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maybe they are true liberals though and not liberal when it's convenient. But personally..I'm happy being conservative myself but liberal minded enough to know people are different and I won't have a government taking that away from me  Liberals arnt about the goverment taking anything, thats only what republican conservatives say whenever they get kicked out the goverment and liberals are in charge. Liberal means more liberty and justice for all. Not just for corporations.Yes these countries are true liberal because the believe in justice for all, and provide for their citizens. That is why they are the top ten countries to live and there are times when a government needs to be conservative as well. But I'm glad to live here...the good and the bad |
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maybe they are true liberals though and not liberal when it's convenient. But personally..I'm happy being conservative myself but liberal minded enough to know people are different and I won't have a government taking that away from me How is someone liberal when convenient. I dare say that folks here that dislike any thing liberal would be caught dead being liberal when convenient, though I am not saying it can't happen. I just can't think of a reason someone would do that. |
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maybe they are true liberals though and not liberal when it's convenient. But personally..I'm happy being conservative myself but liberal minded enough to know people are different and I won't have a government taking that away from me How is someone liberal when convenient. I dare say that folks here that dislike any thing liberal would be caught dead being liberal when convenient, though I am not saying it can't happen. I just can't think of a reason someone would do that. 
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maybe they are true liberals though and not liberal when it's convenient. But personally..I'm happy being conservative myself but liberal minded enough to know people are different and I won't have a government taking that away from me How is someone liberal when convenient. I dare say that folks here that dislike any thing liberal would be caught dead being liberal when convenient, though I am not saying it can't happen. I just can't think of a reason someone would do that. That's an answer? |
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maybe they are true liberals though and not liberal when it's convenient. But personally..I'm happy being conservative myself but liberal minded enough to know people are different and I won't have a government taking that away from me How is someone liberal when convenient. I dare say that folks here that dislike any thing liberal would be caught dead being liberal when convenient, though I am not saying it can't happen. I just can't think of a reason someone would do that. That's an answer? yep. I've explained it MANY times in past threads etc. but even according to the definition given on the first page of this thread...I have seen many (in here and in life) that call themselves liberals that are nothing like that definition. that is what I call a convenient liberal. they are liberal as long as it is what they believe |
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maybe they are true liberals though and not liberal when it's convenient. But personally..I'm happy being conservative myself but liberal minded enough to know people are different and I won't have a government taking that away from me How is someone liberal when convenient. I dare say that folks here that dislike any thing liberal would be caught dead being liberal when convenient, though I am not saying it can't happen. I just can't think of a reason someone would do that. That's an answer? yep. I've explained it MANY times in past threads etc. but even according to the definition given on the first page of this thread...I have seen many (in here and in life) that call themselves liberals that are nothing like that definition. that is what I call a convenient liberal. they are liberal as long as it is what they believe I'm not following you here. There are conservatives running around in Mingle calling themselves liberals? |
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maybe they are true liberals though and not liberal when it's convenient. But personally..I'm happy being conservative myself but liberal minded enough to know people are different and I won't have a government taking that away from me How is someone liberal when convenient. I dare say that folks here that dislike any thing liberal would be caught dead being liberal when convenient, though I am not saying it can't happen. I just can't think of a reason someone would do that. That's an answer? yep. I've explained it MANY times in past threads etc. but even according to the definition given on the first page of this thread...I have seen many (in here and in life) that call themselves liberals that are nothing like that definition. that is what I call a convenient liberal. they are liberal as long as it is what they believe I'm not following you here. There are conservatives running around in Mingle calling themselves liberals? you are following me. You know exactly what I said. but to clarify more...I'm talking about the people calling themselves liberals that aren't IMO |
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maybe they are true liberals though and not liberal when it's convenient. But personally..I'm happy being conservative myself but liberal minded enough to know people are different and I won't have a government taking that away from me How is someone liberal when convenient. I dare say that folks here that dislike any thing liberal would be caught dead being liberal when convenient, though I am not saying it can't happen. I just can't think of a reason someone would do that. That's an answer? yep. I've explained it MANY times in past threads etc. but even according to the definition given on the first page of this thread...I have seen many (in here and in life) that call themselves liberals that are nothing like that definition. that is what I call a convenient liberal. they are liberal as long as it is what they believe I'm not following you here. There are conservatives running around in Mingle calling themselves liberals? you are following me. You know exactly what I said. but to clarify more...I'm talking about the people calling themselves liberals that aren't IMO If I knew what you were talking about I would not have asked. Can you give me an example of someone being liberal when they are not? I know you are not referring to me because I know I am a liberal. 
