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Edited by
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most of them know more than the experts, if they even watch it, so nothing will really change with the truthers... they spent the last tens whining and crying about this, so to have their world torn apart won't happen... to bad they won't see it with an open mind, but will try to pick it apart.... Those against it are just as guilty if not more so if you ask me. They just keep spouting government rhetoric like they know better, when really they know nothing of what they think. oh yea, it was me, i planned it all... me and george had a bet, and i won a dollar...insanity at its best...  BTW, you just proved everything i just said, and you didn't even know it...  : Not reawlly, but if that's what makes you sleep better at night so be it. The truth will be known eventually, how you feel about it means little. the truth is known, you won't accept it... did you watch the show? That "truth" is a lie. And no I have no interest to, I can smell the spin from a mile away. I know enough already from what is posted here alone. The best way to add intelligent controversial pro vs con rebuttals would be to. Watch and intelligently apply that which you find as faslifications with actual researched science to back up your hypotheisis....write an actual thesis to your premisies with annotated information backing you theories....which in the truthers versions I have not yet seen ((((seak!!!!!))))  hi! 
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yep ive been looking into this for 30 years and your 5 minutes of investigation has trumped my theories.im sure you know the real reason jfk was shot and why the titanic sank.yet you fail to realize all the satanic marks everywhere today like patrick swazy said if there was a cure for cancer every doctor would have it and they would be rich.yep satanism comes around once a year around halloween and disapears.your like a little fat kids in a candy store that hasnt discovered the truth about sugar.everything is bright and sugar coated and you feel safe and happy. recycled post thats because bill gates,warren buffet,and rothchilds dont pay their fair share. the way they have it set up billionaires will pay less for everything and you will pay more. bill gates started as a little rich dork he didnt invent windows his mom bought it for him from someone as ibm reqested. this is how the rich get richer they all have the satanic minus touch.these satanists only deal with other satanists and use unfair compilation so the reg joe cant compete then thell buy his company at bargain discount prices and start it up again. of course this is done in secret.until they own everything. this is why you only see big brand names anymore.this is also why your doctor prescribes you long term pills but cant cure siht. they keep getting richer while you struggle to make ends meet. every time you buy anything today you are making satanists more rich. every store is a chain and owned by very few people at the top. almost all the products in the store are owned by them to. all the products have a satanic mark on them arm and hammer,dole,finish,motts,windex,dawn,crest and walmart.......its the sun. its everywhere and yet you dont even notice it. i found out the secret the secret is everybodys retarded the reason there isn't a cure for cancer is that all the money is in finding the cure. if they found the cure, all their funding stops. wouldnt it be funny if it was the same reason we had terrorism everything has to do with money, so it really wouldn't surprise me a bit... |
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most of them know more than the experts, if they even watch it, so nothing will really change with the truthers... they spent the last tens whining and crying about this, so to have their world torn apart won't happen... to bad they won't see it with an open mind, but will try to pick it apart.... Those against it are just as guilty if not more so if you ask me. They just keep spouting government rhetoric like they know better, when really they know nothing of what they think. oh yea, it was me, i planned it all... me and george had a bet, and i won a dollar...insanity at its best... BTW, you just proved everything i just said, and you didn't even know it... : Not reawlly, but if that's what makes you sleep better at night so be it. The truth will be known eventually, how you feel about it means little. the truth is known, you won't accept it... did you watch the show? That "truth" is a lie. And no I have no interest to, I can smell the spin from a mile away. I know enough already from what is posted here alone. The best way to add intelligent controversial pro vs con rebuttals would be to. Watch and intelligently apply that which you find as faslifications with actual researched science to back up your hypotheisis....write an actual thesis to your premisies with annotated information backing you theories....which in the truthers versions I have not yet seen ((((seak!!!!!)))) hi! Hey moe how r ya? |
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most of them know more than the experts, if they even watch it, so nothing will really change with the truthers... they spent the last tens whining and crying about this, so to have their world torn apart won't happen... to bad they won't see it with an open mind, but will try to pick it apart.... Those against it are just as guilty if not more so if you ask me. They just keep spouting government rhetoric like they know better, when really they know nothing of what they think. oh yea, it was me, i planned it all... me and george had a bet, and i won a dollar...insanity at its best... BTW, you just proved everything i just said, and you didn't even know it... : Not reawlly, but if that's what makes you sleep better at night so be it. The truth will be known eventually, how you feel about it means little. the truth is known, you won't accept it... did you watch the show? That "truth" is a lie. And no I have no interest to, I can smell the spin from a mile away. I know enough already from what is posted here alone. The best way to add intelligent controversial pro vs con rebuttals would be to. Watch and intelligently apply that which you find as faslifications with actual researched science to back up your hypotheisis....write an actual thesis to your premisies with annotated information backing you theories....which in the truthers versions I have not yet seen ((((seak!!!!!)))) hi! Hey moe how r ya? way better now, thanks... how have been doing? been a while since i've seen you |
