Back in 2004, I saw three huge lights hovering in the night sky near Licking Missouri where I taught at the prison. It was 2 in the morning. I never reported it and just went back to bed. They didn't look connected and they didn't seem to be moving. My old man saw them too. We said "Wow" and that was about it. I do believe there is much out there we have no idea about.

I believe there are UFO's...but I don't believe they are alien. Domestic by-product of WWII, is personally what I think.

Back to the subject at hand: UFO's:

Has anyone seen one lately?

The last time I saw strange lights in the sky I was on a deserted road coming from Denver to Springfield. I mean this was an extremely deserted road. There were no street lights, no farm houses... nothing. It was pitch dark. My headlights barely pierced the darkness, showing the road ahead. The road did not have any white lines marking the middle of it either. Just dark blue pavement.

I had my little pickup truck loaded with canvases I had picked up at the Denver port authority. My friend Val was riding with me. Then two bright white "spotlights" blinked on in front of us. They were higher than any telephone pole but low enough that I could see them in front of us. They sort of just hung there in the sky. They may have moved a little but it seemed like they were hovering.

It was a quiet night. I did not hear the roar of any airplane or the sound of helicopter blades, even whisper blades. A few minutes later, the lights went out.

I asked Val if she had seen that. She said "yes." I asked her "What do you suppose that was?" She said she didn't know. (Val is very psychic and she can speak to the dead.)

Anyway, nothing much more was said as we were focused on getting home with our canvases. I just told her to check her watch for the time, just in case we are abducted and have missing time.

She did. We were not abducted. As far as I know.

I've seen plenty of UFO's, the desert is a hotbed for them mountains too. Logically, they are unidentified flying objects. Plenty of people see them every year, yet they are never abducted...then you have this small minority of people that are abducted. It is an attention grabber, or at least it was, however none of the abductions could be verified.

If aliens existed they would have taken us out of the picture by now, surely their own planet is also becoming overpopulated assuming that there is a planet where aliens live. Aliens are entirely too illogical for me to believe in...find me Bigfoot, he owes me money.

Or aliens simply do not exist in the first place.

or perhaps they exist and you are one of them.....

i saw a silver(very shiny) orb while i was drivin my postal route.....thought it was a plane at first...then as i noticed it was round and really started lookin at it ....it shot like a bullet...gone in a blink....
now im constantly lookin at the sky...lol

Shhh...

does anybody think the egyptians actually built the pyramids all by hand?
that they didnt have some sort of help?
on the wall of 1 of the pyramids is a gliph of a light bulb...thats kinda odd dont you think....
what about the hundreds of little gold trinkets the found in the mayan temples shaped just like airplanes of today...built to scale the soar like the space shuttle....thats kinda odd to dont you think? nothing in nature has delta wings and the rudder and tail fins..so how did they come up with that design???

I try to have an open mind, but I do believe in God my father...I think he is coming back soon! As we look around us and look at all of the things going on in the world today...Earthquakes, storms, wars, rumors of war, economics and yes, UFO's! But I think the UFO's are in fact unidentified flying objects, or products of our own military that we don't know about yet...Ever seen a B-1, or B-2 bomber? They don't make a sound when they pass you, as well as our stealth bomber..Moreover, the drone aircraft is the most scary....They can actually hover overhead motionless, then do the impossible....I have seen them at the Yuma Proving Ground, here in Arizona...Scary stuff indeed....They are flown out of New Mexico; even the ones in Afganistan and Iraq.....

Most Ufo's are in my opinion are man made....then there is the propaganda done by governments to scare the masses....Then there is God...When he comes, everyone will see him as he comes from the heavens.....Let no man deceive you....

Peace
Dan

It's not impossible to have had flying machines back then....Perhaps they blew themselves up, like what we fear do to Nuclear War>>>>....I don't think man has learned from his mistakes....

I have seen the same light bulb you are talking about and I have the same questions on how the buildings were built....

I think they destroyed themselves, somehow....

So then are you saying that governments are terrorists trying to scare people with the idea of an alien invasion?

Yes of course UFO means Unidentified flying object. If a person were into studying the subject in detail though, they may have a different opinion... of what some of these might be.

All of the strange stories from very credible witnesses about abductions and sitings have me in doubt about it being the government spreading stories to "scare the masses." These are not coming from the government anyway. The government is the one responsible for covering up the evidence from my experience.

So, no, I don't buy blaming it on the government or all on man made machines.

If it is the government, and if the government does have a lot of top secret technology and flying machines I think it is time they told us about it. I am sick of all this top secret classified crap. The people, who pay their salaries, have a right to know.

Also, when God your father comes back soon, what do you think he will be defined as?

I define "alien" (extraterrestrial) as a non-human intelligent life form. If God turns out to be a humanoid, traveling in a spaceship, guess what?

