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Topic: What Would You Ask God?
CowboyGH's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:44 AM


also keep in mind. Not everyone dies. Just because someone passed away on this earth that is not dieing. The only way you can die is if you go to hell.


so since Jesus "DIED" on the cross.... do that mean Jesus went to Hell?


but jesus did not die, show me where it says he died.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:46 AM


no, don't misunderstand what i said. All the babys were on the ark, BECAUSE they are sinless and did no wrong.


according to the belief wasn't it just Noah, his wife, 3 sons, and 3 daughters-in-law were on the ark ...so why are you saying that all the newborn babies in the world were on it ...

see how it appears you are trying to find a way not to make God guilty of murdering innocent newborn babies


only the believers were put on that ark, to purify the world of sinners and sin.

kaadeshka's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:47 AM



no, don't misunderstand what i said. All the babys were on the ark, BECAUSE they are sinless and did no wrong.


This is where I'd ask for proof if I saw this as an actual disscussion. Nevertheless... Where did you read that all the newborns were on the ark, or that they somehow go to heaven. Most of the bible implies that we are born evil.


they will go cause they have made no sins at all. Babies are the most pure humans in the world. Not 1 sin have they made.

And not all children are born of sin. A "married" couple having a child that child is not born of sin. The child born to non married is a sin, because having sex before marriage is a sin. You are suppose to be with only one person and save yourself for after you're married.


So, basically because I'm a bast**d if I had been killed or died only a few hours after birth I would have gone to hell? What about a baby that's born because it's mother was raped? That's some ****ed up beliefs right there.

A baby should not be made to carry the burden of it's parents sin, that is if they are so innocent.

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Thu 10/29/09 11:47 AM



also keep in mind. Not everyone dies. Just because someone passed away on this earth that is not dieing. The only way you can die is if you go to hell.


so since Jesus "DIED" on the cross.... do that mean Jesus went to Hell?


but jesus did not die, show me where it says he died.


well that would explain why people still have sins and why he wasn't in the tomb

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:48 AM
ALL BABIES THAT DIE AT BIRTH GOES TO HEAVEN. EVERYONE OF THEM




no, don't misunderstand what i said. All the babys were on the ark, BECAUSE they are sinless and did no wrong.


This is where I'd ask for proof if I saw this as an actual disscussion. Nevertheless... Where did you read that all the newborns were on the ark, or that they somehow go to heaven. Most of the bible implies that we are born evil.


they will go cause they have made no sins at all. Babies are the most pure humans in the world. Not 1 sin have they made.

And not all children are born of sin. A "married" couple having a child that child is not born of sin. The child born to non married is a sin, because having sex before marriage is a sin. You are suppose to be with only one person and save yourself for after you're married.


So, basically because I'm a bast**d if I had been killed or died only a few hours after birth I would have gone to hell? What about a baby that's born because it's mother was raped? That's some ****ed up beliefs right there.

A baby should not be made to carry the burden of it's parents sin, that is if they are so innocent.

no photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:49 AM



no, don't misunderstand what i said. All the babys were on the ark, BECAUSE they are sinless and did no wrong.


according to the belief wasn't it just Noah, his wife, 3 sons, and 3 daughters-in-law were on the ark ...so why are you saying that all the newborn babies in the world were on it ...

see how it appears you are trying to find a way not to make God guilty of murdering innocent newborn babies


only the believers were put on that ark, to purify the world of sinners and sin.


so since according to your belief or the bible there were no human babies from around the world on the ark...wouldn't that mean they all drown in the Great Flood

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:51 AM


So, basically because I'm a bast**d if I had been killed or died only a few hours after birth I would have gone to hell? What about a baby that's born because it's mother was raped? That's some ****ed up beliefs right there.

A baby should not be made to carry the burden of it's parents sin, that is if they are so innocent.


no, because our lives are not predetermined. So you wouldn't have been a bast**d if you would have died at birth.

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Thu 10/29/09 11:51 AM

ALL BABIES THAT DIE AT BIRTH GOES TO HEAVEN. EVERYONE OF THEM


but of course they were first murdered by God in the great flood first

kaadeshka's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:52 AM





they will go cause they have made no sins at all. Babies are the most pure humans in the world. Not 1 sin have they made.

And not all children are born of sin. A "married" couple having a child that child is not born of sin. The child born to non married is a sin, because having sex before marriage is a sin. You are suppose to be with only one person and save yourself for after you're married.






Read what you have written. You right out typed that the child born to the none married couple is a SIN. Therefore not likely to go to heaven, by your logic.


