your products in record amount and lower your price each time.when you resist they drop you and your company goes under.then they buy it at rock bottom prices and take over.every product is a name brand owned by another company. but dont worry your still free. This makes no sense at all. Why would the government want dumb people? We would stop being the strongest economic power. We are not strong because of working class(as they outsource more and more) we are strong because of innovation. Also the precious defense budget they covet so highly. If they made us dumb we wouldnt have the best weapons tech. |
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When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. not sure what you researched, but here is a link http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/world-trade-center-collapse.html does the (NIST) National Institute of Standards and Technology have an agenda Probably yes. Anything that is coming from the mainstream, I do not trust initially, because I know how they work. now i know you didn't click on the link, ponder the information, and come up with something real to ponder in response. why the close minded attitude the horse is indeed dead |
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i doubt anybody will get it until its too late but here goes.its way bigger than 911.your whole reality system is based on lies.everything that happens is preplanned and shaped towards a goal.you arent free like you think.almost all the stores that you buy from are owned by satanic groups.almost all food products in the restaurants and stores contain massive amounts of msg(to lower your IQ)allowed by the fda.most of your water supply contains fluoride(to lower your IQ)your fillings and shots contain mercury (to lower your IQ)you still dont get it? most of the vitamins and nutrients have been removed from your food (to lower your IQ).from the first president until the last has been raised and prepicked.(not by you).it doesnt matter if your dem or repub or other.they all have the same goals to carry out.this is being done all over the world.they have been in power since babylon.the terrorism adjective is to confine you and track your every move.but you feel safer.very few have understood this.this is to set you up for one world government.one world religion.one world army.the rich familys have always been rich and stay rich they were the ones inside the castle.you are poor and always will be.you go to work everyday and seem to really get nowhere while you dream of becoming rich.they make the rules and you play the game.thats why you can never get ahead.you pay for energy at any price they say and it seems fair.if you dont constantly pay your taxes they take your stuff.its like the casino the dealer always wins.you still think your free?all of the odds are set up against you.you recycle to save the environment as they poison your food and water.but the food says its extra healthy and sugar and fat free.they are lying to you and the fda goes along with it.the pharmaceutical companys own the health food companys and the vitamin companys.most stores and products now have satanic logos but i guess you cant see them.just like the oil companys bought all the electric trolly companys and destroyed them.electric cars work they just dont want you to have them.they want everybody to use gas and oil so they can pull the plug. so you think you are still free? anyone can become president.you were taught in school to give you a false sense of hope.if you do have a business thats growing big they buy you out and then own you.your products cant compete if you cant sell them.walmart buys your products in record amount and lower your price each time.when you resist they drop you and your company goes under.then they buy it at rock bottom prices and take over.every product is a name brand owned by another company. but dont worry your still free. I can't believe people actually buy into crap like this. During the 1800s, do you know what Britain, France, and Spain accredited for the U.S.'s industrial success? Having the smartest, best educated working class - not a bunch of brain dead zombies as you seem to believe. Secondly, what about all the people who grow their own fruits or vegetables, slaughter their own poultry and livestock, or drink well water? Seems to me they would avoid most of the "mind doping" you profess. What do the conspirators do? Sneak in undercover of darkness to thousands of residences to poison the water and the gardens? How about you get some real, hard scientific evidence to support such claims and without making excuses why you can't because of some conspiracy. That's just a cop out. |
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When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. not sure what you researched, but here is a link http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/world-trade-center-collapse.html does the (NIST) National Institute of Standards and Technology have an agenda Probably yes. Anything that is coming from the mainstream, I do not trust initially, because I know how they work. now i know you didn't click on the link, ponder the information, and come up with something real to ponder in response. why the close minded attitude the horse is indeed dead lol, done beat it to death.. |
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i doubt anybody will get it until its too late but here goes.its way bigger than 911.your whole reality system is based on lies.everything that happens is preplanned and shaped towards a goal.you arent free like you think.almost all the stores that you buy from are owned by satanic groups.almost all food products in the restaurants and stores contain massive amounts of msg(to lower your IQ)allowed by the fda.most of your water supply contains fluoride(to lower your IQ)your fillings and shots contain mercury (to lower your IQ)you still dont get it? most of the vitamins and nutrients have been removed from your food (to lower your IQ).from the first president until the last has been raised and prepicked.