Alien.

If God does not "come back" in a spaceship, then how do you imagine he will arrive? Do you think he will just materialize from the air? As if through a worm-hole in time?

I am quite serious about these questions.

Even if God is magical there still has to be a method of magic that is used. Is this world just like a dream and anything God 'thinks about' just magically appears or is there some more scientific thing going on in the background?

Will this event obey the laws of physic of this physical world or will the world itself be like a dream where magic becomes real, or will the world be transformed to another dimension or density?

Or will we find that "God" is just an alien being who has more powerful technology than we do and because of this, we worship him as a God? How will we know and define God when he comes back when we cannot seem to know and define God now? How easy would it be for an advance alien race convince us that they are God and God's angels returning to the earth?

Do believers (that God is coming back) have any ideas about this and how this will happen? Where do they get their ideas? (I know of cults that worship an alien being they call Sananda who is said to be "Jesus." He is the captain of a space ship called "Hope."

Also, the idea that God was here on the earth and then left and is coming back, where do you think that idea came from? Yes, it is written in the new testament that Jesus said he would return but maybe he was only talking to a few of his followers, and maybe he already did return to them. He had no idea someone would write a story about it or that people 2000 years in the future would still be waiting for his return.

Also the idea that 'God' is returning has sort of been around and is in a lot of different religions, not just Christianity, so that idea may have come from ancient aliens who were worshiped as gods.

In South America there are legends of visitors from the sky and documented history about human sacrifices to these "gods." If these are the gods that are coming back, I don't think you really want them to come back.

If God is everywhere why did he have to leave?

Have you ever thought about how humans back in time may have viewed alien visitors? Do you think they might have thought of them as Gods?

I think the idea that "God is coming back" leaves believing humans very gullible and wide open to receive and accept as their lord and master, (and returning God) an alien culture with a dynamic leader.

Of course not everyone will believe and there will be a lot of resistance if that happens. Hence the great battle everyone is expecting. On the one side are the believers that God has returned to claim this earth and rule, and on the other side, humans are defending their earth against an alien invasion. A lot of humans will die.

Then the earth will probably be ruled by the alien queen.

jenniebean:

I'm guessing that your not a believer in God....In the book of Genesis
God made man in his own image....Nuf, said....

As far as governments scaring the masses, yes they do~!....Ever heard of 5th Psyops? It was/is a unit that was attached to us in the 1ST Infantry Division, U.S. Army...
It was all about dis-information in times of war/peacetime....Think about it...The propaganda that goes on between the east and the west, especially during the cold war!...Yep, so many flying saucers, back then and no-one knows who's they were?...More than likely, Military aircraft doing Recon/emergency response drills/Psy-ops/Testing of new technologies (some of them never made it out of X-projects).....

We tested several technologies back when I was in, that was too bulky, but it was the refinement and advancement of that technology that is in use today...
Shoot, even the internet was the original fail safe of NORAD back in the 70's, so what are they using today?

If I was in the Pentagon, I sure in the Heck would not be telling the world, or you what our newest technology is today, especially in places like Afghanistan/Iraq......

Can you say, Top Secret, Krypto, For Eyes Only?

Corporations have the right to protect products from espionage~! Now where does our military get their products from?

Private Industry~!....

So, during testing by the military, all of those "X-PROJECTS" have to have the utmost privacy and security, because they belong to individuals that invented some advanced technology that is being marketed by an industry, to the Military/Government...

So, if you think it is "CRAP", what secrets do you have in your closet, that you would not want to get out to the public? Please tell us your darkest, most "Embarrassing Secrets"

I don't think so....

Drone aircraft are all controlled out of New Mexico; Even the ones in Iraq and Afghanistan...They can hover for hours, are small and light weight, as well as the large ones that carry mini-guns, air-to -surface missiles and other weapons....

I find it ironic that the masses would rather believe in little green men, witchcraft, demonology and other phenomenon, than the stories in the bible~!
Then everyone wonders why we are where we are, in these unethical times...

We are a nation founded under God; Now we are a nation divided; A nation divided, by sex, nationality, perversion (homosexuals) and lack of knowledge (mind manipulation of the masses through the media) corrupted by drugs and the drunkenness of materialism....

We as a nation are currently crying out~! You see it daily through TEA PARTIES~! You also see what is occurring in places like Thailand, Greece and other countries where Socialism has failed....

Aliens? Yep, I believe in Aliens, I really do believe~! I have seen thousands of them here in Arizona destroying our countryside and our way of life~!...I can show you where you can witness them for yourself~!
That is why our Governor passed Senate Bill 1070~!

