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Topic: UFO'S
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Sun 05/16/10 12:35 PM



Show. Me. The. Spacecraft. ... I'm easy ...


shades ... NSA, uh???

Then seems that you would be reminding us that the best "proof" is sealed and mired in Govt. Intelligence ...

This, said as a person raised in the mind numb of high level military ntelligence!

Not a day goes by that I don't remember my father's hypnotized plug~in answer when asked how his day, war, mission, etc. went ...

"That is highly confidential information that I'm not privileged to divulge at this time and place" ...

Yeah, to his own family that could care less, just attempting convo w/ a robot ...

So, Mr. Security, "Al" ... YOU show us ... Oh, do ... spock


Oh my. What a jump ... from an avatar to a profession ... "Gullible's Travels' revisited ...

For anyone desirous of unauthorized releases of classified information, all they need do is subscribe to the New York Times - they'll print anything whether it's true, classified, private, or not ... Since I'm not one of the 'mind-numbed robot' believer types making claims FOR 'visitation', etc, there's no need for me to provide proof - I don't believe it's happening or that they're 'out there' ... The ones saying there's POSITIVE proof are responsible for providing said proof to back up those specious claims ... Remember: Incredible claims require incredible proof ... So far, I see nothing that qualifies as proof to back up the rather mundane claims of 'alien' life, 'visitations', 'technology' etc etc ... but if somebody happens to have one of their spacecraft parked somewhere ...



They do have a space ship parked somewhere but of course its classified.

How do you think that happens? Well I will tell you a story about mutilated cattle.

Every cow that was mutilated and reported in the area of Pueblo and Colorado Springs or just about any area, was confiscated and taken away "for investigation" BY THE MILITARY and never seen again. Why?

Why, if these aren't "aliens" doing this do all reported mutilated livestock end up being classified?

Also, why were the newspapers told not to report any of these incidents? (Some did make the papers but most were kept out.) Why?

This is news. Why were the newspapers THREATENED to not report this stuff?

You don't HAVE TO BELIEVE. But I would suggest that even non believers be aware of what IS REALLY GOING ON.

Something is really "rotten in Denmark."

IF you found and managed to 'capture' a flying saucer or space ship, if you call the authorities, it will also disappear mysteriously and become 'classified.'

So, if anyone does have a spaceship, they would have to keep it hidden in their barn.

That's what I would do if I came into possession of one. Then I would take it out for a ride on Sundays.




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Sun 05/16/10 12:57 PM

" ... How do you think that happens? Well I will tell you a story about mutilated cattle. ... "


Ummm ... where's the story about the cattle ... ? Was it a really really SHORT story ... ?

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Sun 05/16/10 01:06 PM


" ... How do you think that happens? Well I will tell you a story about mutilated cattle. ... "


Ummm ... where's the story about the cattle ... ? Was it a really really SHORT story ... ?


... whoa

You must REALLY dig bein' contrary and impossible, huh ...

slaphead ... Ya just edited out the answer to your question, she already provided !

John Lennon: Whatever gets you through your life ... laugh

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Sun 05/16/10 01:07 PM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Sun 05/16/10 01:09 PM
That was a statement and a question, not a story ...


" ... Every cow that was mutilated and reported in the area of Pueblo and Colorado Springs or just about any area, was confiscated and taken away "for investigation" BY THE MILITARY and never seen again. Why?

Why, if these aren't "aliens" doing this do all reported mutilated livestock end up being classified? ... "



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Sun 05/16/10 01:09 PM
Turn up the Tunes ... :banana:

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Sun 05/16/10 01:41 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 05/16/10 01:47 PM

That was a statement and a question, not a story ...


" ... Every cow that was mutilated and reported in the area of Pueblo and Colorado Springs or just about any area, was confiscated and taken away "for investigation" BY THE MILITARY and never seen again. Why?

Why, if these aren't "aliens" doing this do all reported mutilated livestock end up being classified? ... "






Yes it was pretty short. I thought everyone had heard about the mutilated cows. They are still happening, but you don't hear about them in the media.

I lived in Colorado Springs, and I grew up in Pueblo. Lots of my friends and acquaintances were ranchers.

