Topic: Early Victories For Republicans!
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Tue 11/09/10 10:47 AM
Edited by Dragoness on Tue 11/09/10 10:49 AM




Yea, sadly, he was too into trying to please everyone.

It used to piss me the hell off regularly.grumble


laugh

No, seriously, you don't really believe that, right?

Could you give an example or two? Was it when he said "I won, I'll trump that?" or when he said "Those are just Republican talking points, we are here for real solutions" or maybe when he told republicans to get to the back of the bus? laugh


Sounds like some people should stay off the right wing garbage sights.

It isn't true.


Okay, give me some examples.


Examples of right wing garbage info?

What you posted is the perfect example of that

Examples of his bipartanship;

Obama's Bipartisan Triumphs

by Matt Miller Info
Matt Miller

Matt Miller is the host of public radio’s popular week-in-review program “Left, Right & Center,” and the author of The Tyranny of Dead Ideas: Revolutionary Thinking For A New Age Of Prosperity.






Barack Obama, John McCain Jim Young / Reuters Contrary to conventional wisdom, says former Clinton budget advisor Matt Miller, Obama has reached across the aisle in his first 100 days. He's advancing GOP health, energy, and education goals-so why aren't the Republicans supporting them?

Just about everyone agrees that one of the sad casualties of President Obama’s first 100 days is the bipartisanship he championed so appealingly on the campaign trail. But everyone is wrong—at least when it comes to the ideas Obama is advancing.

Yes, it’s true that Republicans haven’t been supporting his initiatives, but that’s hardly Obama’s fault. Any fair-minded assessment of the president’s policy priorities reveals them to be to be an innovative blend of liberal and conservative thinking. As a result, Obama’s early tenure has posed nothing so much as an instructive political riddle, which runs as follows. When can you have a bipartisan agenda without Republican votes? Answer: when Republicans find that endorsing their own ideas gets in the way of pursuing their thirst for power.

When can you have a bipartisan agenda without Republican votes? Answer: when Republicans find that endorsing their own ideas gets in the way of pursuing their thirst for power.

Don’t believe me? Look at what Obama is actually trying to do in his three big reform arenas: health care, energy, and education.

Health care. The centerpiece of Obama’s approach to overhauling health care, now being fleshed out by Congress, is to create a new insurance exchange or marketplace so that people who don’t receive employer-sponsored plans have access to group coverage outside the job setting. In the exchange, folks would choose among competing health plans, with lower earners enjoying subsidies that taper off as income rises.

This model was championed and enacted by Mitt Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts several years ago, with Ted Kennedy helping to persuade the state’s Democrats to join in. And it builds on an approach to universal coverage that Stuart Butler of the conservative Heritage Foundation has been touting since the early 1990s.

Why has Obama ended up here? Because in the wake of the Clintoncare fiasco, Democrats, realizing they had blown it, spent the next decade rethinking their government-heavy approach to reform. While there are details to iron out that would give any final bill a more Democratic or Republican hue, to view Obama’s plan as somehow “lefty” is to ignore its conservative pedigree as well as a dozen years of dedicated efforts by reformers in both parties to find common ground.

(To be fair to Republicans, the potential inclusion in the exchange of a so-called public plan option in addition to private insurance plans has raised fears that Obama is secretly plotting a slide toward a Canadian-style single-payer scheme. But the likeliest scenario is that the public plan becomes a bargaining chip, negotiated away or defanged in exchange for health insurers agreeing to meet certain goals on costs, access, and quality.)

Energy. Complicated details aside, Obama’s overarching approach to energy is simple: He wants America finally to put a proper, higher price on dirty energy that reflects its true environmental costs, and thus create market incentives that allow clean alternative energies to flourish. Obama’s related plan is to cushion the impact of higher dirty energy prices on middle- and lower-income Americans by rebating to them 80 percent of the revenue collected by his cap and trade plan. It’s basically a tax swap, with the other 20 percent of the revenue used by Uncle Sam to jumpstart investment in new energy sources.

more at http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-04-28/obamas-bipartisan-triumphs/

Poll: Obama Trying Harder Than The GOP To Be Bipartisan
Evan McMorris-Santoro | February 9, 2010, 5:47PM



Republican leaders warned today that they might skip the White House's bipartisan health care meeting Feb. 25 because they think President Obama isn't trying hard enough to be bipartisan on the controversial issue. But a new ABC News poll out today shows that Americans think it's Republicans who need to try harder to reach across the aisle. Overwhelmingly, they support efforts to find a compromise in health care, rather than scrap reform efforts entirely.

