Cowboy said:



Now you are telling me to stop sharing MY beliefs?? Or stop preaching?

(If all we are doing is sharing our beliefs why do you want me to shut up?)

I fully admit that I preach the truth.

I'm not trying to fool you into thinking I am just 'sharing' my beliefs.

I'm not trying to brainwash you to 'not believing.' I am trying to de-program you so you can see THE TRUTH.

(That's preaching, and that's being honest about it.)

Never said I had no need to do so. You're really out in left field today Funches, what in the world are you talking about?

lol programmed you say? How could I possibly have been programmed? I chose to be a Christian, I chose to lay my life down for Jesus. I chose it, how is that being brainwashed?

no..I asked you to name the ones that you personally follow everyday ...

you should perhaps remember the things that you post as indicated in your post below

lol, you're really really funny today funches. There is no contradiction or anything that doesn't make sense there.

1. I said someone doesn't HAVE to use any doctrine.
2. Never said I don't read the bible, just isn't a "have" to.

A Christian is one that follows Jesus' laws to the best of their ability. They could have gained this knowledge from word of mouth or out of the bible directly. But the doctrine itself is not important on a first hand basis. All our knowledge is given to us through doctrine in the long run.

Give me one example of the knowledge you possess that isn't possibly in or through any doctrine.

None of your business. It is irrelevant and again none of your business. What is the purpose of asking?

You don't understand, did you choose? Maybe you did, but you still have brainwashed whether you believe it or not, into thinking and justifying things that cannot be justified.

whther you know it or not cowboy?

can you relate to what I said in the other thread,, are you learning?

A brainwashed person ALWAYS denies that he has been brainwashed. He(or she) always believes they made their own choices.

And they did actually.

But they were convinced to because they were given (fed) false ideas and information.

Indeed, I think the true sign of this comes when any argument against what they believe the truth is, is automatically rejected in deference to what they have been told. It doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, they just dismiss it. They're not thinking for themselves as much as letting the religion or authority group think for them.

and people who ARENT brainwashed ALWAYS deny they were too,,lol

Yes that is a good sign.

When they reject anything that contradicts their programming.

They don't really look at anything else. They don't consider anything else. They don't imagine in their wildest dreams that they could possibly be wrong.

That is total brainwashing.

I have kidded with Cowboy and others about what is truth.

Nobody has the truth. They only think they do.

I know that most everything we see and hear and read in this world is a lie.

It is all mostly a bit of truth mixed with tons of lies.

But that does not matter. What matters is that people are real and they are free if they realize it.

Be free.

BE TRUE TO YOURSELF AND OTHERS.

Cowboy...temper temper .....

I just wanted to pop you into reality that you don't follow all the teachings of Jesus

Temper? Nothing was yelled, there was no caps, there was no exclamation marks. And how do you know I don't follow all the teachings of Jesus? You do not personally know me. You know of me, but you do not know me lol. But thanks for showing everyone you make assumptive conclusions on judging someone's person. Cause from what I said, it neither concludes I do or don't follow all of Jesus' teachings. And again, it is none of your business, that is between Jesus and I.

How could I possibly be brainwashed? I willingly chose to follow Jesus' teachings best to my ability, yeah yeah I know, I just think I did it willingly cause I was brainwashed. But how could I possibly have been brainwashed? Heck my parents could be total atheists, I could have no mingling with outside people of religious beliefs. Heck, I could live out in the middle of no where on a mountain with absolutely no contact with other people except for special occasions as groceries being brought to me.

Tell me, how could I have possibly been brainwashed into believing in our lord Jesus Christ?

lol, very good point msharmony.

Are you telling me that your parents are atheists? If you are not telling me that, then why would you imply or suggest that?

I don't think your parents are atheists. In fact, I think they are very religious and they have had a very strong influence on you.

Not only that, they are probably involved with a very radical and independent religious group.

You were brainwashed because you have been hearing the same things over and over and over and over again since you were a child.

You are barely an adult right now at the age of 23. I don't even consider a man to have his own mind until at least the age of 30 or 35. I am 39 years older than you. You are a child to me.

You probably just recently realized there was no Santa Clause. (Just kidding. LOL)

But you really are too young to know what you are talking about. You only know what you have been told. You have no real world experience.

Well you're bout to blown out of the water lol. My parents aren't atheist, that is true. But they are not "religious". They believe in God, yes. But they are not religious, they don't go to church, they don't talk about God except casual conversation, ect. So, no you were way off on your analysis. Shouldn't be so quick to judge.

What I know of God, and my scripture knowledge has come from personal seeking of it. Personal study, asking people questions, searching through the internet, ect.

My relationship with God is totally a personal choice lol. Just a little more information of the family I come from to make sure you don't still think I may have been brain washed by someone else. Now this isn't ment as to demean them or make them less of a person or anything. Just some facts. Two of my brothers just got out of prison from the age of 17ish/18. They were tried as adults for their crime.

Again, my relation with God our father is ENTIRELY a personal choice, a use of my free will. Not influenced by external being other then Jesus himself. So you may go your own way with your biased thinking, your assumptions on others, your judgments you've made unjustifiably without knowing all the knowledge thereof.