The biggest story made world-wide headlines. It was the story of "Snippy" a mutilated horse and the very strange things associated with it. I just did a search on snippy to see what was on the Internet: (I haven't read this myself yet.) It happened in 1967, the year I graduated from High School.

http://www.snippy.com/

Following that, they were mostly cattle. I guess the aliens found out that humans had too much of a love for horses, although they did get a buffalo that was in a cage at the Colorado Springs Rocky Mountain Zoo.

Ranchers lost a lot of cattle. They would even ride around at night with rifles trying to catch the culprits. They never did. But they were approached by a silent black helicopter and warned to go home and leave the area or else. ("The area" was their own property.) At that time, the silent black helicopter was classified. The military claimed it did not exist. Yet there is was. When questioned about it, they claimed they knew nothing about it.

It was the job of the military to clean up and cover up these incidents. The cows were used as food for the grey aliens from what I have heard from abductees who saw great big vats with floating cattle innards in it. The grey aliens are hive clones who absorb food through their skin. They would sit in the vats. (Now you know what the cows were used for.) Seems as thought the aliens only took the brain and some other inner organs from the cattle, then they would leave the rest of the cow in the field. The skeleton of the cow's head would usually be bleached minus a brain.

I saw one of these cows that was not reported to the authorities. The rancher left it there for all to see. He had reported others and they had been taken away by the military and he never heard from them again, and everyone thought he was 'nuts.'

Is that enough of a story?



http://www.snippy.com/

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Sun 05/16/10 01:53 PM
HERE IS A BLOG ABOUT RECENT MUTILATIONS IN COLORADO


Well here we go again . . .

As seems to be common in the San Luis Valley here in Colorado since the 1960′s (and perhaps earlier) more bodies of domesticated animals have been found mutilated on a ranch near the New Mexico line. These bizarre mutilations stretch back, in documented form, to Snippy the Horse back in 1967. Like other incidents of this kind the cuts are precise and the skin is found peeled back and organs removed.

Now there are, of course, many theories about what exactly causes these mutilations. Things such as alien spacecraft, governmental black helicopters, and even the infamous chupacabra, have been blamed. I personally do not think that the government theory holds a lot of water. If it was a government experiment why leave any body at all? Why not just buy calves on the open market (or steal them) take them to a government facility and conduct your experiments/mutilations there? I am not saying that these things are the result of alien activity, I have no clue what does this. But I am always surprised at our ability to simply ignore these kind of things and pass them off as “weird” and not warranting any more investigation. Shouldn’t someone with a little more technical expertise look into these kind of things, compile the data centrally and treat it with some seriousness?

For more information about this incident I recommend looking at http://www.ufonut.com. It is an excellent blog by the current amateur researcher Chuck Zukowski, who lives here in the Springs. He also has a YouTube video of one of the scenes and the calves here.






http://coloradocelt.wordpress.com/2009/11/

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Sun 05/16/10 02:16 PM

HERE IS A BLOG ABOUT RECENT MUTILATIONS IN COLORADO


Well here we go again . . .

As seems to be common in the San Luis Valley here in Colorado since the 1960′s (and perhaps earlier) more bodies of domesticated animals have been found mutilated on a ranch near the New Mexico line. These bizarre mutilations stretch back, in documented form, to Snippy the Horse back in 1967. Like other incidents of this kind the cuts are precise and the skin is found peeled back and organs removed.

Now there are, of course, many theories about what exactly causes these mutilations. Things such as alien spacecraft, governmental black helicopters, and even the infamous chupacabra, have been blamed. I personally do not think that the government theory holds a lot of water. If it was a government experiment why leave any body at all? Why not just buy calves on the open market (or steal them) take them to a government facility and conduct your experiments/mutilations there? I am not saying that these things are the result of alien activity, I have no clue what does this. But I am always surprised at our ability to simply ignore these kind of things and pass them off as “weird” and not warranting any more investigation. Shouldn’t someone with a little more technical expertise look into these kind of things, compile the data centrally and treat it with some seriousness?

