My feeling is that the mental focus and strength of the sender is the key ingredient and it must be a conscious communication with focus and intent.

The receiver would be more unconscious and receptive. (Most people go through life unconscious anyway so there are more receivers than senders.) These are people who are easy to hypnotize covertly.

The only reason I succeeded in getting my message delivered to my subject is probably because he was asleep, and totally unconscious and receptive.

[bu]Dear JB[/b/u], once again u surprised me with your intention of proving something to skeptics! After all of the time and effort spent on creating the mass skepticizm, u go and disclose such a potent secret (as mind reading) to the mere mortals...(who choose to argue with you because that would undermine their Assumptions about the status quo Reality!) Don't you have enough dignity to obstain from such fruitless arguments? Really! Who are they that u feel the need to convince them? [bu]Let them wallow in their own ignorance!!![/b/u]

I, once, mentioned to one of those skeptics: NEVER Assume, cuz when you ASSuME, you're making an ASS out of U and ME -- nevermind himself (i.e. U) but leave ME out, please!
I also suggested to that skeptic to create his own thread -- THE HOLY TRUTH -- where he could post only scientifically confirmed facts -- and see if he would get many responses before switching the discussion back to sex...

* For Pete's sake, we are at the Singles' Site[/u/b]! (even though the forum is "Science and Philosophy"). Does it have much to do with Science? OH, please, GIVE ME A BREAK!!! No science degree is necessary for participation!!!

*** Yet, some member(s) have the audacity of suggesting other members should "Stop Posting" -- because, in their view, others aren't scientific enough... (such suggestions are good enough grounds for reporting the member -- other than for the chauvenistic attitude!)
And I begin wondering, Just who the F.. do they think they are???

Apparently, JB, u pose a great obstacle to that member because he wants to fly Solo in this thread! O'K let him -- just ignore him! Let him communicate only with male members -- since females are too weak in their minds to compare to him... (hopefully, he will find many other male members who've joined the Singles' site especially for scientific discussions with some obnoxious sucker!!!)

Being in a Single's site, HE CAN TAKE HIS SCIENTIFIC REASONING (i.e. verifying/testing/confirming every idea) AND SHOVE IT! ! !

Dear JB, once again u surprised me with your intention of proving something to skeptics! After all of the time and effort spent on creating the mass skepticizm, u go and disclose such a potent secret (as mind reading) to the mere mortals...(who choose to argue with you because that would undermine their Assumptions about the status quo Reality!) Don't you have enough dignity to obstain from such fruitless arguments? Really! Who are they that u feel the need to convince them? Let them wallow in their own ignorance!!!

I, once, mentioned to one of those skeptics: NEVER Assume, cuz when you ASSuME, you're making an ASS out of U and ME -- nevermind himself (i.e. U) but leave ME out, please!
I also suggested to that skeptic to create his own thread -- THE HOLY TRUTH -- where he could post only scientifically confirmed facts -- and see if he would get many responses before switching the discussion back to sex...

* For Pete's sake, we are at the Singles' Site! (even though the forum is "Science and Philosophy"). Does it have much to do with Science? OH, please, GIVE ME A BREAK!!! No science degree is necessary for participation!!!

*** Yet, some member(s) have the audacity of suggesting other members should "Stop Posting" -- because, in their view, others aren't scientific enough... (such suggestions are good enough grounds for reporting the member -- other than for the chauvenistic attitude!)
--And I begin wondering, Just who the F.. do they think they are???

Apparently, JB, u pose a great obstacle to that member because he wants to fly Solo in this thread! O'K let him -- just ignore him! (.. at least until he matures enough!!!) Let him communicate only with male members -- since females are too weak in their minds to compare with him... (hopefully, he will find many other male members who've joined the Singles' site especially for scientific discussions with some obnoxious sucker!!!) * * *

Being in a Single's site, HE CAN TAKE HIS SCIENTIFIC REASONING (i.e. verifying/testing/confirming every idea) AND SHOVE IT! ! ! ***

Whew, glad that is over... for awhile.

Future Tech Volume Three. (or how to make eyes glaze over)

Studies and recounts of events have shown that thoughts may not be affected much by distance. Someone may have a loved one in danger thousands of miles away, and be aware of events in real time. This factor would indicate electromagnetic wave transmission may not be the "whole story" Once we accept that "some other medium may be present" you take a step back and look at the real world. Multi dimensional math indicated that gravity acts in another dimension so why can't lots of other things? Maybe the dimension gravity works in is also a conduit for thoughts. Distance from the subject no longer matters.

Take the "sunglasses" described earlier, add a cell phone circuit, add bar graph abilities to the projection screen, and you have a device to give indications of levels of emotions.

You now have a device that allows you to speak to and hear another person anywhere, read accurate levels of anger, warmth, excitement, etc., see what they see, hear what they hear and visualize memories of the other as they occur.

Hopefully it will come with a privacy setting.

Isn't this similar to the concept of intuition as well? If telepathy is possible, is it so without the sensory organs?

I beleive that most people have had some experience which could be labeled as intuition or mental telepathy, however is it not possible that we are just misdiagnosing what is really going on?

I am genuinely stumped on why, in the earlier examples given by myself, that those thoughts could not travel across a single brain's hemispheres.

Wouldn't that be the best indication?

Perhaps it is the definition of the term 'thought' that is causing errors in judgement.

metalwing...

Is your last post able to be verified and/or supported somehow? I am interested in that aspect.

The problem right now is that every time we get a psychic claimant into a controlled setting they do not seem able to perform as previously stated.

That is why the majority of credible scientists think this is a dead topic.