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maybe they are true liberals though and not liberal when it's convenient. But personally..I'm happy being conservative myself but liberal minded enough to know people are different and I won't have a government taking that away from me How is someone liberal when convenient. I dare say that folks here that dislike any thing liberal would be caught dead being liberal when convenient, though I am not saying it can't happen. I just can't think of a reason someone would do that. That's an answer? yep. I've explained it MANY times in past threads etc. but even according to the definition given on the first page of this thread...I have seen many (in here and in life) that call themselves liberals that are nothing like that definition. that is what I call a convenient liberal. they are liberal as long as it is what they believe I'm not following you here. There are conservatives running around in Mingle calling themselves liberals? you are following me. You know exactly what I said. but to clarify more...I'm talking about the people calling themselves liberals that aren't IMO If I knew what you were talking about I would not have asked. Can you give me an example of someone being liberal when they are not? I know you are not referring to me because I know I am a liberal. think back to past threads. I've given plenty of examples. but if not...look at the definitions given and check them off. I believe something about not being bigoted is listed there as well. and well ummmmm |
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lib·er·al (lbr-l, lbrl) adj. 1. a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism. d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States. 2. a. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor. b. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes. 3. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation. 4. Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education. 5. a. Archaic Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman. b. Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious. n. 1. A person with liberal ideas or opinions. 2. Liberal A member of a Liberal political party. those are a few oh btw...if the shoe doesn't fit...don't wear it. but I know what I believe and my opinion |
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the definition varies depending on the time period and country.
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the definition varies depending on the time period and country.  i'm going by what was given in here
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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Wed 10/07/09 08:34 PM
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the definition varies depending on the time period and country. i'm going by what was given in here I wouldn't if I were you This isn't exactly a notable political science think tank. If you want real knowledge, go to your librarian or some other credible historical source.  FWIW, Albert Jay Nock wrote the essay "Liberalism, Properly So Called" about liberalism in 1934: http://www.lewrockwell.com/nock/nock8.html |
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the definition varies depending on the time period and country. i'm going by what was given in here I wouldn't if I were you This isn't exactly a notable political science think tank. If you want real knowledge, go to your librarian or some other credible historical source. FWIW, Albert Jay Nock wrote the essay "Liberalism, Properly So Called" about liberalism in 1934: http://www.lewrockwell.com/nock/nock8.html according to the OP...that's a real liberal
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Conservapedia is the site they are rewriting the bible on If anyone else wants to participate
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yep...I saw that. it's some conservatives wanting to do it
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how does one group making a new Bible hurt others???? just don't read it. we aren't seriously suggesting banning this are we? Maybe they want to have a book burning. that is the sense I get sometimes. IMO not a very liberal attitude I think Rose hits on something of an important point. The modern American Liberal isn't a liberal at all.. The modern American Liberal, best exemplified in the person of Barack Obama, sees the Jeffersonian liberal ideology as an impediment to his quest for power. Obama gave an interview back in 2001 where he characterized the Constitution and Bill of Rights as a charter of negative rights, one that outlined pricipally what government "couldn't do to you" rather than what government "must do on you behalf". The Jeffersonian Liberal felt the purpose of government was to champion and uphold individual rights by restricting the power of government. He understood that a government with too much power tramples the rights of the individual. The modern American liberal seeks to expand the power of government in order to "make things fair". This is in direct opposition to the ideology of the Jeffersonian Liberal. that's what I've said in the past as well. I know it's not all liberal because my sister is what I would call a true liberal. but from what I've seen from some people....they are only liberals when it agrees with their stance on things. I've said that before and I'm sure I'll be saying it in the future ...and only liberal when it comes to spending other peoples' money.  I don't really get into economics much...but I would think that would probably be accurate since conservatives, in general, are tight wads....so the other side would be, in general free, spenders Not true at all., They just believe in corporate welfare and spending more money on those who already have it. |
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how does one group making a new Bible hurt others???? just don't read it. we aren't seriously suggesting banning this are we? Maybe they want to have a book burning. that is the sense I get sometimes. IMO not a very liberal attitude I think Rose hits on something of an important point. The modern American Liberal isn't a liberal at all.. The modern American Liberal, best exemplified in the person of Barack Obama, sees the Jeffersonian liberal ideology as an impediment to his quest for power. Obama gave an interview back in 2001 where he characterized the Constitution and Bill of Rights as a charter of negative rights, one that outlined pricipally what government "couldn't do to you" rather than what government "must do on you behalf". The Jeffersonian Liberal felt the purpose of government was to champion and uphold individual rights by restricting the power of government. He understood that a government with too much power tramples the rights of the individual. The modern American liberal seeks to expand the power of government in order to "make things fair". This is in direct opposition to the ideology of the Jeffersonian Liberal. Obama's explanation is actually correct. The founding fathers wanted to limit government. So that is what our bylaws are designed to do. OF course the spin you put on it was much more derogatory too bad it isn't true. |
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maybe they are true liberals though and not liberal when it's convenient. But personally..I'm happy being conservative myself but liberal minded enough to know people are different and I won't have a government taking that away from me Conservatives do the same thing. They flip flop when it serves them. Otherwise there would be no conservative scandals with homosexual theme or outlandish government spending that puts us in the hole as a country big time, Bush to name one, etc.... |
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Conservapedia is the site they are rewriting the bible on If anyone else wants to participate I have to wonder if the Bible had just been dug up yesterday would anyone take it seriously at all? |
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