CowboyGH's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:53 AM




no, don't misunderstand what i said. All the babys were on the ark, BECAUSE they are sinless and did no wrong.


according to the belief wasn't it just Noah, his wife, 3 sons, and 3 daughters-in-law were on the ark ...so why are you saying that all the newborn babies in the world were on it ...

see how it appears you are trying to find a way not to make God guilty of murdering innocent newborn babies


only the believers were put on that ark, to purify the world of sinners and sin.


so since according to your belief or the bible there were no human babies from around the world on the ark...wouldn't that mean they all drown in the Great Flood


Yes they drowned and went to heavan. They didn't have to carry the burdens and heart aches of life. They get to spend their entire existance in the presence of God and all his glory...... how exactly would that be a bad thing?

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:54 AM






they will go cause they have made no sins at all. Babies are the most pure humans in the world. Not 1 sin have they made.

And not all children are born of sin. A "married" couple having a child that child is not born of sin. The child born to non married is a sin, because having sex before marriage is a sin. You are suppose to be with only one person and save yourself for after you're married.






Read what you have written. You right out typed that the child born to the none married couple is a SIN. Therefore not likely to go to heaven, by your logic.




It is there perents sin though, not the childs sin.

kaadeshka's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:55 AM
Edited by kaadeshka on Thu 10/29/09 11:57 AM
My life is not predetermined. I agree. But by the dictionary (and Bible) definition of a bast**d is: a person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child.

My parents were not married. Therefore I am a SIN upon birth. The only logical steps to take there after that is upon a sudden infant death a bast**d would go to hell, because they are a SIN based on the fact that their parents are not married.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:55 AM


ALL BABIES THAT DIE AT BIRTH GOES TO HEAVEN. EVERYONE OF THEM


but of course they were first murdered by God in the great flood first


they were not murdered, they will never die.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:58 AM







My parents were not married. Therefore I am a SIN upon birth. The only logical steps to take there after that is upon a sudden infant death a bast**d would go to hell, because they are a SIN based on the fact that their parents are not married.


you are not the sin, the actions that your perents did to make you was the sin. You are inocent of everything with that, it's your perents sin not yours.

kaadeshka's photo
Thu 10/29/09 11:59 AM



ALL BABIES THAT DIE AT BIRTH GOES TO HEAVEN. EVERYONE OF THEM


but of course they were first murdered by God in the great flood first


they were not murdered, they will never die.


Technically, they have to die...

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 10/29/09 12:01 PM




ALL BABIES THAT DIE AT BIRTH GOES TO HEAVEN. EVERYONE OF THEM


but of course they were first murdered by God in the great flood first


they were not murdered, they will never die.


Technically, they have to die...


dieing only happens when one goes to hell. Saved people never will die, this includes children.

kaadeshka's photo
Thu 10/29/09 12:02 PM








My parents were not married. Therefore I am a SIN upon birth. The only logical steps to take there after that is upon a sudden infant death a bast**d would go to hell, because they are a SIN based on the fact that their parents are not married.


you are not the sin, the actions that your perents did to make you was the sin. You are inocent of everything with that, it's your perents sin not yours.



That is NOT what you typed. Go back and re-read what you typed and fix. My conclusions are based on what you typed previously.

Also, where does it say that I am absolved of my parents sin. As I was created in sin and therefore am a sin.

no photo
Thu 10/29/09 12:02 PM



ALL BABIES THAT DIE AT BIRTH GOES TO HEAVEN. EVERYONE OF THEM


but of course they were first murdered by God in the great flood first


they were not murdered, they will never die.


according to the belief if the babies' spirit left their human body up to Heaven never to return to the body in the immediate future aka eternity ... then they are dead ...if that was a result of the great flood then God murdered those babies

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 10/29/09 12:06 PM









My parents were not married. Therefore I am a SIN upon birth. The only logical steps to take there after that is upon a sudden infant death a bast**d would go to hell, because they are a SIN based on the fact that their parents are not married.


you are not the sin, the actions that your perents did to make you was the sin. You are inocent of everything with that, it's your perents sin not yours.



That is NOT what you typed. Go back and re-read what you typed and fix. My conclusions are based on what you typed previously.

Also, where does it say that I am absolved of my parents sin. As I was created in sin and therefore am a sin.


I never once said you was sin cause your perents weren't married when they had you. The ACTIONS they did to concieve you was the sin, not YOU. What they do or have done has nothing to do with your salvation. Nothing anyone does or says has anything to do with your salvation, that is only between you and God.

no photo
Thu 10/29/09 12:06 PM

dieing only happens when one goes to hell. Saved people never will die, this includes children.


and that's the point I'm trying to make ...if a person kill a newborn baby then they are not technically a murder because God can do the same and would not be classified as murderer ...

this is what people learn from God that it's ok to murder

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