Topic: Looking for successful men,
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Mon 12/27/10 12:10 PM




But I imagine for most women by "sucess" they probqbly DO mean "Have a job and a life"

(I'm going to generalize here, sorry)
Women don't want to be with a man who is an unemployed, unambitious, lump, any more that we want a womsn with those same qualities. Gold digging men DO exist,and I think a lot of women are worried about being taken advantage of as well. (True, some females will date pondscum in the hopes that hey can change him, but typically, hese are GIRLS not real WOMEN IMO)



I so agree...

I can see why it might be construed as "gold digger" but hopefully they just mean it as you explained it..

I'm with Sing.. I I can't respect a man that would expect me to support him...


Krupa as always you slay me... laugh laugh laugh



What about a woman expecting a man to support her?

IndnPrncs's photo
Mon 12/27/10 12:57 PM





But I imagine for most women by "sucess" they probqbly DO mean "Have a job and a life"

(I'm going to generalize here, sorry)
Women don't want to be with a man who is an unemployed, unambitious, lump, any more that we want a womsn with those same qualities. Gold digging men DO exist,and I think a lot of women are worried about being taken advantage of as well. (True, some females will date pondscum in the hopes that hey can change him, but typically, hese are GIRLS not real WOMEN IMO)



I so agree...

I can see why it might be construed as "gold digger" but hopefully they just mean it as you explained it..

I'm with Sing.. I I can't respect a man that would expect me to support him...


Krupa as always you slay me... laugh laugh laugh



What about a woman expecting a man to support her?


I don't know any of those types of women and I don't date women so can't speak for what another should expect, I was speaking for myself.. But I'd have to say the same rule would apply...

Beachfarmer's photo
Mon 12/27/10 12:59 PM

I have this thing about successful men.... they really aren't much good for much if they aren't....

































...successful at being men!noway laugh


love I will ALWAYS move the dishes before peeing in the sink sweetheart!

josie68's photo
Tue 12/28/10 12:50 AM
Edited by josie68 on Tue 12/28/10 12:55 AM


Although I would never ask for a successful man,
After having two husbands who would rather me look after them than get off their own bums, I would really appreciate a man who will work.
I dont care if he owns anything, but i do care about his principles.

So for me I would want a worker, someone who knows how to sweatand work his butt off, Not so much an office boy, someone who doesnt drink or smoke and someone who will love me.. love So easy

That is my criteria


flowerforyou

That is the most honest thing I have seen written yet! It is women like you that give me just a tiny bit of hope for mankind!

Now don't get happy people, I said a TINY bit of hope!

One thing that killed the whole relationship concept as I knew it was having a GF with kids and swallowing a lot of responsibility that was not mine. Just taxiing kids to and from school wreaked havoc with my work schedule. Then there was the loss of income when I had to take time off of work to run kids somewhere or pick them up. Worst was being the poor bastard who was improving the house and not getting paid taking me away from more work that did pay. Now don't get me wrong. In that situation I had weight to pull and some of it was not mine. It also came with a financial burden to me and cost me income. I did it for love but it wasn't enough. There is always the ever present need for more.

I think one serious problem I would have is being involved with someone who was able to live the higher lifestyle and then there would be the expectation that I would have to "fit the image" when I would loose my income to it. Or even worst is the animosity when I would have some huge job like the one I got now and I am working all the time. It would be one thing to knowingly become involved with me and her telling me to quit my job because she will take care of me so WE can have fun together rather than her deciding she is going to say Hawaii and I can't go becasue I have a job I have to work and suddenly I am a fuqued up bastard and she hates me because I put work in front of her! I am so SICK and tired of having my responsibility treated like an inconvenience!

Believe me, I would LOVE to be able to live a life where I didn't have to work and could devote my time to being an artist again. I live to create. But the bills do not pay themselves and I want to make something respectable of myself. I cannot do that as a dog on a leash and there are men who will live like that so long as they don't have to work (toil). As long as they can be pampered and preened and wear the finest cloths and drive a BMW what do they care? Likewise being beholdant to another person is WEAK! Men who live pampered lived under women who are wealthy are so disrespectable to me. These men typically prey on the loneliness of wealthy but dysfunctional women anyways. These are women who can't handle a real man because a real man CAN walk away from money!