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most of them know more than the experts, if they even watch it, so nothing will really change with the truthers... they spent the last tens whining and crying about this, so to have their world torn apart won't happen... to bad they won't see it with an open mind, but will try to pick it apart.... Those against it are just as guilty if not more so if you ask me. They just keep spouting government rhetoric like they know better, when really they know nothing of what they think. oh yea, it was me, i planned it all... me and george had a bet, and i won a dollar...insanity at its best... BTW, you just proved everything i just said, and you didn't even know it... : Not reawlly, but if that's what makes you sleep better at night so be it. The truth will be known eventually, how you feel about it means little. the truth is known, you won't accept it... did you watch the show? That "truth" is a lie. And no I have no interest to, I can smell the spin from a mile away. I know enough already from what is posted here alone. The best way to add intelligent controversial pro vs con rebuttals would be to. Watch and intelligently apply that which you find as faslifications with actual researched science to back up your hypotheisis....write an actual thesis to your premisies with annotated information backing you theories....which in the truthers versions I have not yet seen ((((seak!!!!!)))) hi! Hey moe how r ya? way better now, thanks... how have been doing? been a while since i've seen you Sorry to hear. U weren't doing well just a drive by and gotta jet glad u r better |
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yep ive been looking into this for 30 years and your 5 minutes of investigation has trumped my theories.im sure you know the real reason jfk was shot and why the titanic sank.yet you fail to realize all the satanic marks everywhere today like patrick swazy said if there was a cure for cancer every doctor would have it and they would be rich.yep satanism comes around once a year around halloween and disapears.your like a little fat kids in a candy store that hasnt discovered the truth about sugar.everything is bright and sugar coated and you feel safe and happy. recycled post thats because bill gates,warren buffet,and rothchilds dont pay their fair share. the way they have it set up billionaires will pay less for everything and you will pay more. bill gates started as a little rich dork he didnt invent windows his mom bought it for him from someone as ibm reqested. this is how the rich get richer they all have the satanic minus touch.these satanists only deal with other satanists and use unfair compilation so the reg joe cant compete then thell buy his company at bargain discount prices and start it up again. of course this is done in secret.until they own everything. this is why you only see big brand names anymore.this is also why your doctor prescribes you long term pills but cant cure siht. they keep getting richer while you struggle to make ends meet. every time you buy anything today you are making satanists more rich. every store is a chain and owned by very few people at the top. almost all the products in the store are owned by them to. all the products have a satanic mark on them arm and hammer,dole,finish,motts,windex,dawn,crest and walmart.......its the sun. its everywhere and yet you dont even notice it. i found out the secret the secret is everybodys retarded Dude at least get your facts straight. Bill gates didn't buy windows he bought DOS and sold it to IBM. He was working for Apple and stole windows from them and they stole it from xerox. |
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Seakolony's appearance inspired me to look for a link that my brother sent me debunking the 9/11 conspiracy theories. By degree, he is a physicist, but by career, he is software engineer. Unfortunately, I deleted the email a while back, and now after searching the web, I can't remember the name of the website. It was very thorough with pages and pages of scientific explanation countering very specific "truth" claims, and provided references to back up all data and science.
Ah well. I remember what it looks like, but the web is so packed with "9/11 Truth" websites now that I have to sort through hundreds on search results just to find the page I'm looking for. 
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Pro conspiracy theorists are FOOLS! These are people who sit at home in front of computers, read mantras of social misfits, and want to believe our leadership is always up to something.
And now the matrix isn't make believe? What are you guys smoking? I want some! |
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Pro conspiracy theorists are FOOLS! These are people who sit at home in front of computers, read mantras of social misfits, and want to believe our leadership is always up to something. And now the matrix isn't make believe? What are you guys smoking? I want some! yes sir and the moon will turn blood red for you and the stars will fall from the skys |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 08/03/11 01:39 PM
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Wow 13 pages.... sorry I don't have time to read them.