(not by you).it doesnt matter if your dem or repub or other.they all have the same goals to carry out.this is being done all over the world.they have been in power since babylon.the terrorism adjective is to confine you and track your every move.but you feel safer.very few have understood this.this is to set you up for one world government.one world religion.one world army.the rich familys have always been rich and stay rich they were the ones inside the castle.you are poor and always will be.you go to work everyday and seem to really get nowhere while you dream of becoming rich.they make the rules and you play the game.thats why you can never get ahead.you pay for energy at any price they say and it seems fair.if you dont constantly pay your taxes they take your stuff.its like the casino the dealer always wins.you still think your free?all of the odds are set up against you.you recycle to save the environment as they poison your food and water.but the food says its extra healthy and sugar and fat free.they are lying to you and the fda goes along with it.the pharmaceutical companys own the health food companys and the vitamin companys.most stores and products now have satanic logos but i guess you cant see them.just like the oil companys bought all the electric trolly companys and destroyed them.electric cars work they just dont want you to have them.they want everybody to use gas and oil so they can pull the plug. so you think you are still free? anyone can become president.you were taught in school to give you a false sense of hope.if you do have a business thats growing big they buy you out and then own you.your products cant compete if you cant sell them.walmart buys your products in record amount and lower your price each time.when you resist they drop you and your company goes under.then they buy it at rock bottom prices and take over.every product is a name brand owned by another company. but dont worry your still free. This makes no sense at all. Why would the government want dumb people? We would stop being the strongest economic power. We are not strong because of working class(as they outsource more and more) we are strong because of innovation. Why would they want dumb people? Simple, they are easy to control. Let me repeat that: THEY ARE EASY TO CONTROL. Dumb people will do anything they are told without question, even if it makes no sense. Needless to say, we have a lot of those such people in our country now. As far as innovation goes, you ought to ask yourself something. If that's so prized, why are they outsourcing our jobs for? Why are they making it so damned hard for people to start a business even if they want to? Why are corporations becoming more and more powerful, all but eliminating the little guys from competing? It all runs together, all they care about is about money, and how they can get more and more of it. They don't care who they have to step on to get it, they just want it. It just so happens that those they are stepping on is us. If they really gave a crap about what we can do for them, they wouldn't be treating us like dirt and trying to suck every last penny from us like they do. You need to get your head out of the sand, the reality of what is going on is so much larger than you know. |
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i doubt anybody will get it until its too late but here goes.its way bigger than 911.your whole reality system is based on lies.everything that happens is preplanned and shaped towards a goal.you arent free like you think.almost all the stores that you buy from are owned by satanic groups.almost all food products in the restaurants and stores contain massive amounts of msg(to lower your IQ)allowed by the fda.most of your water supply contains fluoride(to lower your IQ)your fillings and shots contain mercury (to lower your IQ)you still dont get it? most of the vitamins and nutrients have been removed from your food (to lower your IQ).from the first president until the last has been raised and prepicked.(not by you).it doesnt matter if your dem or repub or other.they all have the same goals to carry out.this is being done all over the world.they have been in power since babylon.the terrorism adjective is to confine you and track your every move.but you feel safer.very few have understood this.this is to set you up for one world government.one world religion.one world army.the rich familys have always been rich and stay rich they were the ones inside the castle.you are poor and always will be.you go to work everyday and seem to really get nowhere while you dream of becoming rich.they make the rules and you play the game.thats why you can never get ahead.you pay for energy at any price they say and it seems fair.if you dont constantly pay your taxes they take your stuff.its like the casino the dealer always wins.you still think your free?all of the odds are set up against you.you recycle to save the environment as they poison your food and water.but the food says its extra healthy and sugar and fat free.they are lying to you and the fda goes along with it.the pharmaceutical companys own the health food companys and the vitamin companys.most stores and products now have satanic logos but i guess you cant see them.just like the oil companys bought all the electric trolly companys and destroyed them.electric cars work they just dont want you to have them.they want everybody to use gas and oil so they can pull the plug. so you think you are still free? anyone can become president.you were taught in school to give you a false sense of hope.if you do have a business thats growing big they buy you out and then own you.your products cant compete if you cant sell them.walmart buys your products in record amount and lower your price each time.when you resist they drop you and your company goes under.then they buy it at rock bottom prices and take over.every product is a name brand owned by another company. but dont worry your still free. Secondly, what about all the people who grow their own fruits or vegetables, slaughter their own poultry and livestock, or drink well water? Seems to me they would avoid most of the "mind doping" you profess. What do the conspirators do? Sneak in undercover of darkness to thousands of residences to poison the water and the gardens? What do they do? They try and do all they can to shut them down that's what. Like this case: http://www.wellsphere.com/healthy-living-article/rawesome-food-club-raided-by-local-federal-and-canadian-agents/1160574 As an aside, they are evidently in trouble AGAIN and there have been arrests apparently...... This is what you call freedom? Perhaps you need to learn the definition of the term if this is what you think it is. |
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i guess most of have been stupified, and just don't know any better... i hate it when that happens...