But in the same breath pampered women are weak and to me essentially worthless. Very few have any talent and they let it waste away since they have no need to further themselves. In the world of Wolves even the females have to kill to eat.



surprised


Everyone wants to sit on the top of the mountain but the problem is there isn't much room at the top.
:banana:


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Oh my Gosh please don't tell me that America is that mixed up.
Honestly the Australian hero is Our Diggers and our Backbone are our Aussie Battlers.
Our Diggers are the men who put their lives on the line to save us in our wars, and our young boys who still do. We dont remember our prime ministers they are the ones who send our boys out and mess up the country . AOur Aussie Battlers are just our everyday hard working peole who get off their bums and keep our country moving.
Really the people who sit in the big chairs and make the decisions are the ones who muck our country up. We tend to pull down the people who think they are better than us.
Why would we want to live a high life where everything is pretend, when we can have a Barbie and be surrounded by our mates.
There is no worth in having money if you have to tread on someone else to get it. if you have money because you have worked your butt off Great i can respect that, but not some fancy pants bogan who thinks he is something special because he knows how to dance and shine his fingernails. Here that is someone we would make fun of.

And really if you where working I dont see why you would stop to pick children up, didnt your wife have legs. if you where doing the work, Then someone else needed to organise the kids. sorry but you should have said no, You are the man and your job is important. so stop worry about what has happened and find someone who sees the worth in who you are.
My ex had 10 kids and i have 6, none of them where a problem, if he worked i ran them around if i worked he did. its not a big deal all any child needs is to be loved.

tongue2 Really though, i have been married 3 times, twice to the same man, and though they wouldnt know how to work if it killed them that doesnt mean I will think the same of all men. it just means that i was a crappy man picker.

So stop worrying about who is going to get your stuff, because if you find a women who loves YOU, and not your things, then you wont have to worry at all. and remember YOU are the one who is choosing who comes into your life. You dont have to pick a loser or a user. Pick someone who loves a man who can get his hands dirty, someone who is happy to just want you and not the fancy places, Honestly what is the point of taking a holiday alone, find someone who wants to share your life, not just share what your life has given you.

Sorry I do tend to ramble, but so do you.

So Stop Complaing and find the women of your dreams she has to be there somewhere, and if you dont. Pack up Move to Australia where the women love an honest man who will work and get his hands dirty.
Where you will be respected for what you do not who you are. tongue2

Sorry about the lecture, but you need itflowerforyou

Jess642's photo
Tue 12/28/10 01:40 AM



love I will ALWAYS move the dishes before peeing in the sink sweetheart!



....now that's a successful at being a man, man!!!!smitten



waving tongue2

Jess642's photo
Tue 12/28/10 01:45 AM
Edited by Jess642 on Tue 12/28/10 01:48 AM



Oh my Gosh please don't tell me that America is that mixed up.

Honestly the Australian hero is Our Diggers and our Backbone are our Aussie Battlers.

Our Diggers are the men who put their lives on the line to save us in our wars, and our young boys who still do. We dont remember our prime ministers they are the ones who send our boys out and mess up the country .

AOur Aussie Battlers are just our everyday hard working peole who get off their bums and keep our country moving.

Really the people who sit in the big chairs and make the decisions are the ones who muck our country up. We tend to pull down the people who think they are better than us.

Why would we want to live a high life where everything is pretend, when we can have a Barbie and be surrounded by our mates?

There is no worth in having money if you have to tread on someone else to get it. if you have money because you have worked your butt off,.. Great!... i can respect that, but not some fancy pants bogan who thinks he is something special because he knows how to dance and shine his fingernails.

Here that is someone we would make fun of.

And really, if you were working I dont see why you would stop to pick children up, didn't your wife have legs?

if you where doing the work, then someone else needed to organise the kids.
sorry but you should have said no, You are the man and your job is important.

so stop worrying about what has happened and find someone who sees the worth in who you are.

My ex had 10 kids and i have 6, none of them were a problem, if he worked i ran them around, if i worked he did.
its not a big deal all any child needs is to be loved.

tongue2 Really though, i have been married 3 times, twice to the same man, and though they wouldnt know how to work if it killed them, that doesnt mean I will think the same of all men.

it just means that i was a crappy man picker.