Just 30% of respondents to the poll said that Republican efforts at bipartisanship are "about right." Fifty-eight percent said the GOP is doing "too little" to work with the their Democratic colleagues. Respondents were more approving of Obama's attempts to be bipartisan -- 45% said his efforts were "about right," and 44% said they were "too little."

Among independents, whom the GOP have claimed as their own in the past several months, the support for Obama's efforts at being bipartisan over the Republican attempts holds. Fifty-six percent said the GOP is doing "too little" to be bipartisan, and 50% said the same about Obama.

The poll shows that a big majority want the parties to work out a bipartisan deal on health care reform, as Obama has advocated. Sixty-three percent said lawmakers should work out a deal and get a reform bill passed, while just 34% said it was time to drop the topic all together.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/poll-obama-trying-harder-than-the-gop-to-be-bipartisan.php

Obama Creates Bipartisan Debt Commission to 'Take on the Impossible'

February 18, 2010 11:21 AM
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From Sunlen Miller

Aiming to address "long-term quandary of a government that routinely and extravagantly spends more than it takes in," President Obama today signed an Executive Order creating the bipartisan National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.

“Without action, the accumulated weight of that structural deficit of ever-increasing debt will hobble our economy, it will cloud our future, and it will saddle every child in America with an intolerable burden,” Mr. Obama warned from the Diplomatic Reception Room, “Since the budget surpluses at the end of the 1990s, federal debt has exploded. The trajectory is clear and it is disturbing.”

Noting that the politics of dealing with “chronic deficits” is fraught with hard choices “treacherous to office holders here in Washington,” the president admitted that no one has been too eager to deal with the problem inside the Washington beltway.

“I know the issue of deficits has stirred debate, and there are some on the left who believe that this issue can be deferred. There are some on the right who won't enter into serious discussions about deficits without preconditions. But those who preach fiscal discipline have to be willing to take the hard steps necessary to achieve it.”

The president announced the co-chairs of the commission -- former President Bill Clinton’s former White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles and former Sen. Alan Simpson, R-Wyoming, the former Senate Republican Whip -- who stood beside him and Vice President Biden for the announcement.

“One's a good Republican, the other a good Democrat,” Obama noted, “The commission they'll lead was structured in such a way as to rise above partisanship.”

In addition to Bowles and Simpson there will be 18 members of the commission. Four others will be appointed by the president. Six will

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/02/obama-creates-bipartisan-debt-commission-to-take-on-the-impossible-.html

There are plenty more but I think this proves the point.

Republicans wanted it all their way. That isn't being bipartisan.

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Tue 11/09/10 10:56 AM





Yea, sadly, he was too into trying to please everyone.

It used to piss me the hell off regularly.grumble


laugh

No, seriously, you don't really believe that, right?

Could you give an example or two? Was it when he said "I won, I'll trump that?" or when he said "Those are just Republican talking points, we are here for real solutions" or maybe when he told republicans to get to the back of the bus? laugh


Sounds like some people should stay off the right wing garbage sights.

It isn't true.


Okay, give me some examples.


Examples of right wing garbage info?

What you posted is the perfect example of that

Examples of his bipartanship;

Obama's Bipartisan Triumphs

by Matt Miller Info
Matt Miller

Matt Miller is the host of public radio’s popular week-in-review program “Left, Right & Center,” and the author of The Tyranny of Dead Ideas: Revolutionary Thinking For A New Age Of Prosperity.






Barack Obama, John McCain Jim Young / Reuters Contrary to conventional wisdom, says former Clinton budget advisor Matt Miller, Obama has reached across the aisle in his first 100 days. He's advancing GOP health, energy, and education goals-so why aren't the Republicans supporting them?

Just about everyone agrees that one of the sad casualties of President Obama’s first 100 days is the bipartisanship he championed so appealingly on the campaign trail. But everyone is wrong—at least when it comes to the ideas Obama is advancing.

Yes, it’s true that Republicans haven’t been supporting his initiatives, but that’s hardly Obama’s fault. Any fair-minded assessment of the president’s policy priorities reveals them to be to be an innovative blend of liberal and conservative thinking. As a result, Obama’s early tenure has posed nothing so much as an instructive political riddle, which runs as follows. When can you have a bipartisan agenda without Republican votes? Answer: when Republicans find that endorsing their own ideas gets in the way of pursuing their thirst for power.

