I believe that Jesus was born through a woman to exist as an example for all men. The only possible way for Jesus to be an example to all mankind, would be for Jesus to be born, live and die as all mankind does.

Well, not only that, but if we actually look at just the moral values that Jesus taught we see his teachings as being in almost perfect agreement with the teachings of the Buddha, and totally opposite to what had been taught be the Old Testament as the teachings of Yahweh.

Even the Gospels have Jesus disagreeing with Yahweh and agreeing with the moral values of Buddha.

Why would the Son of Yahweh disagree with his own teachings?

If we look at the parts of the gospels that try to make a case that Jesus was the Son of Yahweh we see that those parts of the gospels aren't even quoting the words of Jesus but instead are arguments given by the authors.

I don't see where Jesus ever claimed to have been born of a virgin, or to have been the son of Yahweh.

In fact, he said that "Before Abraham was I AM". That falls in line with the pantheistic views of Buddhism.

From my point of view, he could have been trying to say, "Look, we are all enternal spirit and we all have existed even before man made up his ficticious gods"

That's how I take that. Especially in light of the fact that Jesus also said, "Ye are gods". Why stress that if he wasn't thinking in term of pantheism?

I think the gospels were indeed gossip over a real man who did indeed try to preach the ways of Buddha and denounce the ways of Yahweh. I believe that there truly was a man who was nailed to a pole for having denounced the ways of Yahweh.

Was he the son of Yahweh?

Hardly. He didn't even agree with the teachings of Yahweh.

But he probably was highly educated in the ways of the Buddha.

Pure rubbish.

Who has the right to decide what someone's purpose truly is?

Really? I'd say the brighter some folks are, the less willing they might be to listen to the demands and/or expectations of others.

It was rhetorical.

Get it?

Rhetoric is usually engaged as a means of sarcasm in order to get someone to think about something. My post was designed for you to actually look at what you had written. Instead, you insulted me.

As usual.

You are not right. You have opinions and beliefs.

As do we all.



You do not respect the opinions and beliefs of others.

spidercmb...explain why it's pure rubbish ....only thing you know about the existence of Jesus is what you read in a book....can you say the same about your own existence

Funches, why don't you walk out into traffic?

I'm being serious, why don't you? Because you know that if you get hit by a car or truck you will be injured or killed. You know that is absolutely true. You also wouldn't jump off a high rise, because you know that you would be injured or killed by such a fall.

We know that it is absolutely true that two plus two equals four. It's an inescapable truth. So your statement that "the only absolute truth is the existence of yourself to yourself" is absolute rubbish.

And while I have no proof that the world existed before I was born, I believe it did exist. I'm perfectly rational in that belief. So I see that it is no less rational to accept historical records from 2,000 years ago.

So if you believe that the only absolute truth is that you exist, then walk right out into traffic and wait for a bus to hit you. Let us know how that works out for you.

Spidercmb....I seen cars ....have you seen Jesus?

Spidercmb....I seen cars ....have you seen Jesus?

And while I have no proof that the world existed before I was born, I believe it did exist. I'm perfectly rational in that belief. So I see that it is no less rational to accept historical records from 2,000 years ago.

Spidercmb..and that's the key...you stated that you believe the world exist

so now the question becomes ....do you "believe" you exist to you youself or do you "know" that you exist

in other words ...it's impossible to prove to yourself that you don't exist and it's delusional to doubt that you do exist

you can not apply this to any other existence but your own and that is why Jesus existence and his purpose is not absolute truth

You are moving the target. You have moved on from "the only absolute truth is the existence of yourself to yourself" to "What I've seen is absolute truth".

You've seen cars, but you haven't seen every car. Yet you don't doubt that cars exist that you haven't seen, why is that?

I don't know about you, but i see Jesus everyday. I see him when i see someone doing something kind for someone else. I see him when i look at a flower. He is everything and anything that is good in this cruel and fallen world.

Spidercmb..and that's the key...you stated that you believe the world exist

so now the question becomes ....do you "believe" you exist to you youself or do you "know" that you exist

in other words ...it's impossible to prove to yourself that you don't exist and it's delusional to doubt that you do exist

you can not apply this to any other existence but your own and that is why Jesus existence and his purpose is not absolute truth

hahahahahahahaha that was a very ironic comment there.

"Jesus existence and his purpose is not absolute truth"

Jesus and his purpose is the only absolute truth. Anything and everything else changes and or can change everyday. But Jesus and God has been the same for ever and will stay the same for ever.

Cowboy....that's call using metaphors ....or having hallcinations perhaps ...according to the bible Jesus looked like a Man not a flower