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And why do you have to take my words and change them all out of proportion to what I said? I made a suggestion. I willingly state that it needs working on, and that if in the end society does not agree with it then I can accept that. Why do you have to sit there and claim that my proposal of making people step to the bat and choose to do something for the better of the community has anything at all to do with telling them how to spend their money, how many children to have, etc etc etc. I ask now that you step aside and stop twisting my words and trying to claim I am saying something that I am not. But, should we demand how they spend their money? But, by your theory, we are demanding how they spend their lives, why stop there? Why not demand how they spend their money? And who they marry, or when, or how many children they have and what the sexes should be? Who their friends should be? What sites they can travel to on the Internet? How they think altogether? Once you start trampling on ONE individual right, you start trampling them all or at least open the door for that to happen. Actually, I responded to EXACTLY what you wrote. Granted it may have been taken slightly out of context, in that you asked a question that I responded to, though perhaps not in the manner you intended. You disagree. Fine, ok, you disagree. Maybe that's not what you meant but it IS what you said. I cannot respond to what you mean, as I'm not a mind reader. You're being contentious again, you get so PO'd when people don't agree 100% with your point of view. But the thing is, what you don't get, is that you don't ALWAYS have to be right and even if you are, I (or anyone else) am under no obligation to agree with you. However, since you asked so nicely (spoken oh so very sarcastically), I shall bow out and leave you to your fantasy world. BTW, world domination rarely works out. |
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Actually, I responded to EXACTLY what you wrote. Granted it may have been taken slightly out of context, in that you asked a question that I responded to, though perhaps not in the manner you intended. You disagree. Fine, ok, you disagree. Maybe that's not what you meant but it IS what you said. I cannot respond to what you mean, as I'm not a mind reader. You're being contentious again, you get so PO'd when people don't agree 100% with your point of view. But the thing is, what you don't get, is that you don't ALWAYS have to be right and even if you are, I (or anyone else) am under no obligation to agree with you. However, since you asked so nicely (spoken oh so very sarcastically), I shall bow out and leave you to your fantasy world. BTW, world domination rarely works out. Suz get back in my head!!!!!! We do not relinquish any of our rights so easily, back in my head you go!!! 
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I am not going to get into this disagreement again. certainpeople want to claim I make suggestioins and whatnot that I did not make, then they can stay here with themselves and whoever wants to keep them company. I am tired of the outright lies and twisting of words. I said at 18 teenagers should be given a choice between education (used the word college) and military. Never once did I say anything laong the lines of telling people who they can marry, what they can spend their money on, etc etc etc. And there is absolutely no relation between the topic I broached, and taking peoples right to choose their own lives away from them.
Ciao And why do you have to take my words and change them all out of proportion to what I said? I made a suggestion. I willingly state that it needs working on, and that if in the end society does not agree with it then I can accept that. Why do you have to sit there and claim that my proposal of making people step to the bat and choose to do something for the better of the community has anything at all to do with telling them how to spend their money, how many children to have, etc etc etc. I ask now that you step aside and stop twisting my words and trying to claim I am saying something that I am not. now, now Daniel, this is not gracious behavior. She is not taking nor twisting your words, she is responding to them, offering another point of view, which just so happens not to agree with your suggestions. Why would you ask anyone to step aside??? are you saying she's in your way?? |
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If you, as a citizen, do not want to serve in the military, then simply continue on with your education for two more years, and then go out into the workforce prepared and ready to be a proud member of society. I like the Russian system everyone should go in the military , no whiny reason not to , do there time and then go to school . I also like the system California . where the people can make laws they want and the elected idiots can't change them . when the elected people wouldn't do what they want then what good are they . why do we need them ? |
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wow, this thread is still around...surprised by that. I thought this ridiculousness would die off rather quickly.
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personally I think we should do like Switzerland
EVERYONE upon graduation from high school has to do two years in the military. Not necessarily as infantry or combat personnel but perhaps as support. Electricians, truck drivers, cooks, etc In Switzerland every citizen is required by the Constitution to keep a working combat assault rifle in their home. And they are all trained in military discipline. better to have it and not need it than to need it nd not have it |
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If you, as a citizen, do not want to serve in the military, then simply continue on with your education for two more years, and then go out into the workforce prepared and ready to be a proud member of society. I like the Russian system everyone should go in the military , no whiny reason not to , do there time and then go to school . I also like the system California . where the people can make laws they want and the elected idiots can't change them . when the elected people wouldn't do what they want then what good are they . why do we need them ? College takes MONEY and why are so many people insistent that the military is some kind of fix all..? If the CIC , decides military has to go and serve, it really doesnt matter whether they were support or not. Support in a military zone is still fair game. I would NEVER let anyone insist my child join a military where he may at any time be called to die as a 'duty'. I also wouldnt let anyone tell me I had to cough up thousands of dollars I may not have to send him to a college that still isnt going to guarantee him a job but will guarantee he start off life in debt. |
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personally I think we should do like Switzerland EVERYONE upon graduation from high school has to do two years in the military. Not necessarily as infantry or combat personnel but perhaps as support. Electricians, truck drivers, cooks, etc In Switzerland every citizen is required by the Constitution to keep a working combat assault rifle in their home. And they are all trained in military discipline. better to have it and not need it than to need it nd not have it 
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