People will probably believe what they want to believe. I would prefer to believe that our government is made up of a bunch of lily white good-guys and that they never ever lie to the public, but that rose colored delusion has crashed and burned years ago. Neither do I believe that 9-11 was a total government conspiracy. It was certainly some kind of conspiracy, I'll give you that. Someone had to have planned it and pulled it off. I've certainly not been convinced it was a bunch of third world Islamic nut jobs either. I heard somewhere that skyscrapers are now being built with built in demolition plans and are pretty easy to implement. Tall buildings in Las Vegas go up in less than six months and come down overnight. They build things now in anticipation of demolition. I tried to put on my rose colored glasses and I really tried real hard to believe the official story but my lie detector and my bull shyt detector when off like crazy. I also know there are dozens of crack pot nut-job conspiracy theories out there, and I've seen a lot of them. They are very easy to debunk. I would not be surprised if these were the ones they are debunking on this special. I haven't seen it yet, but I will try to catch it. Just because they took great effort and care to debunk a few bad (possibly dis-information theories) does not mean that they are going to get off with a clean slate. There is still something very very rotten in the State of Denmark. (That's Shakespeare.) |
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Wow 13 pages.... sorry I don't have time to read them. People will probably believe what they want to believe. I would prefer to believe that our government is made up of a bunch of lily white good-guys and that they never ever lie to the public, but that rose colored delusion has crashed and burned years ago. Neither do I believe that 9-11 was a total government conspiracy. It was certainly some kind of conspiracy, I'll give you that. Someone had to have planned it and pulled it off. I've certainly not been convinced it was a bunch of third world Islamic nut jobs either. I heard somewhere that skyscrapers are now being built with built in demolition plans and are pretty easy to implement. Tall buildings in Las Vegas go up in less than six months and come down overnight. They build things now in anticipation of demolition. I tried to put on my rose colored glasses and I really tried real hard to believe the official story but my lie detector and my bull shyt detector when off like crazy. I also know there are dozens of crack pot nut-job conspiracy theories out there, and I've seen a lot of them. They are very easy to debunk. I would not be surprised if these were the ones they are debunking on this special. I haven't seen it yet, but I will try to catch it. Just because they took great effort and care to debunk a few bad (possibly dis-information theories) does not mean that they are going to get off with a clean slate. There is still something very very rotten in the State of Denmark. (That's Shakespeare.) They debunked pretty much all main ones that I know of. The show was like 1 1/2 hours with no commercials. They debunked the stuff the truthers on this site keep talking about anyway. |
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Wow 13 pages.... sorry I don't have time to read them. People will probably believe what they want to believe. I would prefer to believe that our government is made up of a bunch of lily white good-guys and that they never ever lie to the public, but that rose colored delusion has crashed and burned years ago. Neither do I believe that 9-11 was a total government conspiracy. It was certainly some kind of conspiracy, I'll give you that. Someone had to have planned it and pulled it off. I've certainly not been convinced it was a bunch of third world Islamic nut jobs either. I heard somewhere that skyscrapers are now being built with built in demolition plans and are pretty easy to implement. Tall buildings in Las Vegas go up in less than six months and come down overnight. They build things now in anticipation of demolition. I tried to put on my rose colored glasses and I really tried real hard to believe the official story but my lie detector and my bull shyt detector when off like crazy. I also know there are dozens of crack pot nut-job conspiracy theories out there, and I've seen a lot of them. They are very easy to debunk. I would not be surprised if these were the ones they are debunking on this special. I haven't seen it yet, but I will try to catch it. Just because they took great effort and care to debunk a few bad (possibly dis-information theories) does not mean that they are going to get off with a clean slate. There is still something very very rotten in the State of Denmark. (That's Shakespeare.) A building may fall in a day but the fact is it takes weeks of preparation and planning to do a building demolition no matter what! The idea of being able to just build a collapsible building is ludicrous! The cost of erection alone makes the idea of planned obsolescence stupid. Tall buildings are made to LAST! How old is the Empire State building? When tearing down sky scrapers they are dismantled piece by piece like they are put up. That is the only way unless they are far enough apart to implode. IN Down Town LA they actually have had to dismantle buildings here because implosion would have been too risky to the structures near by. I bet NO ONE has read the account I posted of a B-25 flying into the Empire State Building... 
