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Topic: Is Knowledge a Gift from Satan
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Sun 06/13/10 02:09 PM



Free will is nothing but an ability. The prophets had the ability to not do God's will if they wished. They were not "forced" to do as such. They have a choice, and they chose to do as God told them to do.

Same with us today, we have the free will to do whatever we wish. I can use my free will to sit here and talk to you, or use my free will to go read a book, or even if i truely wanted to go use my free will to kill my neighbor.

If we didn't have free will there wouldn't be a possibility for those options, but yet there are......... hummmmmm....... interesting.



is God restricted by options? ...if the answer is no...then that is why God has 'Free WIll" and you don't and why you only have the "choice" to choose from a limited set of options

but anyway I'm not referring to the Prophets...I'm referring to the people...if believers have "Free Will" why is God trying to interfer by pushing his direction


because God loves us. God wants us to live forever with him not for us to just plainly cease to exist.


if God wanted everyone to live forever he wouldn't have created the lake of fire to toss them into....your statement only proves why there is no 'Free Will" or faith ...because it is God that pushes his Will in the form of direction

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Sun 06/13/10 02:13 PM




Free will is nothing but an ability. The prophets had the ability to not do God's will if they wished. They were not "forced" to do as such. They have a choice, and they chose to do as God told them to do.

Same with us today, we have the free will to do whatever we wish. I can use my free will to sit here and talk to you, or use my free will to go read a book, or even if i truely wanted to go use my free will to kill my neighbor.

If we didn't have free will there wouldn't be a possibility for those options, but yet there are......... hummmmmm....... interesting.



is God restricted by options? ...if the answer is no...then that is why God has 'Free WIll" and you don't and why you only have the "choice" to choose from a limited set of options

but anyway I'm not referring to the Prophets...I'm referring to the people...if believers have "Free Will" why is God trying to interfer by pushing his direction


because God loves us. God wants us to live forever with him not for us to just plainly cease to exist.


if God wanted everyone to live forever he wouldn't have created the lake of fire to toss them into....your statement only proves why there is no 'Free Will" or faith ...because it is God that pushes his Will in the form of direction



free will means you get to choose, nothing more nothing less. That is all........ you have the free ability to do as you are suppose to or not, you're not a puppet or a robot, or anything of such. We have the free will to do anything we wish. But with every action there is a reaction.

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Sun 06/13/10 02:17 PM

i've done answered your question, i said yes it would be. Any foreseen object is a prophecy.


if you bother to read the definition that you yourself used ...you would have notice that a prophecy was a prediction of divine inspiration from a prophet ....do a prophet knock on your door everyday to tell you that God said that you need to go take a dump

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Sun 06/13/10 02:29 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 06/13/10 02:30 PM


i've done answered your question, i said yes it would be. Any foreseen object is a prophecy.


if you bother to read the definition that you yourself used ...you would have notice that a prophecy was a prediction of divine inspiration from a prophet ....do a prophet knock on your door everyday to tell you that God said that you need to go take a dump


the 3rd definition is just a prediction, not prediction of divine inspiration or anything that has anything to do with God. Just a plain ole prediction. So yes my statement about taking a dump still stands.

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Sun 06/13/10 02:30 PM

free will means you get to choose, nothing more nothing less. That is all........ you have the free ability to do as you are suppose to or not, you're not a puppet or a robot, or anything of such. We have the free will to do anything we wish. But with every action there is a reaction.


wouldn't a robot also have a list of options to choose from to better the way it perform ...does the robot have "Free Will"

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Sun 06/13/10 02:31 PM


free will means you get to choose, nothing more nothing less. That is all........ you have the free ability to do as you are suppose to or not, you're not a puppet or a robot, or anything of such. We have the free will to do anything we wish. But with every action there is a reaction.


wouldn't a robot also have a list of options to choose from to better the way it perform ...does the robot have "Free Will"


no, a robot is controlled by a little controller....... you push the joystick to the left the robot goes to the left, you push the joystick forward robot goes forward, and so on. The robot can't do what it WANTS to do, nor does it even have any wants and or desires.

