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Topic: Early Victories For Republicans!
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Wed 11/03/10 11:51 AM


No, I don't. Why should someone have to pay a higher percentage, for succeeding in business or industry? Sure, we should help out poverty level people, so that their lives are better. But EVERYONE above poverty would have to help out or it's just robbing the rich of the money they earned to give some of it to the poor, while the guys in the middle take a bit to line their pockets.

If you are talking about how the rich can arrange their salaries, so that it appears they aren't making a salary... Well, see that's a problem with an income tax. Rich people can get around them. It's how the system works now and hate to tell you, but it's working as intended.

We could fix that loophole by requiring that all companies only compensate their employees with cash (no stock options, etc) or force the companies to list all perks as taxable compensation.


above poverty;
so the person making twenty three instead of twenty two should pay the same amount as the billionaire.

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Wed 11/03/10 11:53 AM




who is going to spend more money, a billionaire or someone making 20?




your point;


someone that is making making 20 grand a year gets taxed 10%, it is 2000 dollars... someone that is making a billion dollars would get taxed 100 million dollars at the same rate.... that is not fair?

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Wed 11/03/10 11:58 AM





who is going to spend more money, a billionaire or someone making 20?




your point;


someone that is making making 20 grand a year gets taxed 10%, it is 2000 dollars... someone that is making a billion dollars would get taxed 100 million dollars at the same rate.... that is not fair?
Does this make the person making a billon pooer then the person making 20 grand { is that how your looking at it}

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Wed 11/03/10 11:58 AM
so living off about a grand a month sounds perfectly okay.

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Wed 11/03/10 12:08 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Wed 11/03/10 12:16 PM



No, I don't. Why should someone have to pay a higher percentage, for succeeding in business or industry? Sure, we should help out poverty level people, so that their lives are better. But EVERYONE above poverty would have to help out or it's just robbing the rich of the money they earned to give some of it to the poor, while the guys in the middle take a bit to line their pockets.

If you are talking about how the rich can arrange their salaries, so that it appears they aren't making a salary... Well, see that's a problem with an income tax. Rich people can get around them. It's how the system works now and hate to tell you, but it's working as intended.

We could fix that loophole by requiring that all companies only compensate their employees with cash (no stock options, etc) or force the companies to list all perks as taxable compensation.


above poverty;
so the person making twenty three instead of twenty two should pay the same amount as the billionaire.


You keep saying "same amount", I'm saying "same rate". If a billionaire were taxed fairly, the person making 23k couldn't pay the billionaires taxed amount. If both paid the same rate, say 10%, it would be perfectly fair.

Now explain your ethical or moral right to apply a different tax rate from one person to the next.

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Wed 11/03/10 12:09 PM






who is going to spend more money, a billionaire or someone making 20?




your point;


someone that is making making 20 grand a year gets taxed 10%, it is 2000 dollars... someone that is making a billion dollars would get taxed 100 million dollars at the same rate.... that is not fair?
Does this make the person making a billon pooer then the person making 20 grand { is that how your looking at it}


i'm saying that they are paying equal amounts per what they make....
and both would gripe about it...government has to tax people, but nobody wants to pay the taxes...10% across the board sounds fair to me, even for businesses...

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Wed 11/03/10 12:18 PM
when i say same amount,
i'm also referring to the percentage.
my point is that the people who make more can actually afford to pay more.
and they can still have a nice life.

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Wed 11/03/10 12:19 PM
whoa

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Wed 11/03/10 12:21 PM

when i say same amount,
i'm also referring to the percentage.
my point is that the people who make more can actually afford to pay more.
and they can still have a nice life.


It would be nice if you could provide data to back up your claims, please.

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Wed 11/03/10 12:21 PM


when i say same amount,
i'm also referring to the percentage.
my point is that the people who make more can actually afford to pay more.
and they can still have a nice life.


It would be nice if you could provide data to back up your claims, please.


:thumbsup:

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Wed 11/03/10 12:26 PM

when i say same amount,
i'm also referring to the percentage.
my point is that the people who make more can actually afford to pay more.
and they can still have a nice life.



But what gives you the right to determine how much they can afford? And what do you do when they decide to move to a more tax friendly country?

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Wed 11/03/10 12:27 PM
google 'why flat rate tax is unfair'

and there will be thousands of pages with sources and numbers to back up a different perspective

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Wed 11/03/10 12:30 PM

google 'why flat rate tax is unfair'

and there will be thousands of pages with sources and numbers to back up a different perspective


Actually, when I google that, I find a lot of explanations of why it's more fair than our current system.

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Wed 11/03/10 12:32 PM
offtopic

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Wed 11/03/10 12:40 PM
haha.
you want data.
you can do the google.
for me,
it's just common sense.

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Wed 11/03/10 12:48 PM
So what do you tea party-ers and republicans gonna protest about in the future?


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Wed 11/03/10 01:13 PM




who is going to spend more money, a billionaire or someone making 20?




your point;


My point is obvious. A billionaire is going to spend more money and pay more in taxes. The rate doesn't matter one bit. If I spend $40,000 per year and you spend $10,000 per year I pay more in taxes than you. That is the point.

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Wed 11/03/10 01:16 PM


google 'why flat rate tax is unfair'

and there will be thousands of pages with sources and numbers to back up a different perspective


Actually, when I google that, I find a lot of explanations of why it's more fair than our current system.

It's unfair cuz wHosein said it wuz.laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 11/03/10 01:21 PM

So what do you tea party-ers and republicans gonna protest about in the future?




Taxes. It will always be taxes. As long as there are politicians, they will try to raise our taxes, the country needs people demanding lower taxes or we'll be taxed and spent into poverty.

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Wed 11/03/10 01:23 PM
Edited by bhernandez on Wed 11/03/10 01:23 PM

My point is obvious. A billionaire is going to spend more money and pay more in taxes. The rate doesn't matter one bit. If I spend $40,000 per year and you spend $10,000 per year I pay more in taxes than you. That is the point.



ughhh.
but the rate does matter.
>.<
idk how many times i've used this example to tryyy to get the point across,
but here it goes one more time.
lets tax a billionaire and someone who makes twenty a year both 90%.
who do you think is going to continue living an easy life.

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