For more information about this incident I recommend looking at http://www.ufonut.com. It is an excellent blog by the current amateur researcher Chuck Zukowski, who lives here in the Springs. He also has a YouTube video of one of the scenes and the calves here.

http://coloradocelt.wordpress.com/2009/11/


Well, it IS an interesting story - but that's all it is. It's more of a 'mystery' than anything, but that doesn't mean 'aliens' or anything else unexplained or unexplainable is behind it. Odd that you disbelieve the ONE thing that would make the MOST sense: That is IS the government doing it. Considering the location of the mutiliations (near former nuclear test sites), I'd suspect that it IS our own government monitoring the effects of radiation on living beings - and it's too 'iffy' to do stuff like this to humans. The body parts taken are those body parts that have the greatest propensity for radiation uptake. No mystery there. Chupacabra? Please ... the word translates as 'goatsucker' from the Spanish. If it exists, how come no one has caught one? How come no one's captured a 'bigfoot' - that's an even OLDER 'mystery'. The Loch Ness 'monster' has already been debunked by its creator as a fake. 'Aliens' ... ? No proof that they exist; even less that they're here. And we haven't even begun to scratch the surface of the 'crop circle mysteries' ... Great googly-woogly! CoastToCoastAM is for entertainment only ...

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Sun 05/16/10 02:26 PM

Tuesday and 8:00 ON THE HISTORY CHANNEL. "Ancient aliens" Evidence that there were nuclear weapons way back when. Should be interesting to watch.


you are right, if on TV that means it true

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Sun 05/16/10 02:37 PM


HERE IS A BLOG ABOUT RECENT MUTILATIONS IN COLORADO


Well here we go again . . .

As seems to be common in the San Luis Valley here in Colorado since the 1960′s (and perhaps earlier) more bodies of domesticated animals have been found mutilated on a ranch near the New Mexico line. These bizarre mutilations stretch back, in documented form, to Snippy the Horse back in 1967. Like other incidents of this kind the cuts are precise and the skin is found peeled back and organs removed.

Now there are, of course, many theories about what exactly causes these mutilations. Things such as alien spacecraft, governmental black helicopters, and even the infamous chupacabra, have been blamed. I personally do not think that the government theory holds a lot of water. If it was a government experiment why leave any body at all? Why not just buy calves on the open market (or steal them) take them to a government facility and conduct your experiments/mutilations there? I am not saying that these things are the result of alien activity, I have no clue what does this. But I am always surprised at our ability to simply ignore these kind of things and pass them off as “weird” and not warranting any more investigation. Shouldn’t someone with a little more technical expertise look into these kind of things, compile the data centrally and treat it with some seriousness?

For more information about this incident I recommend looking at http://www.ufonut.com. It is an excellent blog by the current amateur researcher Chuck Zukowski, who lives here in the Springs. He also has a YouTube video of one of the scenes and the calves here.

http://coloradocelt.wordpress.com/2009/11/


Well, it IS an interesting story - but that's all it is. It's more of a 'mystery' than anything, but that doesn't mean 'aliens' or anything else unexplained or unexplainable is behind it. Odd that you disbelieve the ONE thing that would make the MOST sense: That is IS the government doing it. Considering the location of the mutiliations (near former nuclear test sites), I'd suspect that it IS our own government monitoring the effects of radiation on living beings - and it's too 'iffy' to do stuff like this to humans. The body parts taken are those body parts that have the greatest propensity for radiation uptake. No mystery there. Chupacabra? Please ... the word translates as 'goatsucker' from the Spanish. If it exists, how come no one has caught one? How come no one's captured a 'bigfoot' - that's an even OLDER 'mystery'. The Loch Ness 'monster' has already been debunked by its creator as a fake. 'Aliens' ... ? No proof that they exist; even less that they're here. And we haven't even begun to scratch the surface of the 'crop circle mysteries' ... Great googly-woogly! CoastToCoastAM is for entertainment only ...


No mystery there? You sure aren't a very good investigator. You just pick what seems to you to be a more acceptable explanation than "aliens" and get all comfy with that and say "no mystery there."

... and the cows in the field have no clue that their human masters plan to eat them either...