So stop worrying about who is going to get your stuff, because if you find a women who loves YOU, and not your things, then you wont have to worry at all.

....and remember YOU are the one who is choosing who comes into your life. You dont have to pick a loser or a user. Pick someone who loves a man who can get his hands dirty, someone who is happy to just want you and not the fancy places,

Honestly what is the point of taking a holiday alone?

find someone who wants to share your life, not just share what your life has given you.

Sorry I do tend to ramble, but so do you.

So Stop Complaing and find the women of your dreams, she has to be there somewhere.

.... and if you dont, Pack up, Move to Australia where the women love an honest man who will work and get his hands dirty,
where you will be respected for what you do, not who you are. tongue2

Sorry about the lecture, but you need itflowerforyou



Am standing up typing with my nose, because my hands are busy applauding!!!

SING IT, SISTER!!!!


....the only thing I disagree with, is we aussies typically dont give a damn what you do for a living, as long as you get off your arse and work...... it's the WHO of you, the person within, the character of the man, not his fricken brand name status symbol BS, that interests us.

no photo
Tue 12/28/10 04:06 AM






But I imagine for most women by "sucess" they probqbly DO mean "Have a job and a life"

(I'm going to generalize here, sorry)
Women don't want to be with a man who is an unemployed, unambitious, lump, any more that we want a womsn with those same qualities. Gold digging men DO exist,and I think a lot of women are worried about being taken advantage of as well. (True, some females will date pondscum in the hopes that hey can change him, but typically, hese are GIRLS not real WOMEN IMO)



I so agree...

I can see why it might be construed as "gold digger" but hopefully they just mean it as you explained it..

I'm with Sing.. I I can't respect a man that would expect me to support him...


Krupa as always you slay me... laugh laugh laugh



What about a woman expecting a man to support her?


I don't know any of those types of women and I don't date women so can't speak for what another should expect, I was speaking for myself.. But I'd have to say the same rule would apply...


I agree. Same rule should apply.

no photo
Tue 12/28/10 04:09 AM



Please, is my perspective fuqued up or am I in an environment that is filled with too many shallow people and I am building a generalization of my immediate environment that seems to include everywhere else??? Like I said, I get out of LA and things seem so different for me. At least us "Construction workers" (COUGH COUGH! Yeah, I'm just a construction worker laugh ) have common courtesy among all of us.




I don't know women like you have described, so to me, it sounds a bit off. You do seem to be generalizing quite a bit, though. But, you also have to realize that people have preferences. You are not going to fit into everyone's preferences.

josie68's photo
Tue 12/28/10 07:38 AM




Oh my Gosh please don't tell me that America is that mixed up.

Honestly the Australian hero is Our Diggers and our Backbone are our Aussie Battlers.

Our Diggers are the men who put their lives on the line to save us in our wars, and our young boys who still do. We dont remember our prime ministers they are the ones who send our boys out and mess up the country .

AOur Aussie Battlers are just our everyday hard working peole who get off their bums and keep our country moving.

Really the people who sit in the big chairs and make the decisions are the ones who muck our country up. We tend to pull down the people who think they are better than us.

Why would we want to live a high life where everything is pretend, when we can have a Barbie and be surrounded by our mates?

There is no worth in having money if you have to tread on someone else to get it. if you have money because you have worked your butt off,.. Great!... i can respect that, but not some fancy pants bogan who thinks he is something special because he knows how to dance and shine his fingernails.

Here that is someone we would make fun of.

And really, if you were working I dont see why you would stop to pick children up, didn't your wife have legs?

if you where doing the work, then someone else needed to organise the kids.
sorry but you should have said no, You are the man and your job is important.

so stop worrying about what has happened and find someone who sees the worth in who you are.

My ex had 10 kids and i have 6, none of them were a problem, if he worked i ran them around, if i worked he did.
its not a big deal all any child needs is to be loved.

tongue2 Really though, i have been married 3 times, twice to the same man, and though they wouldnt know how to work if it killed them, that doesnt mean I will think the same of all men.

it just means that i was a crappy man picker.

So stop worrying about who is going to get your stuff, because if you find a women who loves YOU, and not your things, then you wont have to worry at all.

