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Topic: Does anyone know what the definition of a liberal is?
yellowrose10's photo
Tue 10/06/09 11:21 PM
laugh they aren't my leaders or the head of my faith. no one is

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Tue 10/06/09 11:24 PM

laugh they aren't my leaders or the head of my faith. no one is


What is your church?

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 10/06/09 11:26 PM


laugh they aren't my leaders or the head of my faith. no one is


What is your church?


doesn't really matter. since their are so many different denominations...there aren't set leaders of the Christian faith. the reason there are so many churches is because of different interpretations of the belief so how could they agree on a leader?

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Tue 10/06/09 11:29 PM



laugh they aren't my leaders or the head of my faith. no one is


What is your church?


doesn't really matter. since their are so many different denominations...there aren't set leaders of the Christian faith. the reason there are so many churches is because of different interpretations of the belief so how could they agree on a leader?


Just asked...

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 10/06/09 11:32 PM
that's all I'm saying...maybe to some they are their leaders but not all Christians. I don't even consider my minister to be my leader. I consider him more of a teacher...not my leader. the only group I can think of (I could be wrong though) that has an official leader are Catholics and they have the Pope

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Tue 10/06/09 11:35 PM
all very interesting... there are actually plenty of places in the bible where 'translation' of specific words are often debated. One kind of has to go with their God given common sense and their gut to figure out the most likely meanings from the content of the story surrounding it. It would be wrong to change the bible for the intent of supporting one side or another, it would be fine though to translate it (as people have already done hundreds of times) from its original text.

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Tue 10/06/09 11:51 PM

all very interesting... there are actually plenty of places in the bible where 'translation' of specific words are often debated. One kind of has to go with their God given common sense and their gut to figure out the most likely meanings from the content of the story surrounding it. It would be wrong to change the bible for the intent of supporting one side or another, it would be fine though to translate it (as people have already done hundreds of times) from its original text.


The fact that it has been translated so many times makes figuring out likely meanings useless when looking for facts, no? First why would anyone assume that any of the bible is fact anyway? Written by man then manipulated by translation.. YOu say it's wrong to change the bible, but it's already been done hundreds of times.

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Tue 10/06/09 11:55 PM
biggrin This is no surprise to me.biggrinI already knew that the bible is a liberal book:thumbsup:

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 10/07/09 12:01 AM
there are several reasons for many translations. one is that some of the ancient words can't be accurately translated into English, there fore creating different versions. another is ....take NIV and the King James versions. KJV is old English where NIV is more modern English. another reason is that some people (like in the OP) want to add things for an agenda)

as far as why people assume the Bible is true is a lot has to do with faith. Just as people can't give fact to every ones satisfaction that there is or is not a higher power...whether it's God, Earth, or whatever the religion believes is the higher power. can't be proven that there isn't either. it's all about what people believe

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Wed 10/07/09 05:50 AM
L-I-B-E-R-A-L

L- lies...a liberal can only tell lies and spin the truth

I- idiots..it's well documented that most liberals are idiots,etc: Nancy Pelosi

B- berate..they being Libes love to berate ANYONE that asked them a question that they cannot answer (which happens all the time i may add)

E- egos..living for the camera and more worried about how they look in front of the camera instead of the people that voted them into office

R- rants..that's what 90% of them do on a daily. Usually, how they are getting treated unfairly and how everything is soo wrong in this country

A- ***..we all know that most Libs happen to be an A S S OR
Atheist..bc, heaven forbid that they may believe in something higher than obama. But, if it's life or death situation I bet the first thing that you Libs would do would be praying...lol :)

L- Losers..this is what's going to happen in 2010, can't wait :D

Hope that I clear this up some :)

Winx's photo
Wed 10/07/09 08:24 AM
slaphead

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Wed 10/07/09 08:30 AM

L-I-B-E-R-A-L

L- lies...a liberal can only tell lies and spin the truth

I- idiots..it's well documented that most liberals are idiots,etc: Nancy Pelosi

B- berate..they being Libes love to berate ANYONE that asked them a question that they cannot answer (which happens all the time i may add)

E- egos..living for the camera and more worried about how they look in front of the camera instead of the people that voted them into office

R- rants..that's what 90% of them do on a daily. Usually, how they are getting treated unfairly and how everything is soo wrong in this country

A- ***..we all know that most Libs happen to be an A S S OR
Atheist..bc, heaven forbid that they may believe in something higher than obama. But, if it's life or death situation I bet the first thing that you Libs would do would be praying...lol :)

L- Losers..this is what's going to happen in 2010, can't wait :D

Hope that I clear this up some :)



You sound like a small bratty child that didn't get what he wanted. Maybe if you weren't so focused you could see the lies and spin from both sides and not just the side you particularly dislike.