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That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not. There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that. So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda. Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda. It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this. No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence. It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't. I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time. Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism. I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth? If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case. Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....." Understand what I mean? If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it? Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think. do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also. Oh really? This would disagree with you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huq0EM3aGkI ? how does it disagree? in fact, it supports us more than anything... you can clearly see the top of the building falling to the south, instead of straight down like the truthers always say it does. to me, those lights looked like electrical shorting out more than anything else. You can CLEARLY see the explosions in the smoke. That's how it disagrees. There are several flashes, they are a bit more noticeable the faster the thing is coming down. You CLEARLY didn't read the article I posed about a accident that happened in 1945. It has an account of what happened and describes the EXACT same things you describe! I know there is an old news reel somewhere because I SEEN it in a history show about strange accidents in history. Here is an audio account from 1945! http://www.history.com/audio/b-25-crashes-into-empire-state-building#b-25-crashes-into-empire-state-building?vid=HIS_MRSS_Google I FOUND IT! HERE IS THE NEWS REEL! http://youtu.be/-Ir1uiM_IZ8 |
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That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not. There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that. So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda. Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda. It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this. No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence. It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't. I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time. Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism. I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth? If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case. Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....." Understand what I mean? If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it? Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think. do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. The buildings at 9/11 look nothing like any demolition. "That you know of"? You don't know anything about building demolition at all. The building fell EXACTLY how physics predicts they would fall. The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also. Since you don't know about modern construction, friction connections rely on the clamping action of the bolt to hold two pieces (or more) of steel together. If the force exceeds the friction force (which occurs when load redistribution occurs) a hundred tons of steel slams into the connected part as the friction capacity of the bolted connection is exceeded. The friction connection then becomes a bearing connection. The slip of about one 32th of an inch sounds like an explosion and actually carries the force of one. Almost all modern buildings are erected with ASTM A-325 high strength bolts but some circumstances require ASTM A-490... which would make an even louder bang. BTW arn't you an Engineer or something? Yes, structural at that, also material science, and failure mode analysis. So, I think you may know a little more on this subject then a High School kid then eh? Oh wait, your probably in on the conspiracy too!   The guy works in that field, what experience do you have? Do tell, please let us know your experience or expertise on this. He has seen the Matrix! Bow before his knowledge! 
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yep ive been looking into this for 30 years and your 5 minutes of investigation has trumped my theories.im sure you know the real reason jfk was shot and why the titanic sank.yet you fail to realize all the satanic marks everywhere today like patrick swazy said if there was a cure for cancer every doctor would have it and they would be rich.yep satanism comes around once a year around halloween and disapears.your like a little fat kids in a candy store that hasnt discovered the truth about sugar.everything is bright and sugar coated and you feel safe and happy. recycled post thats because bill gates,warren buffet,and rothchilds dont pay their fair share. the way they have it set up billionaires will pay less for everything and you will pay more. bill gates started as a little rich dork he didnt invent windows his mom bought it for him from someone as ibm reqested. this is how the rich get richer they all have the satanic minus touch.these satanists only deal with other satanists and use unfair compilation so the reg joe cant compete then thell buy his company at bargain discount prices and start it up again. of course this is done in secret.until they own everything. this is why you only see big brand names anymore.this is also why your doctor prescribes you long term pills but cant cure siht. they keep getting richer while you struggle to make ends meet. every time you buy anything today you are making satanists more rich. every store is a chain and owned by very few people at the top. almost all the products in the store are owned by them to. all the products have a satanic mark on them arm and hammer,dole,finish,motts,windex,dawn,crest and walmart.......its the sun. its everywhere and yet you dont even notice it. i found out the secret the secret is everybodys retarded Still haven't responded the the post where I discredited your little FBI theroy profile.
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That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not. There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that. So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda. Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda. It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this. No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence. It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't. I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time. Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism. I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth? If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case. Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....." Understand what I mean? If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it? Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think. do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed. Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now. The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also. Oh really? This would disagree with you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huq0EM3aGkI This is one of the problems with a lack of education. Some bozo on youtube describes the flashes of light from the broken glass reflecting light as "obvious explosions" and the blown out windows caused by the compressed air in each floor as the floor above it falls as a specific explosion ... and it is taken as fact. This particular Youtube 9/11 explanation may be the dumbest of all ... and I have seen many. And for the record, it has nothing to do with anything I wrote previously. The sounds of "explosions" that were referenced and heard by some below were way lower in the building and earlier than the collapse of the building. I am sure the redistribution of forces caused some popping just before the end also. I suspect that the sound of the building coming down drowned out pretty much everything else. ignorance is curable stupidity is not |
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yep ive been looking into this for 30 years and your 5 minutes of investigation has trumped my theories.im sure you know the real reason jfk was shot and why the titanic sank.yet you fail to realize all the satanic marks everywhere today like patrick swazy said if there was a cure for cancer every doctor would have it and they would be rich.yep satanism comes around once a year around halloween and disapears.your like a little fat kids in a candy store that hasnt discovered the truth about sugar.everything is bright and sugar coated and you feel safe and happy. recycled post thats because bill gates,warren buffet,and rothchilds dont pay their fair share. the way they have it set up billionaires will pay less for everything and you will pay more. bill gates started as a little rich dork he didnt invent windows his mom bought it for him from someone as ibm reqested. this is how the rich get richer they all have the satanic minus touch.these satanists only deal with other satanists and use unfair compilation so the reg joe cant compete then thell buy his company at bargain discount prices and start it up again. of course this is done in secret.until they own everything. this is why you only see big brand names anymore.this is also why your doctor prescribes you long term pills but cant cure siht. they keep getting richer while you struggle to make ends meet. every time you buy anything today you are making satanists more rich. every store is a chain and owned by very few people at the top. almost all the products in the store are owned by them to. all the products have a satanic mark on them arm and hammer,dole,finish,motts,windex,dawn,crest and walmart.......its the sun. its everywhere and yet you dont even notice it. i found out the secret the secret is everybodys retarded the reason there isn't a cure for cancer is that all the money is in finding the cure. if they found the cure, all their funding stops. wouldnt it be funny if it was the same reason we had terrorism There's nothing funny about terrorism. |
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Seakolony's appearance inspired me to look for a link that my brother sent me debunking the 9/11 conspiracy theories. By degree, he is a physicist, but by career, he is software engineer. Unfortunately, I deleted the email a while back, and now after searching the web, I can't remember the name of the website. It was very thorough with pages and pages of scientific explanation countering very specific "truth" claims, and provided references to back up all data and science. Ah well. I remember what it looks like, but the web is so packed with "9/11 Truth" websites now that I have to sort through hundreds on search results just to find the page I'm looking for. Look at the few I posted at the beginning of this thread. One was done by Popular Mechanics. |
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Wow 13 pages.... sorry I don't have time to read them. People will probably believe what they want to believe. I would prefer to believe that our government is made up of a bunch of lily white good-guys and that they never ever lie to the public, but that rose colored delusion has crashed and burned years ago. Neither do I believe that 9-11 was a total government conspiracy. It was certainly some kind of conspiracy, I'll give you that. Someone had to have planned it and pulled it off. I've certainly not been convinced it was a bunch of third world Islamic nut jobs either. I heard somewhere that skyscrapers are now being built with built in demolition plans and are pretty easy to implement. Tall buildings in Las Vegas go up in less than six months and come down overnight. They build things now in anticipation of demolition. I tried to put on my rose colored glasses and I really tried real hard to believe the official story but my lie detector and my bull shyt detector when off like crazy. I also know there are dozens of crack pot nut-job conspiracy theories out there, and I've seen a lot of them. They are very easy to debunk. I would not be surprised if these were the ones they are debunking on this special. I haven't seen it yet, but I will try to catch it. Just because they took great effort and care to debunk a few bad (possibly dis-information theories) does not mean that they are going to get off with a clean slate. There is still something very very rotten in the State of Denmark. (That's Shakespeare.) It was a conspiracy, I never said it wasn't It was a conspiracy between members of AQ, The Taliban and other Muslim Terrorist Orginizations. |
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Wow 13 pages.... sorry I don't have time to read them. People will probably believe what they want to believe. I would prefer to believe that our government is made up of a bunch of lily white good-guys and that they never ever lie to the public, but that rose colored delusion has crashed and burned years ago. Neither do I believe that 9-11 was a total government conspiracy. It was certainly some kind of conspiracy, I'll give you that. Someone had to have planned it and pulled it off. I've certainly not been convinced it was a bunch of third world Islamic nut jobs either. I heard somewhere that skyscrapers are now being built with built in demolition plans and are pretty easy to implement. Tall buildings in Las Vegas go up in less than six months and come down overnight. They build things now in anticipation of demolition. I tried to put on my rose colored glasses and I really tried real hard to believe the official story but my lie detector and my bull shyt detector when off like crazy. I also know there are dozens of crack pot nut-job conspiracy theories out there, and I've seen a lot of them. They are very easy to debunk. I would not be surprised if these were the ones they are debunking on this special. I haven't seen it yet, but I will try to catch it. Just because they took great effort and care to debunk a few bad (possibly dis-information theories) does not mean that they are going to get off with a clean slate. There is still something very very rotten in the State of Denmark. (That's Shakespeare.) According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks: "Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying? Telling the truth 16% Hiding something 53% Mostly lying 28% Not sure 3%" The 84% figure mirrors other recent polls on the same issue. A Canadian Poll put the figure at 85%. A CNN poll had the figure at 89%. Over 80% supported the stance of Charlie Sheen when he went public with his opinions on 9/11 as an inside job. I would say at my work its about 70%. We are a mixed lot of guys about a third white a third black the rest lationo or other. We are all basicly middle class males with at least 15 years of service. |
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