....and remember YOU are the one who is choosing who comes into your life. You dont have to pick a loser or a user. Pick someone who loves a man who can get his hands dirty, someone who is happy to just want you and not the fancy places,

Honestly what is the point of taking a holiday alone?

find someone who wants to share your life, not just share what your life has given you.

Sorry I do tend to ramble, but so do you.

So Stop Complaing and find the women of your dreams, she has to be there somewhere.

.... and if you dont, Pack up, Move to Australia where the women love an honest man who will work and get his hands dirty,
where you will be respected for what you do, not who you are. tongue2

Sorry about the lecture, but you need itflowerforyou



Am standing up typing with my nose, because my hands are busy applauding!!!

SING IT, SISTER!!!!


....the only thing I disagree with, is we aussies typically dont give a damn what you do for a living, as long as you get off your arse and work...... it's the WHO of you, the person within, the character of the man, not his fricken brand name status symbol BS, that interests us.


rofl rofl rofl rofl I agree

Hmmm I think I love our aussie way of life even more, it is so uncomplicated.... Really who cares.. The bush is best

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Tue 12/28/10 08:11 AM



I live in Los Angeles, the land of the superficial. Where I work half the women will not even say hi to me when I say hi to them. They just look at me and walk past me like I am some leper. All they see is a construction worker but what thy don't know is I am a Frikken Engineer and Biologist and the guy bringing their company greater imaging! At least the people who count know and appreciate my efforts! Now if they can just see their way to tossing me a bone (bonus) especially if I am done a week ahead of everyone else I will know I am really appreciated!!! This job was like running a marathon pulling a red wagon filled with children!

What I will think is funny is when they want to see what is going on in MY lab there and I tell them to get the hell out of MY lab! That should lift an eyebrow or two! Outside of immediate employees there are only about four or five people I would not toss out of my lab unless they had an appointment! What is even funnier is that I am not a Sketchers employee. I am a contract employee. Even if they do make more than me I still am tossing unwanted visitors out of my lab no matter how good looking they are or think they are! I know who has been curtious to me and who hasn't. Stuck up people piss me off! I so want to show them what the pimp hand is for. And I do keep it strong!


So, because of these women, you think any women who prefers successful men are actually gold diggers? Other than that, I can't really see what all this has to do with your topic. Several women here have said what they mean by successful, so as you can see, we don't all think the way you seem to expect us to think.


No, I am citing personal observations. I get out of Los Angeles and the women are so different. Some of the women where I work actually a friendly enough to say Hi back at least. It isn't like I am trying to talk to them becasue I got a lot of work to do. I don't like to "piss where I eat," but a little common courtesy goes a long way.

Now for another observation, I see many women looking for successful men but when I read their profiles on this site for what little they have to say and then look at the pics they post I can make some observations about how they carry themselves. For one is if they dress like one of the Beautiful people AKA celebrities and are not they are fakers living a lifestyle that is a shallow lie anyways. These folks love to spend money and in most instances don't have enough of their own money to spend.

Frankly in life one person makes more money than another. Women looking down on a man because he makes less than her is shallow. If he is a jobless looser (cough cough House Husband) that watches TV all day or god forbid just gets fuqued up all day and does not take care of the house and the kids he is a DEADBEAT LOOSER just for the record! Women like this are likewise WORTHLESS! I hate double standards. I also don't care for worthless people. I will admit my views and opinions may be warped or skewed but hey, life does play favorites. It is an uphill battle for the rest of us. I work for affluent people and thankfully I work for those who came from humble roots themselves. How is it a billionaire will talk to me like any other person but some high dollar designer can't even just say hi?

Please, is my perspective fuqued up or am I in an environment that is filled with too many shallow people and I am building a generalization of my immediate environment that seems to include everywhere else??? Like I said, I get out of LA and things seem so different for me. At least us "Construction workers" (COUGH COUGH! Yeah, I'm just a construction worker laugh ) have common courtesy among all of us.

Frankly there are a lot of male behaviors that I find embarrassing and I find that most of us knuckle draggers want to be the Alpha male and hold sway on all the available females. I know of many men who live off of their wives and I find that appalling. Women talk about having to give things up for their kids but I notice a lot that men who give up work to take care of kids while their wives work and they keep the house (and I don't mean just picking things up but actually taking care of the house!) can fall into bad standing because he s not bringing home the bacon too. Frankly there is a tremendous difference between a deadbeat and a man taking care of business at home. When you have young kids they must have a lot of attention for their own protection or am I wrong? So when a man fills a position of role reversal suddenly he is less of a man? I see a hypocritical double standard going on here. I would like to know if I am wrong on this observation as well.