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Wed 10/07/09 08:32 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 10/07/09 08:33 AM
He thinks that most liberals are atheist. That's too funny.laugh

St. Louis has a large quantity of Catholic Democrats.





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Wed 10/07/09 09:27 AM

L-I-B-E-R-A-L

L- lies...a liberal can only tell lies and spin the truth

I- idiots..it's well documented that most liberals are idiots,etc: Nancy Pelosi

B- berate..they being Libes love to berate ANYONE that asked them a question that they cannot answer (which happens all the time i may add)

E- egos..living for the camera and more worried about how they look in front of the camera instead of the people that voted them into office

R- rants..that's what 90% of them do on a daily. Usually, how they are getting treated unfairly and how everything is soo wrong in this country

A- ***..we all know that most Libs happen to be an A S S OR
Atheist..bc, heaven forbid that they may believe in something higher than obama. But, if it's life or death situation I bet the first thing that you Libs would do would be praying...lol :)

L- Losers..this is what's going to happen in 2010, can't wait :D

Hope that I clear this up some :)



Wow.. noway slaphead

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 10/07/09 10:09 AM
how does one group making a new Bible hurt others???? just don't read it. we aren't seriously suggesting banning this are we?

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Wed 10/07/09 10:17 AM

how does one group making a new Bible hurt others???? just don't read it. we aren't seriously suggesting banning this are we?


Maybe they want to have a book burning.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 10/07/09 10:18 AM


how does one group making a new Bible hurt others???? just don't read it. we aren't seriously suggesting banning this are we?


Maybe they want to have a book burning.


that is the sense I get sometimes. IMO not a very liberal attitude

damnitscloudy's photo
Wed 10/07/09 10:32 AM
I think I will stick with the LOLcat bible;

1 Oh hai. In teh beginnin Ceiling Cat maded teh skiez An da Urfs, but he did not eated dem.

2 Da Urfs no had shapez An haded dark face, An Ceiling Cat rode invisible bike over teh waterz.

3 At start, no has lyte. An Ceiling Cat sayz, i can haz lite? An lite wuz.4 An Ceiling Cat sawed teh lite, to seez stuffs, An splitted teh lite from dark but taht wuz ok cuz kittehs can see in teh dark An not tripz over nethin.5 An Ceiling Cat sayed light Day An dark no Day. It were FURST!!!1

http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

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Wed 10/07/09 10:38 AM



how does one group making a new Bible hurt others???? just don't read it. we aren't seriously suggesting banning this are we?


Maybe they want to have a book burning.


that is the sense I get sometimes. IMO not a very liberal attitude


I think Rose hits on something of an important point. The modern American Liberal isn't a liberal at all.. The modern American Liberal, best exemplified in the person of Barack Obama, sees the Jeffersonian liberal ideology as an impediment to his quest for power. Obama gave an interview back in 2001 where he characterized the Constitution and Bill of Rights as a charter of negative rights, one that outlined pricipally what government "couldn't do to you" rather than what government "must do on you behalf".

The Jeffersonian Liberal felt the purpose of government was to champion and uphold individual rights by restricting the power of government. He understood that a government with too much power tramples the rights of the individual.

The modern American liberal seeks to expand the power of government in order to "make things fair". This is in direct opposition to the ideology of the Jeffersonian Liberal.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 10/07/09 10:41 AM




how does one group making a new Bible hurt others???? just don't read it. we aren't seriously suggesting banning this are we?


Maybe they want to have a book burning.


that is the sense I get sometimes. IMO not a very liberal attitude


I think Rose hits on something of an important point. The modern American Liberal isn't a liberal at all.. The modern American Liberal, best exemplified in the person of Barack Obama, sees the Jeffersonian liberal ideology as an impediment to his quest for power. Obama gave an interview back in 2001 where he characterized the Constitution and Bill of Rights as a charter of negative rights, one that outlined pricipally what government "couldn't do to you" rather than what government "must do on you behalf".

The Jeffersonian Liberal felt the purpose of government was to champion and uphold individual rights by restricting the power of government. He understood that a government with too much power tramples the rights of the individual.

The modern American liberal seeks to expand the power of government in order to "make things fair". This is in direct opposition to the ideology of the Jeffersonian Liberal.


that's what I've said in the past as well. I know it's not all liberal because my sister is what I would call a true liberal. but from what I've seen from some people....they are only liberals when it agrees with their stance on things. I've said that before and I'm sure I'll be saying it in the future

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