When can you have a bipartisan agenda without Republican votes? Answer: when Republicans find that endorsing their own ideas gets in the way of pursuing their thirst for power.

Don’t believe me? Look at what Obama is actually trying to do in his three big reform arenas: health care, energy, and education.

Health care. The centerpiece of Obama’s approach to overhauling health care, now being fleshed out by Congress, is to create a new insurance exchange or marketplace so that people who don’t receive employer-sponsored plans have access to group coverage outside the job setting. In the exchange, folks would choose among competing health plans, with lower earners enjoying subsidies that taper off as income rises.

This model was championed and enacted by Mitt Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts several years ago, with Ted Kennedy helping to persuade the state’s Democrats to join in. And it builds on an approach to universal coverage that Stuart Butler of the conservative Heritage Foundation has been touting since the early 1990s.

Why has Obama ended up here? Because in the wake of the Clintoncare fiasco, Democrats, realizing they had blown it, spent the next decade rethinking their government-heavy approach to reform. While there are details to iron out that would give any final bill a more Democratic or Republican hue, to view Obama’s plan as somehow “lefty” is to ignore its conservative pedigree as well as a dozen years of dedicated efforts by reformers in both parties to find common ground.

(To be fair to Republicans, the potential inclusion in the exchange of a so-called public plan option in addition to private insurance plans has raised fears that Obama is secretly plotting a slide toward a Canadian-style single-payer scheme. But the likeliest scenario is that the public plan becomes a bargaining chip, negotiated away or defanged in exchange for health insurers agreeing to meet certain goals on costs, access, and quality.)

Energy. Complicated details aside, Obama’s overarching approach to energy is simple: He wants America finally to put a proper, higher price on dirty energy that reflects its true environmental costs, and thus create market incentives that allow clean alternative energies to flourish. Obama’s related plan is to cushion the impact of higher dirty energy prices on middle- and lower-income Americans by rebating to them 80 percent of the revenue collected by his cap and trade plan. It’s basically a tax swap, with the other 20 percent of the revenue used by Uncle Sam to jumpstart investment in new energy sources.

more at http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-04-28/obamas-bipartisan-triumphs/

Poll: Obama Trying Harder Than The GOP To Be Bipartisan
Evan McMorris-Santoro | February 9, 2010, 5:47PM



Republican leaders warned today that they might skip the White House's bipartisan health care meeting Feb. 25 because they think President Obama isn't trying hard enough to be bipartisan on the controversial issue. But a new ABC News poll out today shows that Americans think it's Republicans who need to try harder to reach across the aisle. Overwhelmingly, they support efforts to find a compromise in health care, rather than scrap reform efforts entirely.

Just 30% of respondents to the poll said that Republican efforts at bipartisanship are "about right." Fifty-eight percent said the GOP is doing "too little" to work with the their Democratic colleagues. Respondents were more approving of Obama's attempts to be bipartisan -- 45% said his efforts were "about right," and 44% said they were "too little."

Among independents, whom the GOP have claimed as their own in the past several months, the support for Obama's efforts at being bipartisan over the Republican attempts holds. Fifty-six percent said the GOP is doing "too little" to be bipartisan, and 50% said the same about Obama.

The poll shows that a big majority want the parties to work out a bipartisan deal on health care reform, as Obama has advocated. Sixty-three percent said lawmakers should work out a deal and get a reform bill passed, while just 34% said it was time to drop the topic all together.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/poll-obama-trying-harder-than-the-gop-to-be-bipartisan.php

Obama Creates Bipartisan Debt Commission to 'Take on the Impossible'

February 18, 2010 11:21 AM
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From Sunlen Miller

Aiming to address "long-term quandary of a government that routinely and extravagantly spends more than it takes in," President Obama today signed an Executive Order creating the bipartisan National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.

“Without action, the accumulated weight of that structural deficit of ever-increasing debt will hobble our economy, it will cloud our future, and it will saddle every child in America with an intolerable burden,” Mr. Obama warned from the Diplomatic Reception Room, “Since the budget surpluses at the end of the 1990s, federal debt has exploded. The trajectory is clear and it is disturbing.”

Noting that the politics of dealing with “chronic deficits” is fraught with hard choices “treacherous to office holders here in Washington,” the president admitted that no one has been too eager to deal with the problem inside the Washington beltway.

“I know the issue of deficits has stirred debate, and there are some on the left who believe that this issue can be deferred. There are some on the right who won't enter into serious discussions about deficits without preconditions. But those who preach fiscal discipline have to be willing to take the hard steps necessary to achieve it.”

