Topic: "biblical" marriage
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Mon 06/08/09 08:03 AM
:smile: Christians didnt invent marriage.:smile:

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Tue 06/09/09 07:24 AM

i've found that when things like this are mentioned, religious people go silent and don't respond. i appreciate those all those who have responded thus far, but are there any religious folk out there who oppose gay marraige on biblical grounds who can explain to me why you insist on doing so despite the fact that biblical morals are obviously flawed by today's standard?

i promise no sarcasm or attempts at being confrontational... i just genuinely want to know the rationale... ohwell

pweez?
Lots of rationale, but the cold hard truth is bigotry.

Learned fear and loathing. People can justify anything if they work hard enough. Almost doesn't matter what the justification is, the core of it is the same.

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Tue 06/09/09 10:12 PM


i've found that when things like this are mentioned, religious people go silent and don't respond. i appreciate those all those who have responded thus far, but are there any religious folk out there who oppose gay marraige on biblical grounds who can explain to me why you insist on doing so despite the fact that biblical morals are obviously flawed by today's standard?

i promise no sarcasm or attempts at being confrontational... i just genuinely want to know the rationale... ohwell

pweez?
Lots of rationale, but the cold hard truth is bigotry.

Learned fear and loathing. People can justify anything if they work hard enough. Almost doesn't matter what the justification is, the core of it is the same.




Yes the Biblical ground is they are unnatural. The same as having your sheep,dog horse ,cow as your mate.

You are not born homosexual. It goes against nature. You are taught it by the same bigots who on here believe they are apes.

Thiers a good sex partner don't ya think. geeeeshhh

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Tue 06/09/09 10:26 PM



i've found that when things like this are mentioned, religious people go silent and don't respond. i appreciate those all those who have responded thus far, but are there any religious folk out there who oppose gay marraige on biblical grounds who can explain to me why you insist on doing so despite the fact that biblical morals are obviously flawed by today's standard?

i promise no sarcasm or attempts at being confrontational... i just genuinely want to know the rationale... ohwell

pweez?
Lots of rationale, but the cold hard truth is bigotry.

Learned fear and loathing. People can justify anything if they work hard enough. Almost doesn't matter what the justification is, the core of it is the same.




Yes the Biblical ground is they are unnatural. The same as having your sheep,dog horse ,cow as your mate.

You are not born homosexual. It goes against nature. You are taught it by the same bigots who on here believe they are apes.

Thiers a good sex partner don't ya think. geeeeshhh
:smile: But Miles,that is just an unprovable opinion not agreed to by everyone.:smile:It may be right or it may be wrong but its an opinion.:smile:And there were cultures in the past that accepted homosexuality.:smile:The crux of the matter is that the constitution of this and most countries that have one,is equal rights to everyone, and the opinions of one group,even the majority,does not trump the rights of another group.:smile:Marriage is a goverment institution, not a religious institution, because our rights come from the goverment and not the church.:smile:And it is unlawful for the goverment to discriminate.:smile:That is what this all comes down to.:smile:And the reason I take the position on this issue that I do is that I don't see how a gay persons marriage is going to affect anyone elses marriage.:smile:

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Tue 06/09/09 10:28 PM
bigsmile P.S.:smile: And Miles, Are humans primates?:smile:

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Wed 06/10/09 01:35 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Wed 06/10/09 01:37 PM




i've found that when things like this are mentioned, religious people go silent and don't respond. i appreciate those all those who have responded thus far, but are there any religious folk out there who oppose gay marraige on biblical grounds who can explain to me why you insist on doing so despite the fact that biblical morals are obviously flawed by today's standard?

i promise no sarcasm or attempts at being confrontational... i just genuinely want to know the rationale... ohwell

pweez?
Lots of rationale, but the cold hard truth is bigotry.

Learned fear and loathing. People can justify anything if they work hard enough. Almost doesn't matter what the justification is, the core of it is the same.




Yes the Biblical ground is they are unnatural. The same as having your sheep,dog horse ,cow as your mate.

You are not born homosexual. It goes against nature. You are taught it by the same bigots who on here believe they are apes.