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Sun 06/13/10 02:40 PM



i've done answered your question, i said yes it would be. Any foreseen object is a prophecy.


if you bother to read the definition that you yourself used ...you would have notice that a prophecy was a prediction of divine inspiration from a prophet ....do a prophet knock on your door everyday to tell you that God said that you need to go take a dump


the 3rd definition is just a prediction, not prediction of divine inspiration or anything that has anything to do with God. Just a plain ole prediction. So yes my statement about taking a dump still stands.


so is taking a dump something you yourself only do once a year and it need to be predicted? ...if so that would explain why you're full of it ....

so Jesus the prophet had the amazing power to predict that people needed to take a dump everyday ...in that case isn't everyone a prophet

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Sun 06/13/10 02:41 PM



free will means you get to choose, nothing more nothing less. That is all........ you have the free ability to do as you are suppose to or not, you're not a puppet or a robot, or anything of such. We have the free will to do anything we wish. But with every action there is a reaction.


wouldn't a robot also have a list of options to choose from to better the way it perform ...does the robot have "Free Will"


no, a robot is controlled by a little controller....... you push the joystick to the left the robot goes to the left, you push the joystick forward robot goes forward, and so on. The robot can't do what it WANTS to do, nor does it even have any wants and or desires.


cool....and isn't God doing the same when he push his direction

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Sun 06/13/10 02:49 PM




i've done answered your question, i said yes it would be. Any foreseen object is a prophecy.


if you bother to read the definition that you yourself used ...you would have notice that a prophecy was a prediction of divine inspiration from a prophet ....do a prophet knock on your door everyday to tell you that God said that you need to go take a dump


the 3rd definition is just a prediction, not prediction of divine inspiration or anything that has anything to do with God. Just a plain ole prediction. So yes my statement about taking a dump still stands.


so is taking a dump something you yourself only do once a year and it need to be predicted? ...if so that would explain why you're full of it ....

so Jesus the prophet had the amazing power to predict that people needed to take a dump everyday ...in that case isn't everyone a prophet


Why you stuck on taking a dump? And yeah to a degree everyone is a prophet in the simplest form. And no taking a dump was not needed to have a prophecy for, and is why it's not in there. Prophecies aren't what made Jesus so special, Jesus being the only begotten child of God is what made Jesus special.

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Sun 06/13/10 02:50 PM




free will means you get to choose, nothing more nothing less. That is all........ you have the free ability to do as you are suppose to or not, you're not a puppet or a robot, or anything of such. We have the free will to do anything we wish. But with every action there is a reaction.


wouldn't a robot also have a list of options to choose from to better the way it perform ...does the robot have "Free Will"


no, a robot is controlled by a little controller....... you push the joystick to the left the robot goes to the left, you push the joystick forward robot goes forward, and so on. The robot can't do what it WANTS to do, nor does it even have any wants and or desires.


cool....and isn't God doing the same when he push his direction


not it's not the same. That robot would have absolutely no choice but to obey. As a person we have the "choice" still, but we'll have to live with the consequence of such choice.

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Sun 06/13/10 03:01 PM

Why you stuck on taking a dump?


because you're full of it.. what you are describing is a guess not a prophecy....in case you didn't know a prophecy is a message from God.......you disrepect God and Jesus by saying that they has to give you divine inspiration to take a dump ...instead of just admitting that you are wrong you instead place your Gods in the same category as a laxative ...this is why I question your christianity

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Sun 06/13/10 03:04 PM





free will means you get to choose, nothing more nothing less. That is all........ you have the free ability to do as you are suppose to or not, you're not a puppet or a robot, or anything of such. We have the free will to do anything we wish. But with every action there is a reaction.


wouldn't a robot also have a list of options to choose from to better the way it perform ...does the robot have "Free Will"


no, a robot is controlled by a little controller....... you push the joystick to the left the robot goes to the left, you push the joystick forward robot goes forward, and so on. The robot can't do what it WANTS to do, nor does it even have any wants and or desires.


cool....and isn't God doing the same when he push his direction


not it's not the same. That robot would have absolutely no choice but to obey. As a person we have the "choice" still, but we'll have to live with the consequence of such choice.


when God push his direction he forces you to make a choice that you perhaps otherwise wouldn't have made and that takes away your "Free Will"

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Sun 06/13/10 03:09 PM


Why you stuck on taking a dump?


because you're full of it.. what you are describing is a guess not a prophecy....in case you didn't know a prophecy is a message from God.......you disrepect God and Jesus by saying that they has to give you divine inspiration to take a dump ...instead of just admitting that you are wrong you instead place your Gods in the same category as a laxative ...this is why I question your christianity


well i'll post the definition again.

1.
a. An inspired utterance of a prophet, viewed as a revelation of divine will.
b. A prediction of the future, made under divine inspiration.
c. Such an inspired message or prediction transmitted orally or in writing.
2. The vocation or condition of a prophet.
3. A prediction

Nottice number 3, prediction. I prophesize that i will take a dump within the next week, and or translated but meens the same i predict that i will take a dump within the next week. Has NOTHING to do with divine and or anything to do with God in anyway.