Oh I have considered many different things and the theory that the "government is doing" it just does not hold water. If that is the case, one would have to ask why don't they just buy the cows or steal the cows? And why leave them laying there out in the open? Nope that does not make any logical sense.

(I wish the government was doing it, because they are so incompetent, that eventually they would get caught red handed.)

Besides, if we have that kind of government, its worse than having aliens in my opinion.-- and that means we are paying for it with our tax money.

And I do believe there is a 'shadow government' that does black ops stuff, but they keep a very low profile. And they don't leave their blood and guts all over the place for people to see unless there is some ulterior motive unknown to us.

Nope its not the government DOING IT. But they are helping to cover it up. The rumor there is that they made a deal with the aliens to do that in exchange for some technology, but more importantly, under the threat of total annihilation. Or so the rumor goes. Here, rumors actually make more sense than some lame idea that the government is going around mutilating cows.








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Sun 05/16/10 02:42 PM
Whatever makes you comfortable ...

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Sun 05/16/10 02:43 PM


Tuesday and 8:00 ON THE HISTORY CHANNEL. "Ancient aliens" Evidence that there were nuclear weapons way back when. Should be interesting to watch.


you are right, if on TV that means it true


It's not about right or not right...you impressed me with your comment on "The Shift" in another thread. I would take you to be an open minded person..very few on here have any interest in that movie or many other things I have posted that are similar. I have even seen posts where some are terribly mean about Dr. Dyer and his work..calling those of us who listen "brainwashed"...

This show is just an opportunity to open our minds and learn more. We are only to accept those things that resonate with us..if a thing doesn't resonate..we let it go. If we feel a spark of truth in our hearts or minds, we pursue more information.
I am one who doesn't believe..or shall I say doesn't have everything resonate within me...I am also one who takes a look at EVERYTHING...I know there is so much I can learn.
There is so much information, and now is the time to take in all we can. I don't understand one who isn't even curious about all the things available to us.
So much close minded-ness. I am seriously thinking about leaving this site because of the lack of desire to learn more and the mean spirited-ness of so many. My spirit can't take much more it...
Watch the show, see if any of it resonates with you..if not, disregard...if something sends a spark, learn more.

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Sun 05/16/10 02:53 PM

Anyway, I have retired from chasing or worrying about aliens. I figure if they are here, they have been here since before the beginning of mankind and if they are that good at staying hidden, I certainly will never be able to catch one or prove that they exist. In fact, a avoid them the best I can.

HOW TO AVOID ALIENS:

1. Don't hang around with repeaters. (That is a person who claims to be repeatedly abducted.) If you do, you may become collateral damage. (They are the ones with the tracking chip in their head.) You don't want to be with them when they are picked up again.

2. Don't go to UFO seminars, don't join cults that worship aliens, or hang with people who claim to have had contact with aliens and try to convince you that they are here to 'save' us.

There are other things to be alert for:

If there are no birds chirping and the air is still and completely silent, --be alert.... or hide.

Don't go looking for Big foot. (seriously) Big foot sightings are often in the same area's that UFO sitings appear.

For you non-believers: Just kidding. bigsmile
For you believers: Education can save your life.
For you abductees: Sorry.




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Sun 05/16/10 03:08 PM
No mystery there? You sure aren't a very good investigator. You just pick what seems to you to be a more acceptable explanation than "aliens" and get all comfy with that and say "no mystery there."


Heh. That's what they DO, though.

They take ANY " explanation " no matter how absurd it may be, and state it as fact.

After all....Swamp Gas is a VERY good fallback position.

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Sun 05/16/10 03:13 PM
Edited by JustAGuy2112 on Sun 05/16/10 03:14 PM

No mystery there? You sure aren't a very good investigator. You just pick what seems to you to be a more acceptable explanation than "aliens" and get all comfy with that and say "no mystery there."


Heh. That's what they DO, though.

They take ANY " explanation " no matter how absurd it may be, and state it as fact.

After all....Swamp Gas is a VERY good fallback position.

As far as why a Bigfoot has never been captured...

