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Topic: Mind control and religion.......
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Tue 05/24/11 09:07 PM
Jedism uses mind control over people. Be careful for the Jedi's (good energy) and the Sith's (bad energy) will and can control you!

Mind Control and Religion is a powerful tool to make pockets fat!

Now with a wave of my hand you are now a member of the Jedi order!

May the force be with you!

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Tue 05/24/11 09:10 PM
Cowboy wrote:

I'm not more important then a grain of sand, a speck of dirt. That is why I am so thankful for the blessings I receive in my life from God our father even though I do not believe I deserve. I'm nothing special lol.


That's false humility if you're going to take the stance that you have the biblical "message" correct whilst everyone else needs YOU to pass it on to them.

It appears that you consider yourself to be VERY SPECIAL in that respect.

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Tue 05/24/11 09:14 PM

Jedism uses mind control over people. Be careful for the Jedi's (good energy) and the Sith's (bad energy) will and can control you!

Mind Control and Religion is a powerful tool to make pockets fat!

Now with a wave of my hand you are now a member of the Jedi order!

May the force be with you!


You're too late. The force was already with me today. laugh

Truthfully, I had an especially wonderful and rewarding day today. I really need to create more days like today. And I was indeed responsible, at least in part, for my creation of today.

I'm planning on creating a great day tomorrow too! drinker

So I'll be sucking up on some of that force tomorrow! :wink:

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Tue 05/24/11 09:56 PM


Jedism uses mind control over people. Be careful for the Jedi's (good energy) and the Sith's (bad energy) will and can control you!

Mind Control and Religion is a powerful tool to make pockets fat!

Now with a wave of my hand you are now a member of the Jedi order!

May the force be with you!


You're too late. The force was already with me today. laugh

Truthfully, I had an especially wonderful and rewarding day today. I really need to create more days like today. And I was indeed responsible, at least in part, for my creation of today.

I'm planning on creating a great day tomorrow too! drinker

So I'll be sucking up on some of that force tomorrow! :wink:


And that is the attitude everyone should have! It is good to read such positivity.

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Wed 05/25/11 11:04 AM
I am working on my Jedi mastership. :banana:

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Wed 05/25/11 11:19 AM

Cowboy wrote:

I'm telling no one, I'm merely passing on a message. It's your choice weather you wish to believe it has divine origin or not. I'm not here to change your mind on it, just merely discussing things of that nature.


You're not "passing on" anything other than your very own personal views.

Everyone has their own views of these stories.

Whether they are 'believers' or non-believers is actually a moot point.

As both Jeanniebean and MorningSong have pointed out to you, not everyone agrees on what these scriptures even have to say.

All you're doing is trying to sell your particular personal denomination of belief. That's all.

That's not "passing on" any message. whoa

In fact, it's actually quite an arrogant stance to take that your personal views should actually represent anything in those scriptures any better than anyone else's views.

So you're not "passing on" anything. All you're doing is offering your own personal opinions of what you wish the Bible stood for.




So you're not "passing on" anything. All you're doing is offering your own personal opinions of what you wish the Bible stood for.


I most usually back what I say with scriptures. And this is exactly why I do as such, to keep people from being able to say "your own personal opinion" kind thing. And I always offer for someone if they have a different interpretation of verses to talk, cause I DON'T know it all. I'm open minded ready to learn. I've tried this with you even. Just no matter what I say you totally renounce, you're not hear to "discuss" you're hear to "talk to".

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Wed 05/25/11 11:22 AM

Cowboy wrote:

I'm not more important then a grain of sand, a speck of dirt. That is why I am so thankful for the blessings I receive in my life from God our father even though I do not believe I deserve. I'm nothing special lol.


That's false humility if you're going to take the stance that you have the biblical "message" correct whilst everyone else needs YOU to pass it on to them.

It appears that you consider yourself to be VERY SPECIAL in that respect.


lol why you always try to make it so personal? I've never once said my interpretation of the scriptures is the exact, for sure fact and trumps all other interpretations. I'm very open to discussion and possibly learning if someone points out my error. This actually has been done a few times and I'm thankful for when it does. I do not wish to spread anything false. So no, I'm nothing special lol. Just a good ole redneck passing on his beliefs. Weather one wishes to give any merit to that belief or not is beyond my power.

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Wed 05/25/11 01:03 PM
I do not wish to spread anything false.


spock Indeed.huh


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Wed 05/25/11 04:07 PM
Cowboy wrote:

I most usually back what I say with scriptures.


No, you don't get any "backing" from scriptures at all Cowboy.

