Anyone read this book? I read it every day and it helps me out a lot.

I DO! It's a great book. And I agree it does help one out a lot.

Yep, and the Koran, Bhagavad-Gita, Tao-Te-Ching, ad other assorted holy books.

The Qu'Ran (Koran) is not a "Holy" book. The problem with this book is that it has an "us" v. "them" mentality. Whereas the Bible preaches love, tolerance, peace, and acceptance, the Qu'Ran basically teaches how a Muslim should NOT interact with Christians. Book Five is an entire book dedicated to what not to do with Christians, because, well, they are Christian.

So, if you want to talk about the Torah, Talmud, Bible, and other books of that genre, I agree with you that they are Holy. However, to refer to the Qu'Ran as Holy does not fit, unless, of course, by Holy, you mean, Holy War.

LOL! Certainly no worse then I've found the Bible to be. The OT is full of stories of the Jews being sent to slaughter entire nations to take their land, because Yahweh told them too. And the NT isn't any better. You get to Heaven only through Jesus, or else you're totally screwed. That's as basic as us vs. them can get!

Gimme a break.

"Pearls before swine"

Yeah, I read it, cover to cover. I discovered Jesus was a false profit.

Mt. 16:28


Mt. 24:34


Mk. 9:1


There's a lot more of this kind of thing.

I find it interesting so many people believe the bible to be the word of god, but so few actually go to the trouble of reading it. But, they've read all the Harry Potter books.

I have and do read the bible, dont care for harry potter and am not sure why you conclude that Jesus is a false prophet,,,

I do read the Bible, some stories are hard to understand and is not really applicable in this time, but there are a lot of good stories as well that can really help me in my day to days lives.


Peace to ALL.

I think I understand what he is saying.

Jesus must be a false prophet because He didn't return again in their lifetime.

However, the quotes he is using here are referring to Jesus fulfilling the Old Testament by dying, rising and ascending into Heaven.

If you don't understand that is what Jesus is talking about, I can see how someone could claim He is a false prophet.

thanx for clarifying ,,

There are a lot of interesting stories in the bible. Definitely not a book that I run my life by.

Wow. Lots of great feedback here. EquusDancer raises some interesting points, and the Religion section covers them all quite nicely.

However, as we are dealing with books here, someone mentions Harry Potter. And it is true that there are people who do not read the Bible, but will read Harry Potter. I am not a fan of the Harry Potter books. I just couldn't get into them.

However, I LOVE reading the Bible. But when someone places a quote out of context, that is not good. Again, this is more about religion so all of what you mentioned actually has happened, which makes Christianity all the more true. If you have any questions about this, please post them in the Religion area, and I will be more than happy to answer them.

The quotes I gave above are Jesus' own words and they are not out of context. I gave you chapter and verse. Look it up for yourself.

Jesus himself said many times that the coming of judgement day was at hand and was coming withing a generation of his time.

You write:

"Jesus said judgment day was coming within his own generation, that many of the people listening to him wouldn't taste death before the coming of God's kingdom. It didn't happen, therefore Jesus was a false profit."

Hasn't judgment day come? After Jesus descended to hell and returned, THAT was Judgment Day. Judgment Day is exactly that - the day when each of us are judged. Before Christ died for us, we were also destined for Sheol, the realm of the dead, because of Adam's transgressions. Jesus wiped all of that way, so that we could be judged.

God's Kingdom HAS come. It's all around you. People talk about God's Kingdom as if it is something to happen. Nope, it has already happened.

It's here. Now.

Note that Jesus said, "The Kingdom of Heaven IS at hand." Not that it "will be" at hand.

Also, in Matthew 6:33, Jesus states, "Seek the Kingdom of God first and all His righteousness, and all of these things will be added unto you."

Jesus didn't say to seek this kingdom in the future. Rather, as Christ is King, when he said those words, what he was saying was that The Kingdom was available THEN.

Everything He said happened. You are proving the truth of Jesus, and I thank you for that.

This is exactly what I was saying about no one reading the bible.

According to the gospels, Jesus preached that God was going to come to earth and do away with all the crummy kingdoms of men and set up his own kingdom here on Earth and that it was going to happen within his own generation.

This is the view taught to minsters while they are going to school. All biblical scholars agree on this.

Really. Jesus said He was going to do this? I do recall Him saying that he will rebuild the temple in three days. I don't recall Him saying what you wrote.

Can you quote where in the Bible Jesus said what you wrote? Thanks.

Do you have a bible? All you have to do is read the words of Jesus.

No, he didn't say HE was going to do it. He said God was going to do it and that the "son of man" wold judge everyone. Everyone assumes Jesus to be the son of man, but Jesus never said he was the son of man.

TexasScoundrel, why are you being so harsh with your tone? You are a hypocrite, and here is why.

You claim there are others who do not read the Bible, and yet, I do not believe you actually have read this book. Instead, I think you pick out a few quotes, take them out of context, and try to use that as leverage. You then spout out something of ignorance.

Here is what YOU said:

"According to the gospels, Jesus preached that God was going to come to earth and do away with all the crummy kingdoms of men and set up his own kingdom here on Earth and that it was going to happen within his own generation."

This is absolutely NOT in the gospels. I have read the Bible, and so, I know this to be true. If you claim that it is, feel free to post exactly where you found this information. Otherwise, you are merely stating your own opinions, and not quoting scripture.

If you cannot quote where this is in the Bible, then it is not in the Bible. Pure and simple.

And so, I have read the words of Jesus, and can quote them. I am waiting for you to do the same.

Now, let's look at your quotes:

"Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

Has not Jesus come into His kingdom? You may or may not agree that He has, but that is His reference.

For your second quote, that is part of a parable (The Parable of the Fig Tree). Jesus uses stories (parables) to make a point.

Here is the full context:

"“Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. So you also, when you see all these things, know that it[d] is near—at the doors! Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away."

Jesus was referring to the signs of the times. As a recommendation, please quote the whole scripture, and not one verse, and take it out of contwxt.

As to your last quote, again, here is the full context:

When He had called the people to Himself, with His disciples also, He said to them, “Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels. Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power."

The Kingdom of God HAS come with power. Why? Because many have realized that, as Jesus said, and you failed to quote, " For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?."

Thanks again for proving my points about Christianity. Are there any more items you would like to quote out of context? If so, please let me know, and I will be glad to quote them correctly for you.

(sighs deeply}

How about Mark 13:24. for a start. Read that and the next several verses.