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I still do not understand why folk pin so much pride on other people believing in there conclusions to subjective experience.

I still do not understand why people jump to conclusions without personal testing. I guess if I think back the only answer I have is that they do not know better . . . at least that was the reason I myself once did the same.

Okay you can definitely call this a coincidence but the timing was just right.

My Father has Alzheimer disease and most of the time he can't remember anything from one day or one moment to the next. Yesterday at about 1:30 my younger brother went into surgery in Pueblo for a very delicate back operation that could leave him paralyzed. The back operation lasted for 10 hours and four different doctors were involved. My Dad of course was totally unaware of any of this and even if we told him (which we didn't) he would not have remembered it from one moment to the next.

Shortly after the surgery started my Dad fell asleep in his chair and slept for a couple of hours. When he woke up (or maybe he was still asleep it is hard to tell as he talks in his sleep) he said out loud:

"I do. I was there during the whole operation."

My mother, (who is also pretty forgetful) wrote down what he said so she would not for get it. She knew about the operation on her son, Dad did not.

That night, Dad went to bed about 7:30 pm as usual. But about 9:00 he got up very agitated and was demanding to know "What was going on" and what he was supposed to do next. I had to tell him that "nothing was going on." He remained agitated for a few hours and I distracted him with some food and drink. Then he settled down and got up and off to bed he went and slept soundly the rest of the night.

Strangely, I felt relieved when he did that and I felt that the most dangerous part of the operation was over. They finished up the operation about 11:20 that night. (I am getting updates from my sister in Pueblo.)

So I think that there was some telepathy or something going on there. Of course these things cannot be verified. I just thought it was interesting.

There is something to be said about the purpose and intent of psychic knowing. Governments have tried (and may still be trying) to use this ability to spy on others.

If a person is conscious, and trusts their own observation and experiences then believing in them is not, in my opinion, "Jumping to conclusions."

Personal testing is a good thing. I constantly test my reading of the Tarot Cards because I am a total skeptic where they are concerned. I just have fun with it and I am sometimes flabbergasted and amazed at the readings and information I get. Yet I still test them. I still have an inner skeptic that says to me: "Oh you are just making that stuff up!" When I think I am doing that, I revert back to the basic and assigned meanings I have given the card and try to get some feed back from the person I am reading to see what they mean and if they make sense. I usually find something amazing.

The concepts and projections are my own, not some copy of a website. They are based on real technology that exists, projected into the future. My analysis to get here would be, shall be say, "wordy". Perhaps you can tell, but if you can't, my career has been in math, physics, technology, etc. I did not learn these things from the net. I actually use them. The net is a good research tool however.

If you want to look into the multidimensional aspects, look a few posts back where I listed a website with a one meg download of modern physics and the math required to make it happen. But, dude, it is some heavy shi*.

As far as reading the brain, there are many factors to consider, look up nuclear magnetic brain imagining. You might need a lesson on "brain function" to put the puzzle together. I tried to summarize these things as the posts progressed here so you might want to look up some the items I mention in my posts.

Some of this is just common sense. The processing ability, power, and capability of the modern cellphone couldn't have fit into a whole room a very few years ago. As a guy, you know, eventually it's gonna get smaller.

The two halves of the same brain being telepathically connected would not make sense. First of all it does not need to communicate telepathically because it is already hard wired. ANY other form of communication would just cause 'crosstalk' and mess the software up. The brain also has internal "filters" to eliminate unnecessary data. One of the most powerful memory/data processing portions of the brain deals with smell. However, if you are exposed to strong smells eventually you cannot notice or smell them anymore because the brain thinks it is "background noise". Therefore the brain would get tired of "smelling itself".

As you may guess, a full explanation of all this would fill a book ... or several. I have already been accused of being "too technical". However if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck ..... mind reading is mind reading, whether it got a boost from At&t or not.

Take it a piece at a time and post what you learn and what your questions are. You have the right attitude.

Well said JB, I agree with a single caveat.

I think that observations and experiences are facts(as long as they are accurate), and we draw conclusions as to why the facts are the way they are, when we do not have a direct causal link (ie know how it works) then we are indeed jumping to a conclusion . . but this again is based on the rigors of the scientific method.

I don't know about that. I don't know how a lot of things work personally. But I have faith that somebody does. I don't KNOW how the tarot cards work by I have a good idea, better probably, than most.

Yet science is not quite sure how dreams work. What conclusions have we drawn about them?

I doubt your up to date on research regarding the mind thought and dreaming . . . I know I am not.

It is odd at times when a mother can sense when her child is in danger although they are far away from each other. I have heard many stories including my wife of how she sensed something isn't right at the moment and stops everything to go see right away.

Sure enough something happened and her timing was right.

If that is something to do with mind reading, sixth sense again, or just a gut feeling that mothers naturally have, I find it very interesting and wish that scientists or other practioners would research on it explaining how that is possible.

LOL I thought I just did!

I wonder if we wrote down every time we had such a sense and then tallied the % of times it was correct and incorrect what it would be.

The issue at hand here is that our brains are designed to remember hits and forget uneventful misses.

Oh sorry! I have to go back and see what you wrote. I apologize. Today was a extrodinary day for my daughter and I am still gloating full of happiness. I shall go back and see your example.

What would be interesting is to make a question survey on it and then test each women with child to see if there is somekind of merit to this gut feeling, sixth sense, or mind reading, or what have you to see if there is some truth to this.

Was it just coincidence or is there truly such a feeling mothers have when their children are in danger although they are on the other side of town in school or work?

I've had dreams of friends dressed in black before I found out they had recently passed away, can't explain it but has happened on more than one occasion

wished it didn't cause it is freaky as hell