Thiers a good sex partner don't ya think. geeeeshhh
:smile: But Miles,that is just an unprovable opinion not agreed to by everyone.:smile:It may be right or it may be wrong but its an opinion.:smile:And there were cultures in the past that accepted homosexuality.:smile:The crux of the matter is that the constitution of this and most countries that have one,is equal rights to everyone, and the opinions of one group,even the majority,does not trump the rights of another group.:smile:Marriage is a goverment institution, not a religious institution, because our rights come from the goverment and not the church.:smile:And it is unlawful for the goverment to discriminate.:smile:That is what this all comes down to.:smile:And the reason I take the position on this issue that I do is that I don't see how a gay persons marriage is going to affect anyone elses marriage.:smile:


it is an opinion that the same species are meant to mate to the same?

A life of Homo's and the world will end. Simple fact.

Fact we are being taught to hate.

Where did that come from?


The sex crave of sex offenders. I am not saying that child rapists should not be thrown in jail and never come out.

What I am saying believe it or not the Govt. has created a villain for you to hate who most are decent people. My goodness 3% of sex offenders ever commit another crime ever!!

Thats gov sponcered Terrorism making you find equal rights for for gays and spend all your time worrying about that as they take your rights away slowly.

Thats what such a shame on all these boards is the real perverts are given rights over you who tries to raise a family. Give you a offshoot lie to think about wanting to kill as bumber stickers now say Kill all the Sex Offenders.

What if I put a banner up that said Kill all The Gays?


Would that be okay?

Apples and oranges are ferries and the Hulk.

No difference but you all are so DARN stupid you argue about rights of so called liberty yo8u never had.

Try not paying your taxes and see what happens yet Taxes have never been voted into law.

Why not?

So the loopholes for the rich can be thier.

You think we get by with things.Hell No.. They are playing us against each other as they take everyones rights away and we say HELL YEA!!!!!!

Thats equality in this great nation..Miles

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 06/10/09 03:22 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 06/10/09 03:47 PM





i've found that when things like this are mentioned, religious people go silent and don't respond. i appreciate those all those who have responded thus far, but are there any religious folk out there who oppose gay marraige on biblical grounds who can explain to me why you insist on doing so despite the fact that biblical morals are obviously flawed by today's standard?

i promise no sarcasm or attempts at being confrontational... i just genuinely want to know the rationale... ohwell

pweez?
Lots of rationale, but the cold hard truth is bigotry.

Learned fear and loathing. People can justify anything if they work hard enough. Almost doesn't matter what the justification is, the core of it is the same.




Yes the Biblical ground is they are unnatural. The same as having your sheep,dog horse ,cow as your mate.

You are not born homosexual. It goes against nature. You are taught it by the same bigots who on here believe they are apes.

Thiers a good sex partner don't ya think. geeeeshhh
:smile: But Miles,that is just an unprovable opinion not agreed to by everyone.:smile:It may be right or it may be wrong but its an opinion.:smile:And there were cultures in the past that accepted homosexuality.:smile:The crux of the matter is that the constitution of this and most countries that have one,is equal rights to everyone, and the opinions of one group,even the majority,does not trump the rights of another group.:smile:Marriage is a goverment institution, not a religious institution, because our rights come from the goverment and not the church.:smile:And it is unlawful for the goverment to discriminate.:smile:That is what this all comes down to.:smile:And the reason I take the position on this issue that I do is that I don't see how a gay persons marriage is going to affect anyone elses marriage.:smile:


it is an opinion that the same species are meant to mate to the same?

A life of Homo's and the world will end. Simple fact.

Fact we are being taught to hate.

Where did that come from?


The sex crave of sex offenders. I am not saying that child rapists should not be thrown in jail and never come out.

What I am saying believe it or not the Govt. has created a villain for you to hate who most are decent people. My goodness 3% of sex offenders ever commit another crime ever!!

Thats gov sponcered Terrorism making you find equal rights for for gays and spend all your time worrying about that as they take your rights away slowly.

Thats what such a shame on all these boards is the real perverts are given rights over you who tries to raise a family. Give you a offshoot lie to think about wanting to kill as bumber stickers now say Kill all the Sex Offenders.

