would you people put some shirts on?

omg thats h.o.t.t hot

i'm not taking it personal. i was just answereing your questions and responding to specific things in your post and is why i quote them, so that it would be clear and appearant what i was refering to.

you did read your own reply right? pretty defensive

Adam was his own man, he had a choice and he chose to do wrong also. A woman slaps a person near her, is the man going to be weak and do the same or be strong and say it was wrong don't do it?

yeah, no kiddin

I only have 1 question.....

What is the deal with the platypus?

Let me help you out cowboy, (your faith is refreshing and inspiring).
People are confusing murder with death. Murder is UNLAWFUL taking of life. By definition, God cannot Murder, as Creator of the ultimate laws, he cannot break them. Let me include another GREAT explanation that I copied off of another site


God created life and he has the right to take it. If you create life, then you can take it. But if you can't create it, you don't have that right." People assume what's wrong for us is wrong for God. However, it's wrong for me to take your life, because I didn't make it and I don't own it. For example, it's wrong for me to go into your yard and pull up your bushes, cut them down, kill them, transplant them, move them around. I can do that in my yard, because I own the bushes in my yard. Well, God is sovereign over all of life and he has the right to take it if he wishes. In fact, we tend to forget that God takes life of every human being. It's called death. The only question is when and how, which we have to leave up to him.



If I choose to dig up the flower I bought and planted,, it would not be the same as if someone ELSE decided to dig it up. I know it is a hard thing for many in this time to grasp, but the Father does not have the same laws as his children, just as his children dont have anywhere near the responsibilities as their Father. WE are not equals and people only confuse themselves when they try to use logic that requires us to be. IN fact, for believers, that is EXACTLY the logic that got us into this mess in the first place. IN the story of Adam and Eve it was their desire to be EQual to and know All that God knew, that caused their sin ,,and ultimately ours.

it's part of the Jesus nailed to the cross fashion look

not entirely correct. there are several definitions of murder in the dictionary, one being: "to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously". prolifers often equate abortion with murder and yet abortion is legal in this country.

By the merriam webster definition,, unlawful is a condition of murder. I had not heard the other definition although I am sure it has evolved to mean many things. I feel pro lifers(of which I am one) are wrong to call abortion murder, because it is legal. I just say its killing. People might kill to defend their own lives , they might kill out of malice, they might kill out of blood lust. The taking of life that is not ours is sometimes justified( in the case of self defense) and legal. Other times, I feel, its legal but unjustified (like many wars).

I appreciate the added definition though, I was not aware of it.

msharmony....lying about one's faith and what's written in their religious scriptures perhaps shouldn't be regarded as refreshing but a tradgey ...the Cowboy at first claim that none of the babies drown in the great flood because they were all on Noah's Ark until he was corrected by a "NON-BELIEVER" that only Noah's and his immediate family were the only humans on the Ark ....

then he claim that the mothers of the babies didn't drown or die in the great flood...so where were these mothers hiding when the waters came or was there a mothers only ark... then he claimed that Jesus didn't die on the cross ......so which bible is this written in..the Satanic Bible?

it's simple logic...there can be no claim that people will have everlasting life if there is no death

if all children will be saved then there is no reason to teach them from birth anything about your god until just before they become adults

I stand by my opinion that cowboy is refreshing in his faith and devotion,,doesnt mean I or anyone will think he is always right (faithful or not,, he is still human).

I believe we have to teach children when they are young the things that are best for them, including spiritual and moral things, including (for believers) Gods word and Jesus sacrifice. The younger values are instilled into us, the younger we start to learn things, the longer we retain it, its how the mind works. The younger we learn manners, the more natural they come to us once we are adults. The younger we start to learn other languages, the better retention we will have of them(children learn languages quicker than adults, in fact, because their brains dont have ot UNLEARN anything else to retain it.) For me, there are many reasons I teach my child about God. I dont believe everyone has to believe like me though but I feel this forum is a place for people to speak freely about whatever it is they do or dont believe. And, as a believer, amongst such a sea of disbelief,, I find cowboy to be refrheshing company.

msharmony ...if god cannot murder ...then that would mean that there are things that God is incapable of doing ...and thus God loses his omnipotency...since an omnipotency God is supposedly capable of doing everything ...those that make claims of what their God can not do lessens their god

so far only God and James Bond has a license to kill

You have mistaken my post for a claim that God cannot do on the grounds that he is incapable of action. The logic you are using is based on standards that apply to Men and not God. When I say God cannot murder, I am not making a statement of his ability, I am making a statement on the definition of the word. God can indeed kill(take life) but he cannot Murder( take life unlawfully).

msharmony...supposedly all believers are human which means it doesn't give cowboy or anyone an excuse to lie about the religion to justify evil as being good ....isn't that what Satan is always accused of doing

msharmony...since the logic applies to Man then the standards of man has to be part of the equation ...if Man deem killing of innocent people murder then that has to also apply to the actions of God or any other alien creature that decide to take human life

imagine... all an alien has to do is claim to be God and it gets to kill people without question

for those believers that believe that God does have a right to kill, then that right should only apply to his believers since his believers appear to have no problems being killed by him and view it as being good ...

Got a few questions for you true believers..
If you really believe babies who die get a free ticket to Heaven, why are you against abortion?
If you really love your children and you want to make sure they go to heaven, why don't you kill them before they reach the age of reason? You must realize the longer you wait the more of a chance they'll sin against God or (gasp) stop believing in God altogether. So why don't true believers make the sacrifice and kill their kids before they can have a chance of going to Hell?


yeah yeah, killing kids is wrong. Murder is wrong. Still, it seems to me, if you really love your kids and would do ANYTHING for them, ensuring that they go to Heaven, by whatever means necessary, would be the way to go.