If God speaks to all people then how do you know he did not tell us otherwise?

If Funches gets a guilty conscience for doing it doggy style then is God telling him that it is a sin? God talks to all through their conscience is what you said... right?

yes it would be a sin if Funches has a guilty feeling for doing it doggy style.

Well then let me ask you a question, have you ever felt guilty for doing it doggy style? If you haven't done it in that position please don't answere, i don't want this to be personal just something to think about.

so it doesn't matter to god if christians engage in the "eating breakfast" position

If that is true then only people who feel guilty are "sinners."

I have never "felt guilty" about having sex.

I would feel guilty if I killed someone or betrayed my friend or went back on a promise.

I have regretted having sex in certain instances.

I don't regret mistakes because I always learned from them. Learning is what mistakes are all about. Regret is the thought that if you had the chance to do it over, you would not do it. Regret is when you say to yourself, "I'll never do that again."

I am not a sinner because I don't subscribe to guilt trips being laid on me by others. Sin is a term that is pretty much associated with religion.

But if you are saying that "sin" is doing something that you know is wrong and feel guilty about, then that is another way to look at it.

If I murdered someone and felt guilty about it that would be a "sin." If I murdered someone and did not feel guilty about it, would that then not be a sin? If you felt justified in your mind for killing someone.. (perhaps he was a serial killer or some other horrible thing.) and if you thought that you would do it again if you had the chance, then perhaps that is not a sin. But it would still be a crime.

A crime is not always a sin. A sin is not always a crime.

A woman kills her children because her religion taught her that before a certain age they would get to heaven by grace and she thinks that after that certain age they were bound for hell because they were not saved. In her mind she was doing the right thing, but she committed a crime.

An animal cannot sin because they are ignorant to what that even means. A person who is ignorant of what it means and has no guilt about what they do, might be in the same category.

Truly, if God speaks to us through our conscience, then all we need to do to follow God is to follow our conscience.

No need for any gruesome fairtales about blood sacrifices being performed on our behalf.

Just follow your heart and conscience and you're following God.

No need for any books that supposedly contain the "Word of God".

That would just conflict with the idea that God speaks to us through our conscience.

if someone claim to be christian then they can not make the claim of being ignorant or not knowing...

God has deem that beastiality is an abomination but yet Cowboy believes that God would approve of christians having sex like animals

having sex like animals points to heathen behavior ....and being a heathen is clearly a sin ...but Cowboy states that God approves of this

that is because beastiality has absolutely nothing to do with having sex in the doggy style position. And i only said that God did NOT tell us we can not have sex in multiple positoins which would include doggy style.

well since it's doggy style then it does have something to do with beastiality since a dog is a beast ...God deem that lust could lead to other immoral behavior so perhaps your true intent by having sex like a dog is to have sex with one....which is why as a christian you are not supposed to take the chance of participating in such behavior...either way it's heathenism
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Jesus did not approve of heathen behavior ...and a christian having sex like an animal is being a heathen ....

According to the Bible all human behavior is a sin. It's impossible to be a human and not be guilty of sin. That's why Jesus had to be nailed to a pole. It's impossible for humans to resist the temptation of Satan.

When God had his only begotten son nailed to the pole he was actually conceding to Satan that Satan has indeed won the bet that he could sway men to disobey God.

The crucifixion of Jesus was God throwing in the towel. Just like he threw in the towel before in the Great Flood.

This is why Matthew wrote about the other saints the rose from their graves along with Jesus. The sacrifice of Jesus was not to save future men from Satan but merely to pay for the release of a few saints that were indeed released at that time.

Now God has long since left. Satan was the winner and owns all of the souls on Planet Earth now. We are merely the descendents of the losers.

I mean, if we're going to give this ancient mythology any merit, let's at least get it right.

Funches,, since YOU brought up another 'deadly sin' in your post

MsHarmony... I was only giving you the benefit of the doubt....if you can have hours upon hours of lustful sex then why not hours upon hours of "Wrath" ....as you said isn't it all about semantics.....so lets look at what lustful sex is .....



my analogy of lust to glutton(another 'deadly sin'),, is (as usual) right on topic and on point,,

How in any way was Jesus being crucified God throwing in the towel?

This is great. It is a religion simplified. I vote we make this the new world religion.

the world even distorts our conscience,,,,,

bad can be made to seem good and good can be made to seem bad

its admirable to try to be a 'good person' though

for christians , however, it is equally important to have that 'good' relationship with Christ as it is to have it with your neighbor ,

MsHarmony...the line of discussion was about "lustful sex", I've even explain how "Wrath" and "Gluttony" equated to lustful sex...this is why I asked if your analogy pertaining to the Gluttony of "eating breakfast" was your metaphor for one of the activites that may be perform during lustful sex ....

you indicated that it wasn't and since the line of discussion was about how the seven deadly sins could be attributed to having lustful sex is the reason why I stated that your analogy was bad(as usual)

even Jesus had to ask God why hath thou forsaken me....or as we say today WTF?

DISCLAIMER:
since Jesus was a shepherd
WTF? in this case means... what the flock?

the discussion was about SEX, you brought up wrath,,and that has to do with sex? (Im not sure what type of sex you engage in,,,,)

wrath is a 'deadly sin' as is lust and gluttony,,,comparing any of these things in that context is using the method of analogy accurately

wrath( to me ,anyhow) is anger to the point of vengeful indignation
those emotions have not entered my sex life at any point,,,

but thats off topic, although on point as a response to urs,,,


back on topic though,, the premise of enjoyable sex equating to lustful sex is subjective and not applicable to everyone (namely christian spouses)

what in anyway does that have to do with anything about God throwing in the towel to Satan?

“Since they did not consider it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, He gave them over to a depraved mind” (Romans 1:28).

Go back and read Job. Obviously Satan keeps betting God that he can win souls away from God.

Well, if that's what's going on, then for God to be so desperate as to sacrifice his own son to pay for the sins of man that is the same as conceding to Satan that men cannot resist Satan's offer to turn against God.

In other words, the very sacrifice of Jesus is a confession by God that Satan is indeed right. He can indeed turn all of God's souls against God.

In fact, he already clear won this game once already when God had to flush the entire human population over to Satan's side of the poker table. God started the game over again with a very small family of Noah and some other highly questionable individuals.

But clearly that didn't work any better because this God finally had to concede that Satan was right by finally sacrificing his own son to pay for the sins of men. Thus proving that Satan was right all along and had clearly won the bet fair and square.

It's a fable with a sad ending of a loser God.

And that was the end of the story right there. This is why Jesus himself harped on the fact that the story would end before that generation passed.

Now God is gone. Satan won all the souls on earth and your prize of everlasting life has evaporated. Sorry.

Well, don't feel too depressed. It was just a fairytale!

Like the three little pigs and the big bad wolf. There never was any Satan, or any God. It was all just the imagaination of humans.

And your everlasting life was never truly in jeapordary because you can neither be created nor destoryed. You have always been eternal and aways will be. There was never anything at stake to begin with.

Champagne for everyone!

I don't know how people have a relationship with an imaginary person.

Oh wait! Yes I do! I have many different personalities living in this body, and a higher self.

My Higher self is all of my personalities put together, and it is connected to a higher power. That is my "Christ."