Topic: Faith versus Fear
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Tue 03/22/11 06:19 PM
CeriseRose.

First, your bold type hurts my eyes and it is like you are shouting at me.

Second, you come off too arrogant and self righteous to deserve any words of wisdom from me.

If your belief serves you well and makes you a better person, then I am happy for you, but don't presume to know what I understand about what the Bible means.

Practice what you preach.

professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:22

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Tue 03/22/11 06:31 PM

Man is powerless without Almighty God, his Maker.


Have you ever actually stopped and thought about how detrimental that sort of idea is to one's psyche? What good loving parent tells their child that? None that I know. Yet if God does, it's ok? You ought to listen to yourself sometimes, maybe then you'd see how insane you sound.

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Tue 03/22/11 06:36 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 03/22/11 06:37 PM


Man is powerless without Almighty God, his Maker.


Have you ever actually stopped and thought about how detrimental that sort of idea is to one's psyche? What good loving parent tells their child that? None that I know. Yet if God does, it's ok? You ought to listen to yourself sometimes, maybe then you'd see how insane you sound.



Yes, it just sounds over the top. Purely insane rambling. It does not make sense to a logical thinking person.

It is insane because the people who say these things can't come close to defining or describing God, except to say that he is the creator.

I'm not even a true atheist and that makes no sense to me....









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Tue 03/22/11 06:54 PM

CeriseRose.

First, your bold type hurts my eyes and it is like you are shouting at me.

Second, you come off too arrogant and self righteous to deserve any words of wisdom from me.

If your belief serves you well and makes you a better person, then I am happy for you, but don't presume to know what I understand about what the Bible means.

Practice what you preach.

professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:22



Self-righteous, I am not. I don't claim to be a better person...

only better off...reason being: I have a sure foundation which some have ARROGANTLY rejected .

Looks like some people can dish it out, but can't take it.

There's plenty evidence that you don't know what the Bible means.

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Tue 03/22/11 06:57 PM



Man is powerless without Almighty God, his Maker.


Have you ever actually stopped and thought about how detrimental that sort of idea is to one's psyche? What good loving parent tells their child that? None that I know. Yet if God does, it's ok? You ought to listen to yourself sometimes, maybe then you'd see how insane you sound.



Yes, it just sounds over the top. Purely insane rambling. It does not make sense to a logical thinking person.

It is insane because the people who say these things can't come close to defining or describing God, except to say that he is the creator.

I'm not even a true atheist and that makes no sense to me....











And what or who gives both of you the authority to judge what is "insane"???

Surely it can't be anything "logical"....




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Tue 03/22/11 07:01 PM
Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Tue 03/22/11 07:02 PM


CeriseRose.

First, your bold type hurts my eyes and it is like you are shouting at me.

Second, you come off too arrogant and self righteous to deserve any words of wisdom from me.

If your belief serves you well and makes you a better person, then I am happy for you, but don't presume to know what I understand about what the Bible means.

Practice what you preach.

professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:22




Self-righteous, I am not. I don't claim to be a better person...

only better off...reason being: I have a sure foundation which some have ARROGANTLY rejected .

Looks like some people can dish it out, but can't take it.

There's plenty evidence that you don't know what the Bible means.


CeriseRose, you should have just pointed out the hypocrisy above...

I've bolded and italicized the pertinent words.



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Tue 03/22/11 07:04 PM



CeriseRose.

First, your bold type hurts my eyes and it is like you are shouting at me.

Second, you come off too arrogant and self righteous to deserve any words of wisdom from me.

If your belief serves you well and makes you a better person, then I am happy for you, but don't presume to know what I understand about what the Bible means.

Practice what you preach.

professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:22




Self-righteous, I am not. I don't claim to be a better person...

only better off...reason being: I have a sure foundation which some have ARROGANTLY rejected .

Looks like some people can dish it out, but can't take it.

There's plenty evidence that you don't know what the Bible means.


CeriseRose, you should have just pointed out the hypocrisy above...