P.S.
Thank God for Freedom of Speech, guaranteed by God and written down by man in our Constitution and Bill Of Rights~! That no man can taketh away what our Creator has given us...who died on the cross for all of our sins....It is the Soldier that gives his life on the battlefield like Jesus who gave his life on the cross...all in the name of Freedom of speech, freedom of expression and freedom of thoughts....I will continue to protect your rights, no matter what you believe~! Even if you believe in "LITTLE GREEN ALIENS/witchcraft and whatever else in your crystal ball....But I will prey for you and that you will be saved, upon his return....
Peace

Oh I think God (Aliens) designed man in their image. I just don't call that advanced race of beings "Gods." I have my own concept of God and it is not the one the Bible puts out. I find the stories in the Bible very unbelievable and illogical.




I am aware and I believe that the government does terrorize the people. They, in fact, are the so-called "terrorists." But I don't think they are abducting people, and if they are the ones doing all of that horrific stuff then we are in deep trouble. That's even worse than the thought of aliens, because WE are paying them to do it with our taxes!!




Maybe, and maybe they also get their technology from aliens.




My life is an open book. I have no deep dark secrets in my closet. But this is not about me.



The speed at which humans came into technology is much too fast for them to have done it alone. They had help in my opinion. And yes, there is a lot of advanced technology available that most humans don't even understand yet.



All things being equal, I take every story as it comes and evaluate it on its own merits. I do not hold the Bible up as the unquestionable gospel or the word of God, so it gets no more points or favor than any other story. I also consider who wrote it and why. (Their perceptions, agendas, motives etc.)



This nation was founded for freedom and freedom of religion. Most of the people doing the founding were wise enough not to insist that this government be ruled by religious zealots, allowing people the right to worship as they chose. I am grateful and thankful for that. I am also grateful and thankful for the people who made the burning of so-called witches a crime. Homosexuals are born that way and they have existed throughout all time. It is a natural occurrence in nature. Perversion and cruelty is anything that hurts someone else against their will. Its not a perfect world but it is what it is because of free will.



Socialism will always fail because it robs people of their rights and their freedom and over taxes the people who work under the guise of helping others while the governments take a huge cut to pay for their wars.



I find it astonishing that people would believe in a 2000 year old book and a 2000 year old mythical God whom no one has ever seen, rather than what is right in front of their eyes. Aliens have abducted thousands of people and been seen by thousands of people who live and breath today. The so-called witnesses spoken of in the Bible are all dead and could all be fictional characters. Your proof is weaker than the proof I have seen for aliens.

On the other hand, I think that ancient aliens are the ones who invented religion and brought culture to the primitive humans on the earth. If it were not for them, humans may still be living in caves.

Every met someone who has been abducted by 'the Aliens'?

Most folks are a bit suspicious about that, look at them a little funny, not quite sure it they are on the level.
And thats the point.

What would you think if it was a secret gov. project to experiment on fellow humans......with a post hypnotic suggestion to explain it as 'aliens did this to me' That is even weirder than 'the aliens' story, almost harder to believe, which could be why they do it.

No doubt there are things flying out there.....but as to who made them and where they originate is up for debate.

Jeanniebean:

What proof do you have that people have been obducted?

If your proof is from Coast to Coast Am with George Norry, than I think your misguided on what is story telling and what is fact....Everything I stated can be proven...Even the stories in the bible...

Tours are given daily in ISRAEL on the facts of the bible....Life started in that region proven by College Professors...

Even Art Bell had complete remorse when Hail Bop comet passed by and all of those people commited suicide, believeing aliens were going to pick them up and take them away....Their bodies are still here on earth, last time I checked....

He stated that it was ENTERTAINMENT PROGRAMMING and DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, folks....think about how he felt after all of his ENTERAINMENT HE HAD ON THE SUBJECT, THEN THE CULT DID WHAT THEY DID....I am sure he felt very low and guilty on their deaths....

Can you prove and show me a flying saucers that crashed on earth? what about all those people being abducted?

P.S. I enjoy your views on life, so please don't get bent out of shape...we are both mind bending each other here...

We still love you for who you are...
Peace

ke7ggz,

If you really truly believe that your Lord God is coming back, I would seriously appreciate it if you would try to imagine that scene, and tell me how this event will take place.

If not by some logical process, or technology, then by what kind of magic will this happen?

If you think it is going to happen "soon" which everyone seems to have been saying for the last 60 years of my life, then maybe you have thought about how this will take place or what will happen. If you have not even thought about it, then I don't think you truly believe. You just say you do.

What I want you to do is get real about it.

That is not proof of anything. Established religions have been grasping for every scrap of anything and manufacturing things to back up their beliefs for a long time.



Entertainment programing holds a lot of hints about what is really going on.



I have studied the abduction problem for several years. There are thousands of very credible people and witnesses whose testimonies are very believable. (More so than a 2000 year old scripture in my opinion.)

I never said I personally had proof. What proof do you have for your beliefs?