with the gay thing... some gays believe in god and jesus but yet christains have this belief rather it be a chester or rapist..etc that as long as they accept jesus as their lord and savior they are going to heaven,so the old testament god says you shall not worship any god before me or whatever ways you want to type it's meaningless meaning...even my homeboy isaac newton questioned this one,so if a gay man says i accept jesus as my lord and savior does that mean he is going to heaven...even though he meaning god never produced women for adam and eves kids to keep the population going or rather its an abomination

Good Point!

read soddom and gomorrah...

god doesn't like gays.

after he killed them all(when he burned the cities) do you think he brought them into heaven?

No they were left here to F with us!

Its funny.. I have never had any FLAK here except from the Gays

lol return to sender...

well technically moses and noah went to hell cause jesus wasn't around yet and then jesus went there to grab the two to take back to heaven...**** man it's taken everything i got to keep from laughing,seriously people believe this

yea, wait till the bible thumpers get here.

see joel osteen now he knows how to make money...now he can feed people his beliefs peacefully hitler did it with violence

yea, my mom watches him every sunday. he has a huge church downtown. he paid like 10 million dollars for the old stadium where the rockets won their championships a few years ago. it's right across the street from where the astros play.

Bring em on

IF this...GOD is all that Christians believe and SAY 'he'
is...then, this being is not capable of hating, disliking, loathing,
or judging any one or any thing. Hate and judgment are man made.

They don't come from a place of love... if GOD is LOVE and LOVE is GOD (and I do believe this is the case) then it is impossible for GOD to 'dislike' his own creations.

IF this GOD loves us in the manner that we love our children then it can not be...now it's true some parents hate, abuse, **** up their kids and some even kill, we know this isn't 'natural' or the 'norm'. To say that GOD does dislike gays, GOD does judge is to say 'he' is not GOD..'he' is just like us.

So is 'he' a loving GOD? Or is 'he' like us an makes judgments on others...

The answer to the question is irrelevant 'cuz there's no 'heaven' and no 'hell' - those are man-made constructs designed to achieve behavioral control of the masses by promising them a 'reward' in an 'afterlife' for having lived a 'good and proper' life here ... in short, it's no different from a life insurance policy where y' have to lose in order to 'win' ...

the band kiss says it best....loud i wanna hear it loud

And are lining their pockets...The Christian childrens fund

from a bi female

I believe in christ as my lord and savior, but that is more than just a script or a quote to recite which saves you

by believing in him, I have to believe in what he taught and I have to be always trying to live by the example he set and the words he preached as well as the laws instructed by his Father and Mine


I love analogies so here is the closest I can come,,,

If I understand and have knowledge of the police and their authority, that doesnt keep me out of jail, its only RESPECTING that authority that does that


I think its similar with not only accepting Jesus and the authority of his word and the biblical word but respecting and adhering to it


but I think its kind of like the constitution to many people, if it is an issue that isnt explicitly and simply explained in the bible, people will use that absence or confusion to defend their actions or to condemn others actions. Its cliche, but I really think the heart and soul have to be open to receive truth and know the difference as well as read the lessons that are in between the lines if you will.

the bible is full of judgmental quotes. noah, i think god did some judging then... soddom and gamorrah, again, the gavel was slammed.
job, pretty much the whole old testament, god wasn't happy.

Again, the point is moot ... this 'god' is every bit the man-made construct that 'heaven' and 'hell' are ...

Why does God make everything bad....Feel so good?

so can a gay man or woman who accepts jesus as his/her savior be saved? as in they will go to heaven when they die