I've bolded and italicized the pertinent words.





Ok, Peter pan...nice catch!!!

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Tue 03/22/11 07:07 PM




Man is powerless without Almighty God, his Maker.


Have you ever actually stopped and thought about how detrimental that sort of idea is to one's psyche? What good loving parent tells their child that? None that I know. Yet if God does, it's ok? You ought to listen to yourself sometimes, maybe then you'd see how insane you sound.



Yes, it just sounds over the top. Purely insane rambling. It does not make sense to a logical thinking person.

It is insane because the people who say these things can't come close to defining or describing God, except to say that he is the creator.

I'm not even a true atheist and that makes no sense to me....











And what or who gives both of you the authority to judge what is "insane"???

Surely it can't be anything "logical"....






Who gives you the authority? A book? Please.

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Tue 03/22/11 07:09 PM


CeriseRose.

First, your bold type hurts my eyes and it is like you are shouting at me.

Second, you come off too arrogant and self righteous to deserve any words of wisdom from me.

If your belief serves you well and makes you a better person, then I am happy for you, but don't presume to know what I understand about what the Bible means.

Practice what you preach.

professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:22



Self-righteous, I am not. I don't claim to be a better person...

only better off...reason being: I have a sure foundation which some have ARROGANTLY rejected .

Looks like some people can dish it out, but can't take it.

There's plenty evidence that you don't know what the Bible means.



You don't have to actually "claim" to be a better person to come off appearing as if you think you are a better or wiser person.

Using scripture out of context to imply that someone is a "fool" or to insult someone: is that what the Bible is for?

As for "rejecting your "sure foundation" I have no reason to reject anything unless it is shoved in my face.

I'm very happy for you that you think you are "better off" but to be quite honest, I don't really care about that, but I will take your word for it.

As for dishing it out and taking it, I don't know what you are referring to. But if you want to dish something out, just don't shout using caps or bold type or I won't bother to read it, it makes me go cross eyed.

I am willing to discuss anything about the topic and if you want to post scripture from the Bible, I will then answer you by posting scripture from some of my favorite books. Maybe even the Urantia book.






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Tue 03/22/11 07:11 PM



And what or who gives both of you the authority to judge what is "insane"???

Surely it can't be anything "logical"....




Sanity.

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Tue 03/22/11 07:11 PM

I am willing to discuss anything about the topic and if you want to post scripture from the Bible, I will then answer you by posting scripture from some of my favorite books. Maybe even the Urantia book.


Notice how common that is? Any argument against their book and religion they use the book. How does that work? Of course the book is gonna agree with them, because it's slanted that way!

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Tue 03/22/11 07:14 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 03/22/11 07:15 PM
Peter_Pan69 said:




CeriseRose, you should have just pointed out the hypocrisy above...

I've bolded and italicized the pertinent words.




There is no hypocrisy. I am aware my own wisdom. You don't have to agree, but I am perfectly free to decide if a person is receptive and deserving of what I have to say.




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Tue 03/22/11 07:21 PM

Peter_Pan69 said:




CeriseRose, you should have just pointed out the hypocrisy above...

I've bolded and italicized the pertinent words.




There is no hypocrisy. I am aware my own wisdom. You don't have to agree, but I am perfectly free to decide if a person is receptive and deserving of what I have to say.






Practice what you preach...

"professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:22



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Tue 03/22/11 07:22 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 03/22/11 07:23 PM


Peter_Pan69 said:




CeriseRose, you should have just pointed out the hypocrisy above...

I've bolded and italicized the pertinent words.




There is no hypocrisy. I am aware my own wisdom. You don't have to agree, but I am perfectly free to decide if a person is receptive and deserving of what I have to say.






Practice what you preach...

"professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:22




Your opinion of what is wise is your own personal opinion. You certainly have a right to it.

I don't profess to be wise. I am aware of my wisdom. You are not.

Using scripture to imply a person is a fool is not very flattering on your part.


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Tue 03/22/11 07:25 PM





Man is powerless without Almighty God, his Maker.