The president announced the co-chairs of the commission -- former President Bill Clinton’s former White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles and former Sen. Alan Simpson, R-Wyoming, the former Senate Republican Whip -- who stood beside him and Vice President Biden for the announcement.

“One's a good Republican, the other a good Democrat,” Obama noted, “The commission they'll lead was structured in such a way as to rise above partisanship.”

In addition to Bowles and Simpson there will be 18 members of the commission. Four others will be appointed by the president. Six will

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/02/obama-creates-bipartisan-debt-commission-to-take-on-the-impossible-.html

There are plenty more but I think this proves the point.

Republicans wanted it all their way. That isn't being bipartisan.


Really? Energy taxes are a Republican idea?

The Public Option was a vote killer. It wasn't even popular among the Democrats.

It was a nice try, but not even close.

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Tue 11/09/10 10:58 AM
You wish it wasn't close.

Obama is too bipartisan and that is one of his failings as far as I am concerned.

no photo
Tue 11/09/10 11:00 AM

You wish it wasn't close.

Obama is too bipartisan and that is one of his failings as far as I am concerned.


He's too bipartisan, because he suggested two terrible leftist ideas and Republicans rejected them. laugh

You are killing me here. Thanks for the laughs.

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Tue 11/09/10 11:03 AM
The two things you mentioned are not all and I love to see people smile.

Obama is too bipartisan and that is why he fails to get all done that he needs too.

Republicans don't care about Americans.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 11/09/10 11:05 AM

The two things you mentioned are not all and I love to see people smile.

Obama is too bipartisan and that is why he fails to get all done that he needs too.

Republicans don't care about Americans.


still can't see those trees, huh...

Dragoness's photo
Tue 11/09/10 11:06 AM


The two things you mentioned are not all and I love to see people smile.

Obama is too bipartisan and that is why he fails to get all done that he needs too.

Republicans don't care about Americans.


still can't see those trees, huh...


You mean the trees (lies) the Repubs or right wing made you see that don't exist?

Dragoness's photo
Tue 11/09/10 11:07 AM



The two things you mentioned are not all and I love to see people smile.

Obama is too bipartisan and that is why he fails to get all done that he needs too.

Republicans don't care about Americans.


still can't see those trees, huh...


You mean the trees (lies) the Repubs or right wing made you see that don't exist?


Yeaslaphead

Lpdon's photo
Tue 11/09/10 11:31 AM

The two things you mentioned are not all and I love to see people smile.

Obama is too bipartisan and that is why he fails to get all done that he needs too.

Republicans don't care about Americans.


I am a Republican and I care about Americans, that's why i volunteer a lot in my community.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 11/09/10 11:32 AM

You wish it wasn't close.

Obama is too bipartisan and that is one of his failings as far as I am concerned.


His idea on being bipartisan is during his health care discussion he invited like 4 Republicans and 15 Democrats. Yup, thats bipartisan.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 11/09/10 11:34 AM




The two things you mentioned are not all and I love to see people smile.

Obama is too bipartisan and that is why he fails to get all done that he needs too.

Republicans don't care about Americans.


still can't see those trees, huh...


You mean the trees (lies) the Repubs or right wing made you see that don't exist?


Yeaslaphead


Do you have a shrine in your room dedicated to Obama?

Lpdon's photo
Tue 11/09/10 09:19 PM
Have they called Alaska yet?

Lpdon's photo
Tue 11/09/10 09:20 PM
Or Arizona?

Lpdon's photo
Thu 11/11/10 10:17 AM
Guess not.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 11/13/10 04:08 PM
Damn, it looks like Giffords beat Kelley. That's a damn shame. He wa sa damn good candidate.

eklectek's photo
Sat 11/13/10 07:11 PM
:banana:

Lpdon's photo
Sat 11/13/10 08:08 PM
?????????????

Lpdon's photo
Sun 11/14/10 01:15 PM
How many more Senate and Congressional races are still open?

Lpdon's photo
Thu 11/18/10 04:43 PM
Bump

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Thu 11/18/10 05:59 PM
just be glad when our government works together instead of all the 'sides' trying to be RIGHT or MORE RIGHT than the other,,,

its gonna be rough now because when you have deficit, you can only do three things

1 nothing
2 increase income(raise taxes)
3 cut expenses (cut social services)

we cant have it both ways much longer and most people are gonna be unhappy about their sacrifice one way or the other,,,but it has to be done