Don't get me wrong. I am trying to sort out a lot here. I guess one good question I could ask is what the hell happened to common courtesy? I feel like so many people have forgotten that one day I might be the person saving their lives? I really do try to think like that about other people (that one day they might save my life) but the more I learn about humans the more confused I get as to how we have survived as a species for so long? Hell, money gets to so many people's heads. There is indeed more to life than money!

Heck, I now feel like I am wasting my time being here with so many (cough cough) well to do women looking for a successful "guys."

I am just one of those poor bastards who struggles for success. Finally I can taste it. Like the hunting lion, that Impalla I am chasing, I am so close to it I am swatting at its feet and when I knock it down GOBBLE GOBBLE! I am not letting this one get away!!!

:banana:

And should I manage to not fuque that up for myself how should that make me feel any different about a woman looking for a successful guy? I would be happy with a decent looking woman with a good heart and real talent. I am not looking for a "Successful" woman to loach off of. When at work I am not trying to go Glen Quagmire! Usually I am buried in some god forsaken armpit of the building or behind a curtain wall. And then I log on to this site and see all these womens' profiles and so many of them and I mean a disproportionate number of them are women seeking "successful" guys. Now what does that say? God I know I am long winded but I see a depth to this that speaks volumes about human nature and my analytical nature is just going bonkers! Just the raw observation value alone! A social Psychologist should be finding this valuable data.

Back in cave man days a successful man was one who brought home dead animals. Now a days he gots' to have the house on the hill, the Bently, Geeves, and the bling.

Now at the end of all of this all I can say is I am an opinionated bastard. I will freely admit that. BUT I also am a work horse and I am not paid enough for what I do but I at least have done what many in my field have failed to do! That is stay employed. I struggle but it is my struggle. If I had a GF's economy to back mine I would be doing GREAT but the fact is I am pulling my weight barely in tough times. If that is not success then frankly everyone who feels otherwise can lick the sweat from the back of my hairy nut sack!:banana:

pitchfork GOD HOW GOOD IT FELT SAYING THAT!pitchfork

For those women who like us "(COUGH COUGH) Old Work Horses..."

drinker This old horse has a mane to be tossing around New Year's eve!drinker

So who's got their riding boots on?
pitchfork

HELL YES!


Oh no you didn't just shout a challenge for a cowgirl?!?!?! laugh

Bring it big daddy...pitchfork

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Tue 12/28/10 10:33 AM
Edited by AndyBgood on Tue 12/28/10 10:34 AM



Australia sounds nice but if I can't own guns I am not interested in living there. Visit yes but make my home in a place where people tell me I can't have teeth to defend myself with? Even Australia is plagued with Two Legged Coyotes. Why not come here? At least we don't have Funnel Web Spiders and Tai Pans to contend with.

Yes America IS that mixed up. Even the "Poor" (COUGH COUGH GAG WRETCH!) women here got attitudes.

I agree with the statement that one person will not 'fit the mold' others seek. BUT likewise sizing a man or woman up by bank account is SHALLOW! What sucks is being stuck in a bad position, being kicked around, and having "the beautiful" people kick you more while you are trying to climb up out of the murk of poverty. A lot and I mean A LOT of foreign women try to marry Americans just to get out of their countries. Once they get a taste of the American way of life and realize they can divorce suddenly they want half of everything and ditch the guy she married to seek out a "better" husband. I have personally seen this happen not once but several times.

Also I have never been married EVER! I don't need a piece of paper to justify a relationship. I don't need a piece of paper to "Legally" have kids. Frankly the woman I settle for has to be better than the sum of what I see around me. Until then I am a free range stallion. Likewise I would like to ask a question, If and IF I really were a successful man (and bear in mind some of us find the opportunity and take it) why should I settle for just one woman when I can keep several? If my success is what they want then hey, what about what I want? When money is an issue in a relationship this BS comes up.

It is so easy for men and women to say "I love you" but proving it is a whole different matter!