There are MAYBE 25 or 30 people seriously looking for Bigfoot. That is 25 or 30 people searching the ENTIRE Northwest wilderness.

Seriously...do you really think that few people in that vast an area would actually CATCH anything??

Oh...and before you break out the " Well then why have bones never been found " argument...

There are dozens of different animals that are scavengers.

Walk through the woods a few times and TRY to find an animal skeleton. Everything from a dead animal gets eaten or scattered.


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Sun 05/16/10 03:23 PM



Tuesday and 8:00 ON THE HISTORY CHANNEL. "Ancient aliens" Evidence that there were nuclear weapons way back when. Should be interesting to watch.


you are right, if on TV that means it true


It's not about right or not right...you impressed me with your comment on "The Shift" in another thread. I would take you to be an open minded person..very few on here have any interest in that movie or many other things I have posted that are similar. I have even seen posts where some are terribly mean about Dr. Dyer and his work..calling those of us who listen "brainwashed"...

This show is just an opportunity to open our minds and learn more. We are only to accept those things that resonate with us..if a thing doesn't resonate..we let it go. If we feel a spark of truth in our hearts or minds, we pursue more information.
I am one who doesn't believe..or shall I say doesn't have everything resonate within me...I am also one who takes a look at EVERYTHING...I know there is so much I can learn.
There is so much information, and now is the time to take in all we can. I don't understand one who isn't even curious about all the things available to us.
So much close minded-ness. I am seriously thinking about leaving this site because of the lack of desire to learn more and the mean spirited-ness of so many. My spirit can't take much more it...
Watch the show, see if any of it resonates with you..if not, disregard...if something sends a spark, learn more.



Don't judge all the people on this site because of a few. But I understand what you are saying.

I see a lot of stuff on t.v. that I think is a bunch of bull. But there are things to peak our curiosity. People need to wake up at all the clues we are getting from all directions about what is going on in this reality.

Some just prefer to graze on the grass.

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Sun 05/16/10 03:34 PM


No mystery there? You sure aren't a very good investigator. You just pick what seems to you to be a more acceptable explanation than "aliens" and get all comfy with that and say "no mystery there."


Heh. That's what they DO, though.

They take ANY " explanation " no matter how absurd it may be, and state it as fact.

After all....Swamp Gas is a VERY good fallback position.

As far as why a Bigfoot has never been captured...

There are MAYBE 25 or 30 people seriously looking for Bigfoot. That is 25 or 30 people searching the ENTIRE Northwest wilderness.

Seriously...do you really think that few people in that vast an area would actually CATCH anything??

Oh...and before you break out the " Well then why have bones never been found " argument...

There are dozens of different animals that are scavengers.

Walk through the woods a few times and TRY to find an animal skeleton. Everything from a dead animal gets eaten or scattered.





I don't think Big Foot is from this dimension. That is why he has never been found. There are openings where some creatures (and aliens ships) can come through to this world. (Just like on that sliders series on television.)

There is a book called "Hunt for the Skinwalker" that has some interesting things about that.

But these creatures that come through, what I believe is a 4th dimensional vortex, I think are made of a different density material. If anyone was to shoot one -even with a very large gun,- it would probably not harm the creature much.

In that book mentioned above (a true story) there is a story about a large primitive looking wolf that was seen on this ranch in New Mexico. He was tracked and shot a number of times with a gun large enough to take down an elephant and he barely noticed it. Then his tracks just disappeared. (Personally I would not have followed that creature into the woods with a gun anyway after shooting him did not phase him at all.... Morons!)

Anyway, I think Bigfoot is creature that comes through a time vortex from the 4th dimension, and that he is a creature of the past.




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Sun 05/16/10 03:37 PM
When the dolphins start leaving we know we are in serious trouble.

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Sun 05/16/10 03:48 PM

When the dolphins start leaving we know we are in serious trouble.


Call me silly, but that makes as much sense as (and maybe more than) a lot of the other 'information' spattered all over the walls here ... somebody get on the mike and call for a cleanup on Aisle 7 ...

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Sun 05/16/10 04:10 PM

When the dolphins start leaving we know we are in serious trouble.



rofl rofl rofl rofl good one!


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