Have you ever actually stopped and thought about how detrimental that sort of idea is to one's psyche? What good loving parent tells their child that? None that I know. Yet if God does, it's ok? You ought to listen to yourself sometimes, maybe then you'd see how insane you sound.



Yes, it just sounds over the top. Purely insane rambling. It does not make sense to a logical thinking person.

It is insane because the people who say these things can't come close to defining or describing God, except to say that he is the creator.

I'm not even a true atheist and that makes no sense to me....











And what or who gives both of you the authority to judge what is "insane"???

Surely it can't be anything "logical"....






Who gives you the authority? A book? Please.


I haven't called anyone insane, now have I?




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Tue 03/22/11 07:27 PM
Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Tue 03/22/11 07:27 PM



Peter_Pan69 said:




CeriseRose, you should have just pointed out the hypocrisy above...

I've bolded and italicized the pertinent words.




There is no hypocrisy. I am aware my own wisdom. You don't have to agree, but I am perfectly free to decide if a person is receptive and deserving of what I have to say.






Practice what you preach...

"professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:22




Your opinion of what is wise is your own personal opinion. You certainly have a right to it.

I don't profess to be wise. I am aware of my wisdom. You are not.

Using scripture to imply a person is a fool is not very flattering on your part.




But I'm not "using scripture", I'm using your own words...



Calling someone insane is not flattering on your part...



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Tue 03/22/11 07:28 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 03/22/11 07:29 PM




Peter_Pan69 said:




CeriseRose, you should have just pointed out the hypocrisy above...

I've bolded and italicized the pertinent words.




There is no hypocrisy. I am aware my own wisdom. You don't have to agree, but I am perfectly free to decide if a person is receptive and deserving of what I have to say.






Practice what you preach...

"professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:22




Your opinion of what is wise is your own personal opinion. You certainly have a right to it.

I don't profess to be wise. I am aware of my wisdom. You are not.

Using scripture to imply a person is a fool is not very flattering on your part.




But I'm not "using scripture", I'm using your own words...



Calling someone insane is not flattering on your part...





This is scripture: You posted it.

"professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:22

CeriseRose posted it first.

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Tue 03/22/11 07:29 PM






Man is powerless without Almighty God, his Maker.


Have you ever actually stopped and thought about how detrimental that sort of idea is to one's psyche? What good loving parent tells their child that? None that I know. Yet if God does, it's ok? You ought to listen to yourself sometimes, maybe then you'd see how insane you sound.



Yes, it just sounds over the top. Purely insane rambling. It does not make sense to a logical thinking person.

It is insane because the people who say these things can't come close to defining or describing God, except to say that he is the creator.

I'm not even a true atheist and that makes no sense to me....











And what or who gives both of you the authority to judge what is "insane"???

Surely it can't be anything "logical"....







Who gives you the authority? A book? Please.


I haven't called anyone insane, now have I?






No but you judge who is right and wrong by the thing.

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Tue 03/22/11 07:34 PM
Peter_Pan69 wrote:

Calling someone insane is not flattering on your part...



That's okay with me. I am not trying to make a good impression on anyone, I'm freely stating what I think. :wink: I'm not trying to impress anyone.


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Tue 03/22/11 07:35 PM







Man is powerless without Almighty God, his Maker.


Have you ever actually stopped and thought about how detrimental that sort of idea is to one's psyche? What good loving parent tells their child that? None that I know. Yet if God does, it's ok? You ought to listen to yourself sometimes, maybe then you'd see how insane you sound.



Yes, it just sounds over the top. Purely insane rambling. It does not make sense to a logical thinking person.

It is insane because the people who say these things can't come close to defining or describing God, except to say that he is the creator.

I'm not even a true atheist and that makes no sense to me....











And what or who gives both of you the authority to judge what is "insane"???

Surely it can't be anything "logical"....







Who gives you the authority? A book? Please.


I haven't called anyone insane, now have I?






No but you judge who is right and wrong by the thing.


Show me one instance where I've done that.