And to those women who have made it clear they don't fly like Gold Diggers,



My hat is off for you!

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Tue 12/28/10 10:51 AM




Australia sounds nice but if I can't own guns I am not interested in living there. Visit yes but make my home in a place where people tell me I can't have teeth to defend myself with? Even Australia is plagued with Two Legged Coyotes. Why not come here? At least we don't have Funnel Web Spiders and Tai Pans to contend with.

Yes America IS that mixed up. Even the "Poor" (COUGH COUGH GAG WRETCH!) women here got attitudes.

I agree with the statement that one person will not 'fit the mold' others seek. BUT likewise sizing a man or woman up by bank account is SHALLOW! What sucks is being stuck in a bad position, being kicked around, and having "the beautiful" people kick you more while you are trying to climb up out of the murk of poverty. A lot and I mean A LOT of foreign women try to marry Americans just to get out of their countries. Once they get a taste of the American way of life and realize they can divorce suddenly they want half of everything and ditch the guy she married to seek out a "better" husband. I have personally seen this happen not once but several times.

Also I have never been married EVER! I don't need a piece of paper to justify a relationship. I don't need a piece of paper to "Legally" have kids. Frankly the woman I settle for has to be better than the sum of what I see around me. Until then I am a free range stallion. Likewise I would like to ask a question, If and IF I really were a successful man (and bear in mind some of us find the opportunity and take it) why should I settle for just one woman when I can keep several? If my success is what they want then hey, what about what I want? When money is an issue in a relationship this BS comes up.

It is so easy for men and women to say "I love you" but proving it is a whole different matter!

And to those women who have made it clear they don't fly like Gold Diggers,



My hat is off for you!


Oh Wow, honestly i would rather suck crap out of the dunny than have a man who slept with other women, Love is wanting someone with everything in you, NOT JUST WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG ND SEXY BUT AS THEY GET OLDER. Its about looking forward to going home, not wishing tht you didnt. Wht is the point of being with someone if you dont have that. Why would you only want half of that.Honestly to me and I will always say what i think, if you think that its ok to do that , what is the difference between you and someone who just wants your money. I have had it done to me and truthfully i would have rathtered they took my money my home cars and everything then tread on my heart and squash it into the dirt.it not only breaks you apart but leaves you scared and full of self doubt that no matter what anyone says will always be there. you are left forever wondering wht is wrong with you.
So No real man is ever ever ever ever going to do that. And who could ever respect a man who did.

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 12/28/10 02:21 PM





Australia sounds nice but if I can't own guns I am not interested in living there. Visit yes but make my home in a place where people tell me I can't have teeth to defend myself with? Even Australia is plagued with Two Legged Coyotes. Why not come here? At least we don't have Funnel Web Spiders and Tai Pans to contend with.

Yes America IS that mixed up. Even the "Poor" (COUGH COUGH GAG WRETCH!) women here got attitudes.

I agree with the statement that one person will not 'fit the mold' others seek. BUT likewise sizing a man or woman up by bank account is SHALLOW! What sucks is being stuck in a bad position, being kicked around, and having "the beautiful" people kick you more while you are trying to climb up out of the murk of poverty. A lot and I mean A LOT of foreign women try to marry Americans just to get out of their countries. Once they get a taste of the American way of life and realize they can divorce suddenly they want half of everything and ditch the guy she married to seek out a "better" husband. I have personally seen this happen not once but several times.

Also I have never been married EVER! I don't need a piece of paper to justify a relationship. I don't need a piece of paper to "Legally" have kids. Frankly the woman I settle for has to be better than the sum of what I see around me. Until then I am a free range stallion. Likewise I would like to ask a question, If and IF I really were a successful man (and bear in mind some of us find the opportunity and take it) why should I settle for just one woman when I can keep several? If my success is what they want then hey, what about what I want? When money is an issue in a relationship this BS comes up.

It is so easy for men and women to say "I love you" but proving it is a whole different matter!

And to those women who have made it clear they don't fly like Gold Diggers,



My hat is off for you!