What if I put a banner up that said Kill all The Gays?


Would that be okay?

Apples and oranges are ferries and the Hulk.

No difference but you all are so DARN stupid you argue about rights of so called liberty yo8u never had.

Try not paying your taxes and see what happens yet Taxes have never been voted into law.

Why not?

So the loopholes for the rich can be thier.

You think we get by with things.Hell No.. They are playing us against each other as they take everyones rights away and we say HELL YEA!!!!!!

Thats equality in this great nation..Miles
happy Surprisingly I agree with several points you have made.happyYes, I agree that we never really had rights except what we have been allowed to believe we have.happyYou only have as many rights as you have money.happyIt does seem to be that way.drinkerThe rich have always run things all along.happyYes, I agree that the sex offender stuff is exagerated and sensationalized and being used to take away peoples rights.:smile: Same with the terrorism stuff.happy Yes, the gay marriage thing is probably a distraction but there are still gay people that want to get married so let them I say.:smile:Marriage is already a joke since almost everyone gets divorced nowadays anyway.:smile:



drinker I knew you would make some great points if you were challenged to elaborate, MilesdrinkerYou're a deep thinkerbigsmile

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Wed 06/10/09 05:13 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Wed 06/10/09 05:23 PM






i've found that when things like this are mentioned, religious people go silent and don't respond. i appreciate those all those who have responded thus far, but are there any religious folk out there who oppose gay marraige on biblical grounds who can explain to me why you insist on doing so despite the fact that biblical morals are obviously flawed by today's standard?

i promise no sarcasm or attempts at being confrontational... i just genuinely want to know the rationale... ohwell

pweez?
Lots of rationale, but the cold hard truth is bigotry.

Learned fear and loathing. People can justify anything if they work hard enough. Almost doesn't matter what the justification is, the core of it is the same.




Yes the Biblical ground is they are unnatural. The same as having your sheep,dog horse ,cow as your mate.

You are not born homosexual. It goes against nature. You are taught it by the same bigots who on here believe they are apes.

Thiers a good sex partner don't ya think. geeeeshhh
:smile: But Miles,that is just an unprovable opinion not agreed to by everyone.:smile:It may be right or it may be wrong but its an opinion.:smile:And there were cultures in the past that accepted homosexuality.:smile:The crux of the matter is that the constitution of this and most countries that have one,is equal rights to everyone, and the opinions of one group,even the majority,does not trump the rights of another group.:smile:Marriage is a goverment institution, not a religious institution, because our rights come from the goverment and not the church.:smile:And it is unlawful for the goverment to discriminate.:smile:That is what this all comes down to.:smile:And the reason I take the position on this issue that I do is that I don't see how a gay persons marriage is going to affect anyone elses marriage.:smile:


it is an opinion that the same species are meant to mate to the same?

A life of Homo's and the world will end. Simple fact.

Fact we are being taught to hate.

Where did that come from?


The sex crave of sex offenders. I am not saying that child rapists should not be thrown in jail and never come out.

What I am saying believe it or not the Govt. has created a villain for you to hate who most are decent people. My goodness 3% of sex offenders ever commit another crime ever!!

Thats gov sponcered Terrorism making you find equal rights for for gays and spend all your time worrying about that as they take your rights away slowly.

Thats what such a shame on all these boards is the real perverts are given rights over you who tries to raise a family. Give you a offshoot lie to think about wanting to kill as bumber stickers now say Kill all the Sex Offenders.

What if I put a banner up that said Kill all The Gays?


Would that be okay?

Apples and oranges are ferries and the Hulk.

No difference but you all are so DARN stupid you argue about rights of so called liberty yo8u never had.

Try not paying your taxes and see what happens yet Taxes have never been voted into law.

Why not?

So the loopholes for the rich can be thier.

You think we get by with things.Hell No.. They are playing us against each other as they take everyones rights away and we say HELL YEA!!!!!!