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That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not. There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that. So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda. Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda. It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this. No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence. It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't. I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time. Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism. I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth? If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case. Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....." Understand what I mean? If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it? Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think. do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. The buildings at 9/11 look nothing like any demolition. "That you know of"? You don't know anything about building demolition at all. The building fell EXACTLY how physics predicts they would fall. The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also. Since you don't know about modern construction, friction connections rely on the clamping action of the bolt to hold two pieces (or more) of steel together. If the force exceeds the friction force (which occurs when load redistribution occurs) a hundred tons of steel slams into the connected part as the friction capacity of the bolted connection is exceeded. The friction connection then becomes a bearing connection. The slip of about one 32th of an inch sounds like an explosion and actually carries the force of one. Almost all modern buildings are erected with ASTM A-325 high strength bolts but some circumstances require ASTM A-490... which would make an even louder bang. BTW arn't you an Engineer or something? |
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Kleisto
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i guess most of have been stupified, and just don't know any better... i hate it when that happens... Most of us have, you may not even realize it has happened it's been so covertly done, but they've got a good majority of us brainwashed through one way or another. |
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There's been people BTW who have claimed it impossible to fly a plane directly into the building like that incidentally, at least a plane that size. You may not believe that, but that is something to consider here. Ok but tower 7 came down too, and all it had was just a small fire. There is no way it makes any sense whatsoever that THAT would collapse just from that alone. As for the concrete, it doesn't factor in that you can actually see fire from the individual sections exploding as the thing came down. That indicates me to some type of explosives were present. i've watched every video that i could, and have seen nothing to support any explosions that you are talking about. if you have one that shows the explosions, i would be glad to watch it. Building 7 had quite a bit of damage from the fall of the other buildins, and every 5 floors they had about 1000 gallons of diesel fuel to run the generators. when they caught fire, it was a slow, hot burn. at least that was what i read. and why do you think flying a plane is so hard? anyone can fly a plane, it is not near as hard as you think. have you ever played a flight simulator game on a computer? It was actually said that it was TRIED on flight simulator to do what these big planes supposedly did, and it couldn't be done. What would you say to that? To fly a plane is one thing, but doing something like this is another matter. Really? Chuck Yeager said it was completely possible. He is probably the most experienced decorated pilot in the history of the American and world Military branches. He is also one of the most accomplished test pilots in American history as well. I think he knows a little more on this subject the any Truther. |
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There's been people BTW who have claimed it impossible to fly a plane directly into the building like that incidentally, at least a plane that size. You may not believe that, but that is something to consider here. Ok but tower 7 came down too, and all it had was just a small fire. There is no way it makes any sense whatsoever that THAT would collapse just from that alone. As for the concrete, it doesn't factor in that you can actually see fire from the individual sections exploding as the thing came down. That indicates me to some type of explosives were present. i've watched every video that i could, and have seen nothing to support any explosions that you are talking about. if you have one that shows the explosions, i would be glad to watch it. Building 7 had quite a bit of damage from the fall of the other buildins, and every 5 floors they had about 1000 gallons of diesel fuel to run the generators. when they caught fire, it was a slow, hot burn. at least that was what i read. and why do you think flying a plane is so hard? anyone can fly a plane, it is not near as hard as you think. have you ever played a flight simulator game on a computer? It was actually said that it was TRIED on flight simulator to do what these big planes supposedly did, and it couldn't be done. What would you say to that? To fly a plane is one thing, but doing something like this is another matter. Really? Chuck Yeager said it was completely possible. He is probably the most experienced decorated pilot in the history of the American and world Military branches. He is also one of the most accomplished test pilots in American history as well. I think he knows a little more on this subject the any Truther. He was probably in on the lie too. He wouldn't be able to say the truth publicly. |
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If the Government is in on it, you think they killed thousands of people so why wouldn't the hesitate in killing the hundreds (I don't even think there are that many) of truthers who would threaten to expose them, if there really was a conspiracy all these people would be dead. Plain and simple. Former FBI chief Ted Gundersen says 9/11 was an inside job http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxPNN-y_c3g OMG, where to begin on this one. This was a guy who was a Special Agent in Charge of a field office not a high ranking official. Second of all he retired in 1980. He had no contact with the FBI after that because they wanted nothing to do with him and his conspiracy theroys. Let's look at a couple of them. He said the Oklahoma City Bombing, Jeffery MacDonald case(the former Green Beret who killed his wife), Franklind Child Prostitution Ring allegations and the Death of Sunny Bono were all do to Killer Satanic Cults. BTW it has been determined and proven that Killer Satanic Cults do not exist. Another thing I ski at Heavenly Ski Resort(Where Bono died). I have several friends who work there in various departments including Ski Patrol. One of them worked there when Bono died and saw the aftermath, he died by going out of bounds and smashing into a tree. There are even pictures on the internet of the incident and aftermath.  He also claimed the United Nations is using Chemtrails to poison fish and birds for genocide.