Oh Wow, honestly i would rather suck crap out of the dunny than have a man who slept with other women, Love is wanting someone with everything in you, NOT JUST WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG ND SEXY BUT AS THEY GET OLDER. Its about looking forward to going home, not wishing tht you didnt. Wht is the point of being with someone if you dont have that. Why would you only want half of that.Honestly to me and I will always say what i think, if you think that its ok to do that , what is the difference between you and someone who just wants your money. I have had it done to me and truthfully i would have rathtered they took my money my home cars and everything then tread on my heart and squash it into the dirt.it not only breaks you apart but leaves you scared and full of self doubt that no matter what anyone says will always be there. you are left forever wondering wht is wrong with you.
So No real man is ever ever ever ever going to do that. And who could ever respect a man who did.


Oddly there are things that the American public respect that makes me wonder what the hell they are thinking about. Hugh Heffner marries a girl 60 years younger than himself and everyone is congratulating him. If I did the same thing people would be out to crucify me (and at this time in my life that is an utter impossibility since I am not 70 to 80 years old!) Movie Stars are so FAKE! I have worked for my share of celebrities. A few of them are real people who remember life on our side of the tracks. The rest are all too much into themselves and people here fall into those cults of personality. Hell, drug dealers, criminals, and violent people are too glorified here. Example, the BBC show Dr. Who. Some Yanks like that show a lot (ME ME ME ME ME! Dr. Who is for intelligent viewers.) but it never really went over anywhere near as big as it did in the UK. If it had more boobs, violence, and people getting eaten by gelatinous blobs from space Americans in general would like the show more, especially if Dr. Who looked like Arnold and carried around bitchen future weaponry.

I think this is what a lot of Americans use their brain for,



A door stop.

josie68's photo
Tue 12/28/10 02:35 PM
So sad where do honesty and hard work come into your lives.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/28/10 04:21 PM

successful is in the eye of the beholder


<---- This eye says hum-a-da, hum-a-da!

Hello there buttons.

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Tue 12/28/10 04:24 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 12/28/10 04:30 PM



Although I would never ask for a successful man,
After having two husbands who would rather me look after them than get off their own bums, I would really appreciate a man who will work.
I dont care if he owns anything, but i do care about his principles.

So for me I would want a worker, someone who knows how to sweatand work his butt off, Not so much an office boy, someone who doesnt drink or smoke and someone who will love me.. love So easy

That is my criteria


flowerforyou

That is the most honest thing I have seen written yet! It is women like you that give me just a tiny bit of hope for mankind!

Now don't get happy people, I said a TINY bit of hope!

One thing that killed the whole relationship concept as I knew it was having a GF with kids and swallowing a lot of responsibility that was not mine. Just taxiing kids to and from school wreaked havoc with my work schedule. Then there was the loss of income when I had to take time off of work to run kids somewhere or pick them up. Worst was being the poor bastard who was improving the house and not getting paid taking me away from more work that did pay. Now don't get me wrong. In that situation I had weight to pull and some of it was not mine. It also came with a financial burden to me and cost me income. I did it for love but it wasn't enough. There is always the ever present need for more.

I think one serious problem I would have is being involved with someone who was able to live the higher lifestyle and then there would be the expectation that I would have to "fit the image" when I would loose my income to it. Or even worst is the animosity when I would have some huge job like the one I got now and I am working all the time. It would be one thing to knowingly become involved with me and her telling me to quit my job because she will take care of me so WE can have fun together rather than her deciding she is going to say Hawaii and I can't go becasue I have a job I have to work and suddenly I am a fuqued up bastard and she hates me because I put work in front of her! I am so SICK and tired of having my responsibility treated like an inconvenience!

Believe me, I would LOVE to be able to live a life where I didn't have to work and could devote my time to being an artist again. I live to create. But the bills do not pay themselves and I want to make something respectable of myself. I cannot do that as a dog on a leash and there are men who will live like that so long as they don't have to work (toil). As long as they can be pampered and preened and wear the finest cloths and drive a BMW what do they care? Likewise being beholdant to another person is WEAK! Men who live pampered lived under women who are wealthy are so disrespectable to me. These men typically prey on the loneliness of wealthy but dysfunctional women anyways. These are women who can't handle a real man because a real man CAN walk away from money!