Everyone on here, has shown you repeatedly that the scriptures are riddled with self-contractions.

I have personally posted scriptures that totally contradict the scriptures that you've posted.

You have no support from the bible, Jesus, God, or anything else.

You're totally your own Cowboy. whoa

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Wed 05/25/11 04:25 PM

Cowboy wrote:

I most usually back what I say with scriptures.


No, you don't get any "backing" from scriptures at all Cowboy.

Everyone on here, has shown you repeatedly that the scriptures are riddled with self-contractions.

I have personally posted scriptures that totally contradict the scriptures that you've posted.

You have no support from the bible, Jesus, God, or anything else.

You're totally your own Cowboy. whoa


That is indeed what you think. They are only contradictions to you. If they were absolute contradictions that could not be made to make sense everyone would stop following it. And to find this for sure would be huge around the world

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Wed 05/25/11 04:29 PM
If they were absolute contradictions that could not be made to make sense everyone would stop following it. And to find this for sure would be huge around the world



Not everyone. There always seems to be a lot of people who need to follow something, even if it doesn't make sense.

But I am noticing a lot of people are classifying themselves "non-religious" on so many dating clubs.

I think the Exodus has begun.

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Wed 05/25/11 05:20 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Wed 05/25/11 05:21 PM

If they were absolute contradictions that could not be made to make sense everyone would stop following it. And to find this for sure would be huge around the world



Not everyone. There always seems to be a lot of people who need to follow something, even if it doesn't make sense.


Furthermore, you underestimate the power of mind control and conditioning Cowboy. When you're in it, it can be very hard to see outside of it. Even when something clearly doesn't make sense, the controlled person does not recognize it. Breaking the control is a difficult thing. So not everyone will stop following it nor do they, for the simple reason that not everyone can see the problem.

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Wed 05/25/11 06:19 PM


If they were absolute contradictions that could not be made to make sense everyone would stop following it. And to find this for sure would be huge around the world



Not everyone. There always seems to be a lot of people who need to follow something, even if it doesn't make sense.


Furthermore, you underestimate the power of mind control and conditioning Cowboy. When you're in it, it can be very hard to see outside of it. Even when something clearly doesn't make sense, the controlled person does not recognize it. Breaking the control is a difficult thing. So not everyone will stop following it nor do they, for the simple reason that not everyone can see the problem.


He's already in it himself so deep that he can't even see his own dilemma. He has completely deluded himself into believing that he speaks for God and that everyone else is wrong. laugh

That's every bit as bad as being oppressed by someone else, if not worse. Self-delusion can lead to serious psychosis.

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Wed 05/25/11 07:00 PM


there is beauty in balance

the most asthetically unattractive person, may not be obviously beautiful to the human eye, but they can in reality have a spiritual beauty that surpasses most

life could be good and innocent and easy all the time, but would the mortal mind appreciate it if it didnt have those bad, guilty, difficult times that make it so CLEAR of how good and innocent and easy those other times are?

I believe in a BEAUTIFUL and BALANCED God, whose beauty is more evident BECAUSE I have experienced the ugly and unbalanced experiences of this mortal life ,,,


This is why it doesn't exactly fit that a God who created a world purposefully with good and bad qualities, can punish people for acting as they were made to act. The entire thing is by design. If God didn't want it to be this way, it never would have been. So for a God to make things, to make us the way He did and then expect us to act contrary to how we were created, is unfair.



consequences arent fair or unfair, they just are


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Wed 05/25/11 07:16 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Wed 05/25/11 07:16 PM



there is beauty in balance

the most asthetically unattractive person, may not be obviously beautiful to the human eye, but they can in reality have a spiritual beauty that surpasses most

life could be good and innocent and easy all the time, but would the mortal mind appreciate it if it didnt have those bad, guilty, difficult times that make it so CLEAR of how good and innocent and easy those other times are?

I believe in a BEAUTIFUL and BALANCED God, whose beauty is more evident BECAUSE I have experienced the ugly and unbalanced experiences of this mortal life ,,,


This is why it doesn't exactly fit that a God who created a world purposefully with good and bad qualities, can punish people for acting as they were made to act. The entire thing is by design. If God didn't want it to be this way, it never would have been. So for a God to make things, to make us the way He did and then expect us to act contrary to how we were created, is unfair.



consequences arent fair or unfair, they just are


But WHO says, man or God? You cannot prove you are right, a book claiming to be something is not substantial evidence.

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Wed 05/25/11 07:24 PM




there is beauty in balance

the most asthetically unattractive person, may not be obviously beautiful to the human eye, but they can in reality have a spiritual beauty that surpasses most

life could be good and innocent and easy all the time, but would the mortal mind appreciate it if it didnt have those bad, guilty, difficult times that make it so CLEAR of how good and innocent and easy those other times are?