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He was probably in on the lie too. He wouldn't be able to say the truth publicly. OMG wtf everyone lies in your book. you have avoided direct questioning several times and all you can do is post about how many people lie. you can't even trust yourself asking a foretune teller for advise. hope the cards hold enough "truth" for you |
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That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not. There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that. So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda. Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda. It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this. No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence. It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't. I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time. Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism. I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth? If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case. Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....." Understand what I mean? If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it? Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think. do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. The buildings at 9/11 look nothing like any demolition. "That you know of"? You don't know anything about building demolition at all. The building fell EXACTLY how physics predicts they would fall. The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also. Since you don't know about modern construction, friction connections rely on the clamping action of the bolt to hold two pieces (or more) of steel together. If the force exceeds the friction force (which occurs when load redistribution occurs) a hundred tons of steel slams into the connected part as the friction capacity of the bolted connection is exceeded. The friction connection then becomes a bearing connection. The slip of about one 32th of an inch sounds like an explosion and actually carries the force of one. Almost all modern buildings are erected with ASTM A-325 high strength bolts but some circumstances require ASTM A-490... which would make an even louder bang. BTW arn't you an Engineer or something? Yes, structural at that, also material science, and failure mode analysis. |
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There's been people BTW who have claimed it impossible to fly a plane directly into the building like that incidentally, at least a plane that size. You may not believe that, but that is something to consider here. Ok but tower 7 came down too, and all it had was just a small fire. There is no way it makes any sense whatsoever that THAT would collapse just from that alone. As for the concrete, it doesn't factor in that you can actually see fire from the individual sections exploding as the thing came down. That indicates me to some type of explosives were present. i've watched every video that i could, and have seen nothing to support any explosions that you are talking about. if you have one that shows the explosions, i would be glad to watch it. Building 7 had quite a bit of damage from the fall of the other buildins, and every 5 floors they had about 1000 gallons of diesel fuel to run the generators. when they caught fire, it was a slow, hot burn. at least that was what i read. and why do you think flying a plane is so hard? anyone can fly a plane, it is not near as hard as you think. have you ever played a flight simulator game on a computer? It was actually said that it was TRIED on flight simulator to do what these big planes supposedly did, and it couldn't be done. What would you say to that? To fly a plane is one thing, but doing something like this is another matter. Really? Chuck Yeager said it was completely possible. He is probably the most experienced decorated pilot in the history of the American and world Military branches. He is also one of the most accomplished test pilots in American history as well. I think he knows a little more on this subject the any Truther. He was probably in on the lie too. He wouldn't be able to say the truth publicly. You know how crazy that sounds? You realize he retired from the military in 1975 right? He is one of the most honorable men I have ever met and tells it like it is. Not to mention they wouldn't involve a wild card like that who hadn't been in the military in over 25 years in a conspiracy. Just sayin' |
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That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not. There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that. So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda. Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda. It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this. No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence. It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't. I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time. Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism. I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth? If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case. Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....." Understand what I mean? If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it? Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think. do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. The buildings at 9/11 look nothing like any demolition. "That you know of"? You don't know anything about building demolition at all. The building fell EXACTLY how physics predicts they would fall. The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also. Since you don't know about modern construction, friction connections rely on the clamping action of the bolt to hold two pieces (or more) of steel together. If the force exceeds the friction force (which occurs when load redistribution occurs) a hundred tons of steel slams into the connected part as the friction capacity of the bolted connection is exceeded. The friction connection then becomes a bearing connection. The slip of about one 32th of an inch sounds like an explosion and actually carries the force of one. Almost all modern buildings are erected with ASTM A-325 high strength bolts but some circumstances require ASTM A-490... which would make an even louder bang. BTW arn't you an Engineer or something? Yes, structural at that, also material science, and failure mode analysis. So, I think you may know a little more on this subject then a High School kid then eh? Oh wait, your probably in on the conspiracy too! 
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i doubt anybody will get it until its too late but here goes.its way bigger than 911.your whole reality system is based on lies.everything that happens is preplanned and shaped towards a goal.you arent free like you think.almost all the stores that you buy from are owned by satanic groups.almost all food products in the restaurants and stores contain massive amounts of msg(to lower your IQ)allowed by the fda.most of your water supply contains fluoride(to lower your IQ)your fillings and shots contain mercury (to lower your IQ)you still dont get it? most of the vitamins and nutrients have been removed from your food (to lower your IQ).from the first president until the last has been raised and prepicked.(not by you).it doesnt matter if your dem or repub or other.they all have the same goals to carry out.this is being done all over the world.they have been in power since babylon.the terrorism adjective is to confine you and track your every move.but you feel safer.very few have understood this.this is to set you up for one world government.one world religion.one world army.the rich familys have always been rich and stay rich they were the ones inside the castle.you are poor and always will be.you go to work everyday and seem to really get nowhere while you dream of becoming rich.they make the rules and you play the game.thats why you can never get ahead.you pay for energy at any price they say and it seems fair.if you dont constantly pay your taxes they take your stuff.its like the casino the dealer always wins.you still think your free?all of the odds are set up against you.you recycle to save the environment as they poison your food and water.but the food says its extra healthy and sugar and fat free.they are lying to you and the fda goes along with it.the pharmaceutical companys own the health food companys and the vitamin companys.most stores and products now have satanic logos but i guess you cant see them.just like the oil companys bought all the electric trolly companys and destroyed them.electric cars work they just dont want you to have them.they want everybody to use gas and oil so they can pull the plug. so you think you are still free? anyone can become president.you were taught in school to give you a false sense of hope.if you do have a business thats growing big they buy you out and then own you.your products cant compete if you cant sell them.walmart buys your products in record amount and lower your price each time.when you resist they drop you and your company goes under.then they buy it at rock bottom prices and take over.every product is a name brand owned by another company. but dont worry your still free. This makes no sense at all. Why would the government want dumb people? We would stop being the strongest economic power. We are not strong because of working class(as they outsource more and more) we are strong because of innovation. Why would they want dumb people? Simple, they are easy to control. Let me repeat that: THEY ARE EASY TO CONTROL. Dumb people will do anything they are told without question, even if it makes no sense. Needless to say, we have a lot of those such people in our country now. As far as innovation goes, you ought to ask yourself something. If that's so prized, why are they outsourcing our jobs for? Why are they making it so damned hard for people to start a business even if they want to? Why are corporations becoming more and more powerful, all but eliminating the little guys from competing? It all runs together, all they care about is about money, and how they can get more and more of it. They don't care who they have to step on to get it, they just want it. It just so happens that those they are stepping on is us. If they really gave a crap about what we can do for them, they wouldn't be treating us like dirt and trying to suck every last penny from us like they do. You need to get your head out of the sand, the reality of what is going on is so much larger than you know. They outsource manual labor. Uneducated jobs. They don't outsource innovation. So what if dumb people are easy to control. If everyone is dumb the controllers are dumb. Do they have some secret food supply to only give to their families. It would be really hard for them to not eat any "poisoned" food as the generations change. Also controlling dumb people is useless. Our country wouldn't be able to be a super power if everyone was dumb. We would slip into a 3rd world country. It is in the USA's best interests to have smart people. We have some of the best colleges in the world. Some of the highest rated Doctors, Engineers, Scientists. There is no evidence the government would want to make people dumb and its totally illogical at that. |
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