But in the same breath pampered women are weak and to me essentially worthless. Very few have any talent and they let it waste away since they have no need to further themselves. In the world of Wolves even the females have to kill to eat.



surprised


Everyone wants to sit on the top of the mountain but the problem is there isn't much room at the top.
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rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Oh my Gosh please don't tell me that America is that mixed up.
Honestly the Australian hero is Our Diggers and our Backbone are our Aussie Battlers.
Our Diggers are the men who put their lives on the line to save us in our wars, and our young boys who still do. We dont remember our prime ministers they are the ones who send our boys out and mess up the country . AOur Aussie Battlers are just our everyday hard working peole who get off their bums and keep our country moving.
Really the people who sit in the big chairs and make the decisions are the ones who muck our country up. We tend to pull down the people who think they are better than us.
Why would we want to live a high life where everything is pretend, when we can have a Barbie and be surrounded by our mates.
There is no worth in having money if you have to tread on someone else to get it. if you have money because you have worked your butt off Great i can respect that, but not some fancy pants bogan who thinks he is something special because he knows how to dance and shine his fingernails. Here that is someone we would make fun of.

And really if you where working I dont see why you would stop to pick children up, didnt your wife have legs. if you where doing the work, Then someone else needed to organise the kids. sorry but you should have said no, You are the man and your job is important. so stop worry about what has happened and find someone who sees the worth in who you are.
My ex had 10 kids and i have 6, none of them where a problem, if he worked i ran them around if i worked he did. its not a big deal all any child needs is to be loved.

tongue2 Really though, i have been married 3 times, twice to the same man, and though they wouldnt know how to work if it killed them that doesnt mean I will think the same of all men. it just means that i was a crappy man picker.

So stop worrying about who is going to get your stuff, because if you find a women who loves YOU, and not your things, then you wont have to worry at all. and remember YOU are the one who is choosing who comes into your life. You dont have to pick a loser or a user. Pick someone who loves a man who can get his hands dirty, someone who is happy to just want you and not the fancy places, Honestly what is the point of taking a holiday alone, find someone who wants to share your life, not just share what your life has given you.

Sorry I do tend to ramble, but so do you.

So Stop Complaing and find the women of your dreams she has to be there somewhere, and if you dont. Pack up Move to Australia where the women love an honest man who will work and get his hands dirty.
Where you will be respected for what you do not who you are. tongue2

Sorry about the lecture, but you need itflowerforyou


And you still fight for the Queen.
Don't you?

I mean you and Canada?

Ah, the Queen.
Now there's a woman who doesn't like someone supporting and taking care of her.laugh laugh laugh

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Tue 12/28/10 04:38 PM
Edited by alookat101 on Tue 12/28/10 04:40 PM
I Really don't mean to bust anyones bubble male or female but the hunt for the suitable companion is just a forrest of the bewilder. I find nothing wrong in one having more material wealth then the other as long as there is a true understanding of each other. You may say to yourself how do one reach true understanding of another. Frist and forthwith such a individual should stop centeralizing material wealth as a means to be happy, fortunate yes and happy I'm not sure that is always the case.

rara777's photo
Tue 12/28/10 04:48 PM
In some peoples eyes, I`m not a "successful" man.

But in my immediate family eyes and my friends eyes I am a "successful" man.

I raised my family. That therefore makes me a "successful" man in my book.

I don`t have to answer to people about their version of degrees of success.


josie68's photo
Tue 12/28/10 10:34 PM

In some peoples eyes, I`m not a "successful" man.

But in my immediate family eyes and my friends eyes I am a "successful" man.

I raised my family. That therefore makes me a "successful" man in my book.

I don`t have to answer to people about their version of degrees of success.




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rara any man who sticks by his family is a success and myhero.


AndyBgood Guns are great, we grew up with them and shot from the time we could walk. They where taken from a lot of random peole after a bad shooting in Australia. However we can still have them, we just have to have a licence, and as long as we do not have any criminal convictions it is not that difficult to get a licence, both my brother and father still have their guns, the amunition and bolts just have to be kept seperate from the actual gun.
But in reality the bad people will always have them, a licence only stop s honest peole from keeping them.
Obviously guns are not allowed to be carried freely, nor are knoves without it is a pocket knife. but Australia is a pretty safe place to live. We dont have a lot of violence and a shooting or stabbing death is big news.

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Tue 12/28/10 11:22 PM
:heart: :heart: :heart: Thank you for the compliment Josie.:heart: :heart: :heart: