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Topic: UFO'S
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Sun 05/16/10 08:47 AM



It's silly to think, that in a universe so vast, that we are the most intelligent and only life. How very human of us, the selfish violent beasts that we are. We're constantly destroying our own home and each other. If anyone IS watching us, we look like goddamn idiots.
i agree we'd be more of a zoo attraction to them


Wasn't there a Twilight Zone episode with this plot?

I agree with you two- we probably would be quite the amusement to them.


Yep, it was the one with Roddy McDowall ... it ended with him in a 'human-style' house with no exit - but it had big curtains that allowed the visitors to view 'Man In His Natural Habitat' ...

Stephen Hawking's right ... we'd better be damned careful about broadcasting our presence, 'cuz, like he points out, 'First Contact' didn't end so well for 'native Americans' ... word up, G ... better watch what y' wish for - you might get it.

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Sun 05/16/10 08:53 AM

ufo phenomena will increase throughout 2010.....(line from webbot prediction)...
anyone watch the news? since the begining of the year lots have taken place some filmed and reported on cnn..
i think 2012 will be the end of our world as we know it do to alien intervention(the return of the mayan god) a new age in humanity.


It's possible. (And the Mayan God was a blood thirsty Draconian.)

The lights went out the other night at my house and it was a cloudy night. Everything was pitch black. I was cut off from the world. I wondered if the grid had gone down.

We take so much for granted. Like lights. LOL

I worked by oil lamp for about an hour, then they came back on.

Thank all the gods for that.



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Sun 05/16/10 08:53 AM




It's silly to think, that in a universe so vast, that we are the most intelligent and only life. How very human of us, the selfish violent beasts that we are. We're constantly destroying our own home and each other. If anyone IS watching us, we look like goddamn idiots.
i agree we'd be more of a zoo attraction to them


Wasn't there a Twilight Zone episode with this plot?

I agree with you two- we probably would be quite the amusement to them.


Yep, it was the one with Roddy McDowall ... it ended with him in a 'human-style' house with no exit - but it had big curtains that allowed the visitors to view 'Man In His Natural Habitat' ...




That's it! Thanks!

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Sun 05/16/10 09:08 AM
Edited by Ladylid2012 on Sun 05/16/10 09:09 AM

ufo phenomena will increase throughout 2010.....(line from webbot prediction)...
anyone watch the news? since the begining of the year lots have taken place some filmed and reported on cnn..
i think 2012 will be the end of our world as we know it do to alien intervention(the return of the mayan god) a new age in humanity.


The return of Quetzalcoatl...2012 will be the precursor to the Golden Age, the Age of Aquarius. That is still quite some time away, we are still in Pisces. It will be my grandchildren who will usher in The Age of Aquarius. However we will all be here for the beginning. A balance with the earth and the working on our spirituality is the best thing we can all do now. Along with kindness, forgiveness, and compassion. Also meditation and, or prayer..depending on your belief system. For those who doubt this and think it's silly...at least do some research, if not for yourselves then for those you care about.

2012 Science or Superstition-The Movie
http://www.2012dvd.com/


The Return Of Quetzacoatl - Daniel Pinchbeck
http://books.google.com/books?id=T-KaqGHhFmEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+return+of+quetzalcoatl+2012&source=bl&ots=l48SfW60E-&sig=-JXE3EG6pBhzw_l22T4A53aBt8U&hl=en&ei=SxfwS_XzN4aksgO824GxDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false

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Sun 05/16/10 09:30 AM
Let's see ... the 'big day' is supposed to be 21 December 2012, right ... ?

My question is: What are all the disappointed souls who've sold their possessions and quit their jobs gonna do on December 22nd after the world DOESN'T end ... ? Kinda late then to regret tellin' the boss to 'take this job and shove it' ...

Research 'Millerites' for a really fun read ... 'Heaven's Gate' is a close second ...

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Sun 05/16/10 09:33 AM
I don’t understand why we’re so focused on UFOs, and yet not much we can do about it, instead of focusing our energy on something positive, like helping those starving kids in Africa, protecting the resources and elements on our precious planet.
In this post alone the word” waste” was repeated over 10 times, we are so primitive in our technology to fully understand the universe, what makes you think that this vast space doesn’t have a purpose, we just don’t know what it is yet. If our planet’s perfection in design and function is a mirror to the design of the whole universe, then there is no wasted space.
As for UFOs when I meet one I will believe, till then… I am just going to look at the sky and enjoy its beauty.

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Sun 05/16/10 09:52 AM

Let's see ... the 'big day' is supposed to be 21 December 2012, right ... ?

My question is: What are all the disappointed souls who've sold their possessions and quit their jobs gonna do on December 22nd after the world DOESN'T end ... ? Kinda late then to regret tellin' the boss to 'take this job and shove it' ...

Research 'Millerites' for a really fun read ... 'Heaven's Gate' is a close second ...



Why do you think the world will end?

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Sun 05/16/10 09:55 AM


Let's see ... the 'big day' is supposed to be 21 December 2012, right ... ?

My question is: What are all the disappointed souls who've sold their possessions and quit their jobs gonna do on December 22nd after the world DOESN'T end ... ? Kinda late then to regret tellin' the boss to 'take this job and shove it' ...

Research 'Millerites' for a really fun read ... 'Heaven's Gate' is a close second ...



Why do you think the world will end?


I don't ... others do ... the proper word for them is 'gullible' ... which is a kinder word than 'fools' ...

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Sun 05/16/10 10:03 AM

Let's see ... the 'big day' is supposed to be 21 December 2012, right ... ?

My question is: What are all the disappointed souls who've sold their possessions and quit their jobs gonna do on December 22nd after the world DOESN'T end ... ? Kinda late then to regret tellin' the boss to 'take this job and shove it' ...

Research 'Millerites' for a really fun read ... 'Heaven's Gate' is a close second ...



Who is talking about the world ending..your the one who keeps bringing it up...I know the world isn't ending..I'm not quitting my job or hiding out in a bunker. There is no one big day..there is a series of events...why must you insist on being so closed minded? You constantly post your views and want to change others minds on subjects, but when a topic comes up you don't jell with your full of criticism.

Those with expectations will be disappointed, I will have compassion for those who are confused...what will you feel for them...

How does one live to your age and stay so closed minded...do you not feel were here to evolve and grow, learn new things?
Gawd, I hope I never become an stuffy old person....

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Sun 05/16/10 10:16 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 05/16/10 10:20 AM

I don’t understand why we’re so focused on UFOs, and yet not much we can do about it, instead of focusing our energy on something positive, like helping those starving kids in Africa, protecting the resources and elements on our precious planet.



Starving kids in Africa is focusing on something positive? Do you know why they are starving? It is basically war and political unrest, which is a form of genocide. Genocide is the M.O. of our alien creators. If you don't believe me, read the Urantia Book. These "creators" of mankind (in the Urantia book) believe they have the right and obligation to eliminate inferior stock (people) on the earth. They consider themselves gods above men and believe they have the right to say who lives and who dies.

You can say you don't believe in aliens or whatever you want to call these non-human beings, and like cattle in the field, you can just go about your business or life munching the grass. The cows in the field have no clue that their human caretakers have control over their lives and plan to eat them eventually.


In this post alone the word” waste” was repeated over 10 times, we are so primitive in our technology to fully understand the universe, what makes you think that this vast space doesn’t have a purpose, we just don’t know what it is yet. If our planet’s perfection in design and function is a mirror to the design of the whole universe, then there is no wasted space.
As for UFOs when I meet one I will believe, till then… I am just going to look at the sky and enjoy its beauty.



That is probably all you can do anyway. I hold no ill will over aliens, good or bad. There are also good and bad people in the world. I don't judge all people by pointing out the bad ones.

But this is the bottom line: SURVIVAL. Survival depends on business. It is all about survival and business. The more money and power you have, the more ability you have to survive. That is the law of the earth jungle, at least in the physical world. Everything is this universe about energy and energy exchanges.

Money represents energy in the physical world. That is why money and business is the priority. So do you know what money is? It is currency. Currency is anything that you use to exchange for things.
The primary currency on this planet right now are things like gold, drugs, guns, water, food, and land. Oh yes, and natural resources like oil.

In order to be respected on this earth/world a country has to have an army to protect its energy (currency). If a country does not have an organized army they are fair game for evasion and take over. In fact, they are not even recognized as a country and the people are not recognized as people. They are referred to as indigenous natives or even "problems."

When you send money to help the starving people in Africa, you can not be sure, unless you go there yourself, whether or not your gift ever reaches the people you intended it to be for. That is because some 'army' is confiscating it and depriving them of it in an effort to commit genocide on the 'problem' of these indigenous natives.

It is the way of war.




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Sun 05/16/10 10:17 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 05/16/10 10:18 AM



Let's see ... the 'big day' is supposed to be 21 December 2012, right ... ?

My question is: What are all the disappointed souls who've sold their possessions and quit their jobs gonna do on December 22nd after the world DOESN'T end ... ? Kinda late then to regret tellin' the boss to 'take this job and shove it' ...

Research 'Millerites' for a really fun read ... 'Heaven's Gate' is a close second ...



Why do you think the world will end?


I don't ... others do ... the proper word for them is 'gullible' ... which is a kinder word than 'fools' ...


Sounds like a personal problem.

...and the cows in the field have no clue that their human caretakers have control over their lives and plan to eat them eventually.


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Sun 05/16/10 10:31 AM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Sun 05/16/10 10:31 AM
John Lennon got it right in 'Working Class Hero' ...

"Keep 'em doped with religion / And sex and TV / And they think they're so clever / And classless and free ... "

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Sun 05/16/10 11:08 AM


I don’t understand why we’re so focused on UFOs, and yet not much we can do about it, instead of focusing our energy on something positive, like helping those starving kids in Africa, protecting the resources and elements on our precious planet.



Starving kids in Africa is focusing on something positive? Do you know why they are starving? It is basically war and political unrest, which is a form of genocide. Genocide is the M.O. of our alien creators. If you don't believe me, read the Urantia Book. These "creators" of mankind (in the Urantia book) believe they have the right and obligation to eliminate inferior stock (people) on the earth. They consider themselves gods above men and believe they have the right to say who lives and who dies.

You can say you don't believe in aliens or whatever you want to call these non-human beings, and like cattle in the field, you can just go about your business or life munching the grass. The cows in the field have no clue that their human caretakers have control over their lives and plan to eat them eventually.


In this post alone the word” waste” was repeated over 10 times, we are so primitive in our technology to fully understand the universe, what makes you think that this vast space doesn’t have a purpose, we just don’t know what it is yet. If our planet’s perfection in design and function is a mirror to the design of the whole universe, then there is no wasted space.
As for UFOs when I meet one I will believe, till then… I am just going to look at the sky and enjoy its beauty.



That is probably all you can do anyway. I hold no ill will over aliens, good or bad. There are also good and bad people in the world. I don't judge all people by pointing out the bad ones.

But this is the bottom line: SURVIVAL. Survival depends on business. It is all about survival and business. The more money and power you have, the more ability you have to survive. That is the law of the earth jungle, at least in the physical world. Everything is this universe about energy and energy exchanges.

Money represents energy in the physical world. That is why money and business is the priority. So do you know what money is? It is currency. Currency is anything that you use to exchange for things.
The primary currency on this planet right now are things like gold, drugs, guns, water, food, and land. Oh yes, and natural resources like oil.

In order to be respected on this earth/world a country has to have an army to protect its energy (currency). If a country does not have an organized army they are fair game for evasion and take over. In fact, they are not even recognized as a country and the people are not recognized as people. They are referred to as indigenous natives or even "problems."

When you send money to help the starving people in Africa, you can not be sure, unless you go there yourself, whether or not your gift ever reaches the people you intended it to be for. That is because some 'army' is confiscating it and depriving them of it in an effort to commit genocide on the 'problem' of these indigenous natives.

It is the way of war.


Echoing these words in your head to make you feel better about yourself and justify your short coming, doesn’t make it right.

True most of Africa is a mess and most of the problem has been created by its own people, but kids that are born today have nothing to do with what happened yesterday…. So why must they suffer?

True, what you said about some organizations keeping most the money, but there lots of other organizations that don’t keep any and 100% goes to the needy… if you want to help seek those.
Just don’t stand on the edge of river watching people drown because you cannot swim, grab a tree branch and try to help, or run and get some help.
We are fortunate and blessed that we were born in such a great country, but we have responsibilities towards the less fortunate.



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Sun 05/16/10 11:33 AM

John Lennon got it right in 'Working Class Hero' ...

"Keep 'em doped with religion / And sex and TV / And they think they're so clever / And classless and free ... "



John Lennon is one of my hero's...he also taught of love, kindness, open mindedness, acceptance and personal growth. He was way ahead of his time and if he were here today (his spirit is still with us) he would teach a message as he always did..to keep our hearts and minds open, to not judge others, to stay open to all possibilities....that is how he lived his life.

You may be surprised to know that many of us who feel this way about such topics do not watch TV, do not dope, do religion, do not think we are clever ..we know there is much to learn. Oh how I wish I was 100% free...

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Sun 05/16/10 11:40 AM
Tuesday and 8:00 ON THE HISTORY CHANNEL. "Ancient aliens" Evidence that there were nuclear weapons way back when. Should be interesting to watch.

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Sun 05/16/10 11:43 AM

Tuesday and 8:00 ON THE HISTORY CHANNEL. "Ancient aliens" Evidence that there were nuclear weapons way back when. Should be interesting to watch.


Thanks for letting us know that...I'll tune in. :thumbsup:

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Sun 05/16/10 11:50 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 05/16/10 12:01 PM
Echoing these words in your head to make you feel better about yourself and justify your short coming, doesn’t make it right.

True most of Africa is a mess and most of the problem has been created by its own people, but kids that are born today have nothing to do with what happened yesterday…. So why must they suffer?

True, what you said about some organizations keeping most the money, but there lots of other organizations that don’t keep any and 100% goes to the needy… if you want to help seek those.
Just don’t stand on the edge of river watching people drown because you cannot swim, grab a tree branch and try to help, or run and get some help.
We are fortunate and blessed that we were born in such a great country, but we have responsibilities towards the less fortunate.



You know nothing about me and whether I need to feel better about myself, so you must be talking about yourself. You have no idea what is in my head. So kindly just stick to the topic and stop getting personal.

I did not blame Africa's "people" for their problems. I blame the world governments and greed, and I am simply telling it the way it is and trying to understand it. I did not say I liked it.

Sometimes we have to stop thinking that we can save the entire world.

I don't know which organizations keep most of the money (though many of them do) but what I am saying is even the good ones are robbed and prevented from getting to the people that need them in cases of war torn countries. It is politics and genocide that is happening. Short of taking up a gun and joining the cause, there is not much we can do about that.

If I were at the edge of a river and people were drowning, I would do what I could to save who ever I could.

As far as your idea that we 'have responsibilities towards the less fortunate' I have to say that my responsibility does not include the entire world and I will not have that kind of altruistic bull crap thrown in my face.

So how many X-homeless people are living in YOUR house?





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Sun 05/16/10 11:56 AM

Show. Me. The. Spacecraft. ... I'm easy ...


shades ... NSA, uh???

Then seems that you would be reminding us that the best "proof" is sealed and mired in Govt. Intelligence ...

This, said as a person raised in the mind numb of high level military ntelligence!

Not a day goes by that I don't remember my father's hypnotized plug~in answer when asked how his day, war, mission, etc. went ...

"That is highly confidential information that I'm not privileged to divulge at this time and place" ...

Yeah, to his own family that could care less, just attempting convo w/ a robot ...

So, Mr. Security, "Al" ... YOU show us ... Oh, do ... spock

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Sun 05/16/10 12:15 PM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Sun 05/16/10 12:20 PM


Show. Me. The. Spacecraft. ... I'm easy ...


shades ... NSA, uh???

Then seems that you would be reminding us that the best "proof" is sealed and mired in Govt. Intelligence ...

This, said as a person raised in the mind numb of high level military ntelligence!

Not a day goes by that I don't remember my father's hypnotized plug~in answer when asked how his day, war, mission, etc. went ...

"That is highly confidential information that I'm not privileged to divulge at this time and place" ...

Yeah, to his own family that could care less, just attempting convo w/ a robot ...

So, Mr. Security, "Al" ... YOU show us ... Oh, do ... spock


Oh my. What a jump ... from an avatar to a profession ... "Gullible's Travels' revisited ...

For anyone desirous of unauthorized releases of classified information, all they need do is subscribe to the New York Times - they'll print anything whether it's true, classified, private, or not ... Since I'm not one of the 'mind-numbed robot' believer types making claims FOR 'visitation', etc, there's no need for me to provide proof - I don't believe it's happening or that they're 'out there' ... The ones saying there's POSITIVE proof are responsible for providing said proof to back up those specious claims ... Remember: Incredible claims require incredible proof ... So far, I see nothing that qualifies as proof to back up the rather mundane claims of 'alien' life, 'visitations', 'technology' etc etc ... but if somebody happens to have one of their spacecraft parked somewhere ...

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Sun 05/16/10 12:29 PM
Edited by Dancere on Sun 05/16/10 12:41 PM



Show. Me. The. Spacecraft. ... I'm easy ...


shades ... NSA, uh???

Then seems that you would be reminding us that the best "proof" is sealed and mired in Govt. Intelligence ...

This, said as a person raised in the mind numb of high level military intelligence!

Not a day goes by that I don't remember my father's hypnotized plug~in answer when asked how his day, war, mission, etc. went ...

"That is highly confidential information that I'm not privileged to divulge at this time and place" ...

Yeah, to his own family that could care less, just attempting convo w/ a robot ...

So, Mr. Security, "Al" ... YOU show us ... Oh, do ... spock


Oh my. What a jump ... from an avatar to a profession ... "Gullible's Travels' revisited ...

For anyone desirous of unauthorized releases of classified information, all they need do is subscribe to the New York Times - they'll print anything whether it's true, classified, private, or not ... Since I'm not one of the 'mind-numbed robot' believer types, there's no need for me to provide proof of anything - ya can't 'prove' a negative ... The ones saying there's POSITIVE proof are responsible for providing said proof to back up those specious claims ... Remember: Incredible claims require incredible proof ... So far, I see nothing that qualifies as proof to back up the rather mundane claims of 'alien' life, 'visitations', 'technology' etc etc ... but if somebody happens to have one of their spacecraft parked somewhere ...



I've not seen anyone here, but you, express desire for proof ...

I've seen the majority here agreeing that they have experienced, know, believe something ...

Yet have no need, nor desire, for another's approval or agreement of their stance.

We are anything BUT challenged by you, or the subject matter, and this is in no way a contest ...

No approval is sought ...

... Free will always, believe what ya like, discard what ya don't. We do!

Just seems curious that you tout NSA as your avatar (profession?), yet forget to solicit that much of what's been seen/experienced is Government crafts and mission ...

And the rest/remaining "UFO" activity is perhaps NOT, and just as similarly covered up and security secreted.

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