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Sun 06/13/10 03:10 PM






free will means you get to choose, nothing more nothing less. That is all........ you have the free ability to do as you are suppose to or not, you're not a puppet or a robot, or anything of such. We have the free will to do anything we wish. But with every action there is a reaction.


wouldn't a robot also have a list of options to choose from to better the way it perform ...does the robot have "Free Will"


no, a robot is controlled by a little controller....... you push the joystick to the left the robot goes to the left, you push the joystick forward robot goes forward, and so on. The robot can't do what it WANTS to do, nor does it even have any wants and or desires.


cool....and isn't God doing the same when he push his direction


not it's not the same. That robot would have absolutely no choice but to obey. As a person we have the "choice" still, but we'll have to live with the consequence of such choice.


when God push his direction he forces you to make a choice that you perhaps otherwise wouldn't have made and that takes away your "Free Will"


no because that person is freely doing what God wishes. That person is only using there free will to do as God wants, nothing taken. That person at any time could change his/her mind and say nevermind and then do something other then what God wants. That robot could never do as such, can ONLY do what you make it do.

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Sun 06/13/10 03:19 PM



Why you stuck on taking a dump?


because you're full of it.. what you are describing is a guess not a prophecy....in case you didn't know a prophecy is a message from God.......you disrepect God and Jesus by saying that they has to give you divine inspiration to take a dump ...instead of just admitting that you are wrong you instead place your Gods in the same category as a laxative ...this is why I question your christianity


well i'll post the definition again.

1.
a. An inspired utterance of a prophet, viewed as a revelation of divine will.
b. A prediction of the future, made under divine inspiration.
c. Such an inspired message or prediction transmitted orally or in writing.
2. The vocation or condition of a prophet.
3. A prediction

Nottice number 3, prediction. I prophesize that i will take a dump within the next week, and or translated but meens the same i predict that i will take a dump within the next week. Has NOTHING to do with divine and or anything to do with God in anyway.


sorry Cowboy...a prophecy is a messenger from God not a message from your body that you need to take a dump ...if you read the bible or go to church you would have known that

if you believe that you can predict something simply by saying it then predict what the lottery number will be and then place all your life savings on it

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Sun 06/13/10 03:20 PM

no because that person is freely doing what God wishes.


that's generally how a robot works ...otherwise it's called a malfunction

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Sun 06/13/10 03:23 PM


no because that person is freely doing what God wishes.


that's generally how a robot works ...otherwise it's called a malfunction


yes very true, but a robot can not choose to do other then what you have it do, it literally can not. People always have the choice.

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Sun 06/13/10 03:25 PM




Why you stuck on taking a dump?


because you're full of it.. what you are describing is a guess not a prophecy....in case you didn't know a prophecy is a message from God.......you disrepect God and Jesus by saying that they has to give you divine inspiration to take a dump ...instead of just admitting that you are wrong you instead place your Gods in the same category as a laxative ...this is why I question your christianity


well i'll post the definition again.

1.
a. An inspired utterance of a prophet, viewed as a revelation of divine will.
b. A prediction of the future, made under divine inspiration.
c. Such an inspired message or prediction transmitted orally or in writing.
2. The vocation or condition of a prophet.
3. A prediction

Nottice number 3, prediction. I prophesize that i will take a dump within the next week, and or translated but meens the same i predict that i will take a dump within the next week. Has NOTHING to do with divine and or anything to do with God in anyway.


sorry Cowboy...a prophecy is a messenger from God not a message from your body that you need to take a dump ...if you read the bible or go to church you would have known that

if you believe that you can predict something simply by saying it then predict what the lottery number will be and then place all your life savings on it


I gave you the definition of prophecy, you can not argue with that. I gave the evidence that a prophecy can also be used as a prediction. It is not only a message from God. So i can still make the prediction/prophecy that i will have to take a dump within the next week.

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Sun 06/13/10 03:27 PM



no because that person is freely doing what God wishes.


that's generally how a robot works ...otherwise it's called a malfunction


yes very true, but a robot can not choose to do other then what you have it do, it literally can not. People always have the choice.


perhaps malfunctioning was it's choice

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Sun 06/13/10 03:29 PM




no because that person is freely doing what God wishes.


that's generally how a robot works ...otherwise it's called a malfunction


yes very true, but a robot can not choose to do other then what you have it do, it literally can not. People always have the choice.


perhaps malfunctioning was it's choice


perhaps, but listen what you said "perhaps the malfunction was it's choice"

So you're saying you not following God is a malfunction? Because that is not what he wanted you to do?

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