I believe in a BEAUTIFUL and BALANCED God, whose beauty is more evident BECAUSE I have experienced the ugly and unbalanced experiences of this mortal life ,,,


This is why it doesn't exactly fit that a God who created a world purposefully with good and bad qualities, can punish people for acting as they were made to act. The entire thing is by design. If God didn't want it to be this way, it never would have been. So for a God to make things, to make us the way He did and then expect us to act contrary to how we were created, is unfair.



consequences arent fair or unfair, they just are


But WHO says, man or God? You cannot prove you are right, a book claiming to be something is not substantial evidence.



who says what is 'substantial'? who says YOU are right about whether a book is 'substantial'?

life comes down to perceptions, few of us have such a life which is filled with 'substantially' proven beliefs or feelings and even fewer decisions which are based in such a standard of 'proof'

how we move through life is largely dictated by what our own life has shown to us, which is not a substantially one size fits all foundation of reason



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Wed 05/25/11 07:36 PM
Agreed, Msharmony, that is why the bible should never be used to govern all people at any level. It is too subjective.

That is why Christians should not be allowed to determine right and wrong for anyone but themselves since they are using a book of dubious intent.

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Wed 05/25/11 07:47 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 05/25/11 07:49 PM

Agreed, Msharmony, that is why the bible should never be used to govern all people at any level. It is too subjective.

That is why Christians should not be allowed to determine right and wrong for anyone but themselves since they are using a book of dubious intent.



I dont agree with statements defined by 'never' or the fallacy that all christians use in their decision making process is 'a book of dubious intent'


I actually find it a mandate of life to define right and wrong, just as we define safe and unsafe, to guide our decisions and actions

and I find it hypocritical for a person(Regardless of any religious label) to feel things to be right or wrong 'only' for them

its like saying, hey, this is alright for me to do but not for you to do,,,thats hypocritical in most situations

similarly is saying, this isnt alright for me, but its fine for you,,,

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Wed 05/25/11 09:04 PM


Agreed, Msharmony, that is why the bible should never be used to govern all people at any level. It is too subjective.

That is why Christians should not be allowed to determine right and wrong for anyone but themselves since they are using a book of dubious intent.



I dont agree with statements defined by 'never' or the fallacy that all christians use in their decision making process is 'a book of dubious intent'


I actually find it a mandate of life to define right and wrong, just as we define safe and unsafe, to guide our decisions and actions

and I find it hypocritical for a person(Regardless of any religious label) to feel things to be right or wrong 'only' for them

its like saying, hey, this is alright for me to do but not for you to do,,,thats hypocritical in most situations

similarly is saying, this isnt alright for me, but its fine for you,,,



I don't understand your answer msharmony. Are you arguing that Christians should be allowed to determine right and wrong for everyone else because they believe they know better than anyone else?


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Wed 05/25/11 09:09 PM



Agreed, Msharmony, that is why the bible should never be used to govern all people at any level. It is too subjective.

That is why Christians should not be allowed to determine right and wrong for anyone but themselves since they are using a book of dubious intent.



I dont agree with statements defined by 'never' or the fallacy that all christians use in their decision making process is 'a book of dubious intent'


I actually find it a mandate of life to define right and wrong, just as we define safe and unsafe, to guide our decisions and actions

and I find it hypocritical for a person(Regardless of any religious label) to feel things to be right or wrong 'only' for them

its like saying, hey, this is alright for me to do but not for you to do,,,thats hypocritical in most situations

similarly is saying, this isnt alright for me, but its fine for you,,,



I don't understand your answer msharmony. Are you arguing that Christians should be allowed to determine right and wrong for everyone else because they believe they know better than anyone else?




No. I did not qualify whether christians know better. I only stated a disagreement with this statement

that is why the bible should never be used to govern all people at any level. It is too subjective


I dont agree with never statements, ,,for instance, the bible says thou shalt not murder,,,,

of course the bible is not the ONLY place one can come to this conclusion(or any other), but if someone did come to this conclusion through resources which INCLUDED the bible, should that conclusion than be thrown out MERELY because it was in the bible? I dont think it should.

just about any viewpoint is subjective, but in a culture we do have viewpoints that are shared by a majority and that is often how laws and customs are made,,,which I find inevitable(neither good nor bad)


I disagree with the notion that a christian should be any more forbiden than anyone else to take part in that majority or in the decision making processes that majority is privileged/responsible for implementing

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