It's simple, the President and Vice President doesn't have to. There was no need, they were able to determine what happened withouth Bush or Cheney appearing. Not to mention ANY President would have done the same thing and has done the same thing including your precious Obama.

BS on that My thinking you cannot commit perjury if you refuse to go under oath.

I think before we were rushed off to war killing over 6000 americans AND COUNTLESS OTHERS WE at the verry least deserved the truth.

Now that america is bankrupt finacialy and moraly its far to late to find the truth.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Really? Obama has refused to go under other or let members of his administration go under oath on multiple occasions using the executive privledge excuse. I didn't see you crying about it then, oh wait you worship the guy so that makes it ok.

What do you mean the PT-109 incident was influenced by his father? I read that it was pretty accurate, including the books and movie.

Oh, I don't think anyone is saying that Kennedy didn't do some amazing things in that incident, but he also did some things that weren't up to military muster that helped cause the incident, too.

I read about it in the last issue of 'The Quarterly Journal of Military History'. I think the article posted here:

http://www.historynet.com/pt-109-disaster.htm

... is the same one I read.

If you read it, you'll find out why his squadron called him "Crash Kennedy", and why many graduates of Annapolis called the PT boat crews "The Hooligan Navy".

You'll also read how Joe Kennedy's influence with journalists and how a chance meeting with John Hershey (author of Hiroshima) helped bring the incident into the public eye. Also, how Kennedy was actually classified unfit for duty for health reasons, but again how his father's influence help to get him into the officer's corps.

Again, not to detract from JFK's bravery, it just tells the rest of the story.

-Kerry O.

Wow, I thought you were more my age..........

I actually agree with Garrisons trial points he brought up. The fact the the person he tried Claw Shaw and his witness who dies before testifying David Ferrie were both confirmed to work for the CIA by the CIA director in the late 79's early 80's after Shaw died.

I think Garrison was right on the money for the most part.

One also can't call JFK's resolve during the Cuban Missile Crisis into question, either. I lived through that, too, and it made the current debt ceiling crisis look like a day in the park. People were actually spending bunches of money constructing bomb shelters in their back yards and the schools were doing 'duck and cover' drills during school hours regularly.

Not that they would have done any good if an airburst happened nearby...

-Kerry O.

BS on that My thinking you cannot commit perjury if you refuse to go under oath.

I think before we were rushed off to war killing over 6000 americans AND COUNTLESS OTHERS WE at the verry least deserved the truth.

Now that america is bankrupt finacialy and moraly its far to late to find the truth.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

I had to do nuclear drills in school too. Bomb shelters were still popular in the early 70s. But it was when I got to high school when it dawned on me the only safe place from a nuclear blast is as far away from it as you can get. Just the shockwave alone can kill people in their bunkers. Fact is SAC NORAD is supposed to be nuke proof and that is a fallacy! the thing is Russia did not want an exchange like that with us. They really didn't want a war with us. it was all politics.

No, I only _look_ your age. :) Finally, this damn baby face of mine is paying dividends. My profile lists my accurate birth year.




Well, one thing is for certain-- the Kennedy's sure made a lot of enemies. so who can say that there isn't more than what was in the Warren report? And I in no way flatly dismiss Garrison's theories as I do those of the Truthers and the Birthers. I just don't think he got close enough to make a breakthrough, something that could make all the dominoes fall in a predictable fashion.

Some things we'll never know, I guess.


-Kerry O.

If I may offer a question, Do you think your voting patterns and being a Staunch Democrat might have been part of the problem all along?

If a candidate with a proven track record and is known to be moral and upstanding and was CLEARLY a choice candidate for office but he was a republican I bet you would vote Democrat just to spite his party choice.

Also refusing to go under oath in a court of law can be viewed as contempt of court and what do you think that gets you?

So in all reality before just going **** out and and spewing such hostility towards a select group why not blame both parties for the mess and not fall into this whole "Its all because of people like you " tangent.

All of this is because of how STUPID Americans have become. It is self interest, greed, and moral decay of the voters just as much as out leadership.

This is why I HATE poor people so much, they are taught to be poor and to stay poor and to think poor. I grew up in poverty. I know what it is. I know from living on the street for a few years about some of these "Poor downtrodden masses." While some of these losers sit at freeway off ramps with sign saying 'homeless and hungry' I was hustling work! Poor people vote for the hand outs. They vote on hollow promises.

So how do you contribute exactly to the greater good? I mean you talk all this good reactionary crap but what have you done to back it?

You hate our government so much you will conveniently blame them for anything unfairly based on suspicion and paranoia like so many others.

I guess Kleisto didn't want to cut against me because he would have been fighting a two front war in his argument. And you jump in like this?

Poor form!

You know as well as I you cannot blame a country or government for this when it was RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED. And who was this religion? Now let us look to Egypt. Wish to compare moral bankruptcy? First Egypt didn't have the balls to stop the violence against the Coptic Christians there when Islam got a majority there. Also The Catholic Church said nothing or did anything to help fellow Christians of another faith. Do I have to elaborate more? I can.

What yardstick do you hold us against in this world?

All I meant by that was, you have to consider who owns and controls the media, that is to say, the elite, your Rockefellers, your Murdochs, your Rothchilds, etc etc. They who run the media also control its' content, as well as well as what ISN'T content. So when I say follow the money, what I am telling you is they who hold it have the power as well, and you can be certain they will use that power to suit their agenda, which is NOT the agenda of the American people at large and never really has been.

so you followed the money and found that rothchild, murdoch and rokefeller planned and carried out 911? so take us through this money trail that you discovered. btw, if money is power bill gates and warren buffet far more powerful so they must have done the deed, huh?

There weren't stupid and Nikita Kruschev paid a heavy price meted out to him by his own Communist Party for the Cuban Missile Crisis.

I can't remember the book which contained it-- probably 'The Prisoner's Dilemma' by William Poundstone-- but it pointed out the the arms race in the early 50's was largely fearmongering and playing nuclear poker, because the Russians just did not have that much fissile material and enough bomb cores to make MAD stick if a 'shooting war' broke out. Of course, no one knew that at the time...


-Kerry O.

If I may offer a question, Do you think your voting patterns and being a Staunch Democrat might have been part of the problem all along?

If a candidate with a proven track record and is known to be moral and upstanding and was CLEARLY a choice candidate for office but he was a republican I bet you would vote Democrat just to spite his party choice.

Also refusing to go under oath in a court of law can be viewed as contempt of court and what do you think that gets you?

So in all reality before just going **** out and and spewing such hostility towards a select group why not blame both parties for the mess and not fall into this whole "Its all because of people like you " tangent.

All of this is because of how STUPID Americans have become. It is self interest, greed, and moral decay of the voters just as much as out leadership.

This is why I HATE poor people so much, they are taught to be poor and to stay poor and to think poor. I grew up in poverty. I know what it is. I know from living on the street for a few years about some of these "Poor downtrodden masses." While some of these losers sit at freeway off ramps with sign saying 'homeless and hungry' I was hustling work! Poor people vote for the hand outs. They vote on hollow promises.

So how do you contribute exactly to the greater good? I mean you talk all this good reactionary crap but what have you done to back it?

You hate our government so much you will conveniently blame them for anything unfairly based on suspicion and paranoia like so many others.

I guess Kleisto didn't want to cut against me because he would have been fighting a two front war in his argument. And you jump in like this?

Poor form!

You know as well as I you cannot blame a country or government for this when it was RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED. And who was this religion? Now let us look to Egypt. Wish to compare moral bankruptcy? First Egypt didn't have the balls to stop the violence against the Coptic Christians there when Islam got a majority there. Also The Catholic Church said nothing or did anything to help fellow Christians of another faith. Do I have to elaborate more? I can.

What yardstick do you hold us against in this world?

Hu?