Thats equality in this great nation..Miles
happy Surprisingly I agree with several points you have made.happyYes, I agree that we never really had rights except what we have been allowed to believe we have.happyYou only have as many rights as you have money.happyIt does seem to be that way.drinkerThe rich have always run things all along.happyYes, I agree that the sex offender stuff is exagerated and sensationalized and being used to take away peoples rights.:smile: Same with the terrorism stuff.happy Yes, the gay marriage thing is probably a distraction but there are still gay people that want to get married so let them I say.:smile:Marriage is already a joke since almost everyone gets divorced nowadays anyway.:smile:



drinker I knew you would make some great points if you were challenged to elaborate, MilesdrinkerYou're a deep thinkerbigsmile


I agree I do not really care about the issue and i won't have an impact anyway.

What is in the cards has already been decided for the issue as a scapegoat for us to look the other way.

Look at the federal reserve.

Owned by us ? Noway. By the Very riches people in the country.

We hear oh the federal reserve is bringing interest rates down? Boloney.

They give a bank 1 dollar to lend and then say we will back you for you to loan out 10 dollars.

So when you hear these rich families are only getting 2 or 3% for thier money.

Think again and take it times 10. 20 to 30 %.

That is why we hear all the time stay calm we can't have a run on the banks.

Why?

1 they do not have it.


2 the Federal Reserve is now on the hook for the money.


Getting the picture of how our gov. runs.

Who had no problem getting a 700 Billion to 1 trillion bailout?

Who raised hell over the autoworkers make 2 much money and it has to stop.

so 25 to 30 Billion hell is raised and we are told it is these big excutives fault and the Unions?


Boy lets get on that banwagon.. Hell Yell Go Congress!!!!

2 million FAMILIES WHO ARE GOING TO IN THE NEAR FUTURE LOSE 20 TO 40% OF THIER DISPOSABLE INCOME.

Does this hurt the rich?

No it enslaves us and we Say Hell Yea Congress You are our SUPER HERO'S WE GET SCREWED AGAIN And Love it.

Man they should be used car salesmen.

Now back to the federal Reserve. They are who the Tax payers are bailing out. The RICH AND FAMOUS behind the scenes.

George Bush Sr is one of them.

Can you imagine that.

Only one news agency had the balls to go to the Freedom of Information Act and request the Feds accounting.

What did they find?

2 TRILLION WITH A T!!!!! Is missing.

They went and got an order for the Federal Reserve to dish over thier Finances.

Thier answer. just like Bush said. You have no control over us that is priveledged information.

Now ask yourselves as most on here probally do not know about this happening back in Oct. 2008. Why do I not know about this?



Why was this not all over the media?

Answer we fight with each other so much they do what they want in the back ground and we FREELY Bend Over and take it. Then we say oh Sooo Gooood!!!! Shalom....Miles




MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 06/10/09 05:20 PM







i've found that when things like this are mentioned, religious people go silent and don't respond. i appreciate those all those who have responded thus far, but are there any religious folk out there who oppose gay marraige on biblical grounds who can explain to me why you insist on doing so despite the fact that biblical morals are obviously flawed by today's standard?

i promise no sarcasm or attempts at being confrontational... i just genuinely want to know the rationale... ohwell

pweez?
Lots of rationale, but the cold hard truth is bigotry.

Learned fear and loathing. People can justify anything if they work hard enough. Almost doesn't matter what the justification is, the core of it is the same.




Yes the Biblical ground is they are unnatural. The same as having your sheep,dog horse ,cow as your mate.

You are not born homosexual. It goes against nature. You are taught it by the same bigots who on here believe they are apes.

Thiers a good sex partner don't ya think. geeeeshhh
:smile: But Miles,that is just an unprovable opinion not agreed to by everyone.:smile:It may be right or it may be wrong but its an opinion.:smile:And there were cultures in the past that accepted homosexuality.:smile:The crux of the matter is that the constitution of this and most countries that have one,is equal rights to everyone, and the opinions of one group,even the majority,does not trump the rights of another group.:smile:Marriage is a goverment institution, not a religious institution, because our rights come from the goverment and not the church.:smile:And it is unlawful for the goverment to discriminate.:smile:That is what this all comes down to.:smile:And the reason I take the position on this issue that I do is that I don't see how a gay persons marriage is going to affect anyone elses marriage.:smile:


it is an opinion that the same species are meant to mate to the same?

A life of Homo's and the world will end. Simple fact.

Fact we are being taught to hate.

Where did that come from?


The sex crave of sex offenders. I am not saying that child rapists should not be thrown in jail and never come out.

What I am saying believe it or not the Govt. has created a villain for you to hate who most are decent people. My goodness 3% of sex offenders ever commit another crime ever!!

Thats gov sponcered Terrorism making you find equal rights for for gays and spend all your time worrying about that as they take your rights away slowly.

Thats what such a shame on all these boards is the real perverts are given rights over you who tries to raise a family. Give you a offshoot lie to think about wanting to kill as bumber stickers now say Kill all the Sex Offenders.

What if I put a banner up that said Kill all The Gays?


Would that be okay?

Apples and oranges are ferries and the Hulk.

No difference but you all are so DARN stupid you argue about rights of so called liberty yo8u never had.

Try not paying your taxes and see what happens yet Taxes have never been voted into law.

Why not?

So the loopholes for the rich can be thier.

You think we get by with things.Hell No.. They are playing us against each other as they take everyones rights away and we say HELL YEA!!!!!!

Thats equality in this great nation..Miles
happy Surprisingly I agree with several points you have made.happyYes, I agree that we never really had rights except what we have been allowed to believe we have.happyYou only have as many rights as you have money.happyIt does seem to be that way.drinkerThe rich have always run things all along.happyYes, I agree that the sex offender stuff is exagerated and sensationalized and being used to take away peoples rights.:smile: Same with the terrorism stuff.happy Yes, the gay marriage thing is probably a distraction but there are still gay people that want to get married so let them I say.:smile:Marriage is already a joke since almost everyone gets divorced nowadays anyway.:smile:



drinker I knew you would make some great points if you were challenged to elaborate, MilesdrinkerYou're a deep thinkerbigsmile


I agree I do not really care about the issue and i won't have an impact anyway.

What is in the cards has already been decided for the issue as a scapegoat for us to look the other way.

Look at the federal reserve.

Owned by us ? Noway. By the Very riches people in the country.

We hear oh the federal reserve is bringing interest rates down? Boloney.

They give a bank 1 dollar to lend and then say we will back you for you to loan out 10 dollars.

So when you hear these rich families are only getting 2 or 3% for thier money.

Think again and take it times 10. 20 to 30 %.

That is why we hear all the time stay calm we can't have a run on the banks.

Why?

1 they do not have it.


2 the federal reserve is now on the hook for the money.


Getting the picture of how our gov. runs.

Who had no problem getting a 700 Billion to 1 trillion bailouut?

Who raised hell over the autoworkers make 2 much money and it has to stop.

so 25 to 30 Billion hell is raised and we are told it is these big excutives fault and the Unions?


Boy lets get on that banwagon.. Hell Yell Go Congress!!!!

2 million FAMILIES WHO ARE GOING TO IN THE NEAR FUTURE LOSE 20 TO 40% OF THIER DISPOSABLE INCOME.

Does this hurt the rich?

No it enslaves us and we Say Hell Yea Congress You are our sUPER hERO'S WE GET SCREWED AGAIN nd Love it.

Man they should be used car salesmen.

Now back to the federal Reserve. They are who the Tax payers are bailing out. The RICH AND FAMOUS behind the scenes.

George Bush Sr is one of them.

Can you imagine that.

Only one news agency had the balls to go to the Freedom of Information Act and request the Feds accounting.

What did they find?

2 TRILLION WITH A T!!!!! Is missing.

Tjhey went and got an order for the Federal Reserve to dish over thier Finances.

Thier answer. just like Bush said. You have no control over us that is priveledged information.

Now ask yourselves as most on hear prob a;lly do not know abouut this happening back in Oct. 2008. Why do I not know about this?



Why was this not all over the media?

Answer we fight with each other so much they doo what they want in the back ground and we FREELY Bend Over and take it. Then we say oh so Gooood!!!! Shalo9m....Miles




drinker Wow, I haven't seen you get this fired up about anything in a while.happyAnd more political than usual.bigsmile

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 06/10/09 05:26 PM








i've found that when things like this are mentioned, religious people go silent and don't respond. i appreciate those all those who have responded thus far, but are there any religious folk out there who oppose gay marraige on biblical grounds who can explain to me why you insist on doing so despite the fact that biblical morals are obviously flawed by today's standard?

i promise no sarcasm or attempts at being confrontational... i just genuinely want to know the rationale... ohwell

pweez?
Lots of rationale, but the cold hard truth is bigotry.

Learned fear and loathing. People can justify anything if they work hard enough. Almost doesn't matter what the justification is, the core of it is the same.




Yes the Biblical ground is they are unnatural. The same as having your sheep,dog horse ,cow as your mate.

You are not born homosexual. It goes against nature. You are taught it by the same bigots who on here believe they are apes.

Thiers a good sex partner don't ya think. geeeeshhh
:smile: But Miles,that is just an unprovable opinion not agreed to by everyone.:smile:It may be right or it may be wrong but its an opinion.:smile:And there were cultures in the past that accepted homosexuality.:smile:The crux of the matter is that the constitution of this and most countries that have one,is equal rights to everyone, and the opinions of one group,even the majority,does not trump the rights of another group.:smile:Marriage is a goverment institution, not a religious institution, because our rights come from the goverment and not the church.:smile:And it is unlawful for the goverment to discriminate.:smile:That is what this all comes down to.:smile:And the reason I take the position on this issue that I do is that I don't see how a gay persons marriage is going to affect anyone elses marriage.:smile:


it is an opinion that the same species are meant to mate to the same?

A life of Homo's and the world will end. Simple fact.

Fact we are being taught to hate.

Where did that come from?


The sex crave of sex offenders. I am not saying that child rapists should not be thrown in jail and never come out.

What I am saying believe it or not the Govt. has created a villain for you to hate who most are decent people. My goodness 3% of sex offenders ever commit another crime ever!!

Thats gov sponcered Terrorism making you find equal rights for for gays and spend all your time worrying about that as they take your rights away slowly.

Thats what such a shame on all these boards is the real perverts are given rights over you who tries to raise a family. Give you a offshoot lie to think about wanting to kill as bumber stickers now say Kill all the Sex Offenders.

What if I put a banner up that said Kill all The Gays?


Would that be okay?

Apples and oranges are ferries and the Hulk.

No difference but you all are so DARN stupid you argue about rights of so called liberty yo8u never had.

Try not paying your taxes and see what happens yet Taxes have never been voted into law.

Why not?

So the loopholes for the rich can be thier.

You think we get by with things.Hell No.. They are playing us against each other as they take everyones rights away and we say HELL YEA!!!!!!

Thats equality in this great nation..Miles
happy Surprisingly I agree with several points you have made.happyYes, I agree that we never really had rights except what we have been allowed to believe we have.happyYou only have as many rights as you have money.happyIt does seem to be that way.drinkerThe rich have always run things all along.happyYes, I agree that the sex offender stuff is exagerated and sensationalized and being used to take away peoples rights.:smile: Same with the terrorism stuff.happy Yes, the gay marriage thing is probably a distraction but there are still gay people that want to get married so let them I say.:smile:Marriage is already a joke since almost everyone gets divorced nowadays anyway.:smile:



drinker I knew you would make some great points if you were challenged to elaborate, MilesdrinkerYou're a deep thinkerbigsmile


I agree I do not really care about the issue and i won't have an impact anyway.

What is in the cards has already been decided for the issue as a scapegoat for us to look the other way.

Look at the federal reserve.

Owned by us ? Noway. By the Very riches people in the country.

We hear oh the federal reserve is bringing interest rates down? Boloney.

They give a bank 1 dollar to lend and then say we will back you for you to loan out 10 dollars.

So when you hear these rich families are only getting 2 or 3% for thier money.

Think again and take it times 10. 20 to 30 %.

That is why we hear all the time stay calm we can't have a run on the banks.

Why?

1 they do not have it.


2 the federal reserve is now on the hook for the money.


Getting the picture of how our gov. runs.

Who had no problem getting a 700 Billion to 1 trillion bailouut?

Who raised hell over the autoworkers make 2 much money and it has to stop.

so 25 to 30 Billion hell is raised and we are told it is these big excutives fault and the Unions?


Boy lets get on that banwagon.. Hell Yell Go Congress!!!!

2 million FAMILIES WHO ARE GOING TO IN THE NEAR FUTURE LOSE 20 TO 40% OF THIER DISPOSABLE INCOME.

Does this hurt the rich?

No it enslaves us and we Say Hell Yea Congress You are our sUPER hERO'S WE GET SCREWED AGAIN nd Love it.

Man they should be used car salesmen.

Now back to the federal Reserve. They are who the Tax payers are bailing out. The RICH AND FAMOUS behind the scenes.

George Bush Sr is one of them.

Can you imagine that.

Only one news agency had the balls to go to the Freedom of Information Act and request the Feds accounting.

What did they find?

2 TRILLION WITH A T!!!!! Is missing.

Tjhey went and got an order for the Federal Reserve to dish over thier Finances.

Thier answer. just like Bush said. You have no control over us that is priveledged information.

Now ask yourselves as most on hear prob a;lly do not know abouut this happening back in Oct. 2008. Why do I not know about this?



Why was this not all over the media?

Answer we fight with each other so much they doo what they want in the back ground and we FREELY Bend Over and take it. Then we say oh so Gooood!!!! Shalo9m....Miles




drinker Wow, I haven't seen you get this fired up about anything in a while.happyAnd more political than usual.bigsmile



Thats because we are in a period of confusion.

The scriptures warn us about Evil Men in High Places Taking control over us and we are allowing it to happenn.. Blessings and Good Will MirrorMirror...Miles

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Wed 06/10/09 05:36 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 06/10/09 05:36 PM









i've found that when things like this are mentioned, religious people go silent and don't respond. i appreciate those all those who have responded thus far, but are there any religious folk out there who oppose gay marraige on biblical grounds who can explain to me why you insist on doing so despite the fact that biblical morals are obviously flawed by today's standard?

i promise no sarcasm or attempts at being confrontational... i just genuinely want to know the rationale... ohwell

pweez?
Lots of rationale, but the cold hard truth is bigotry.

Learned fear and loathing. People can justify anything if they work hard enough. Almost doesn't matter what the justification is, the core of it is the same.




Yes the Biblical ground is they are unnatural. The same as having your sheep,dog horse ,cow as your mate.

You are not born homosexual. It goes against nature. You are taught it by the same bigots who on here believe they are apes.

Thiers a good sex partner don't ya think. geeeeshhh
:smile: But Miles,that is just an unprovable opinion not agreed to by everyone.:smile:It may be right or it may be wrong but its an opinion.:smile:And there were cultures in the past that accepted homosexuality.:smile:The crux of the matter is that the constitution of this and most countries that have one,is equal rights to everyone, and the opinions of one group,even the majority,does not trump the rights of another group.:smile:Marriage is a goverment institution, not a religious institution, because our rights come from the goverment and not the church.:smile:And it is unlawful for the goverment to discriminate.:smile:That is what this all comes down to.:smile:And the reason I take the position on this issue that I do is that I don't see how a gay persons marriage is going to affect anyone elses marriage.:smile:


it is an opinion that the same species are meant to mate to the same?

A life of Homo's and the world will end. Simple fact.

Fact we are being taught to hate.

Where did that come from?


The sex crave of sex offenders. I am not saying that child rapists should not be thrown in jail and never come out.

What I am saying believe it or not the Govt. has created a villain for you to hate who most are decent people. My goodness 3% of sex offenders ever commit another crime ever!!

Thats gov sponcered Terrorism making you find equal rights for for gays and spend all your time worrying about that as they take your rights away slowly.

Thats what such a shame on all these boards is the real perverts are given rights over you who tries to raise a family. Give you a offshoot lie to think about wanting to kill as bumber stickers now say Kill all the Sex Offenders.

What if I put a banner up that said Kill all The Gays?


Would that be okay?

Apples and oranges are ferries and the Hulk.

No difference but you all are so DARN stupid you argue about rights of so called liberty yo8u never had.

Try not paying your taxes and see what happens yet Taxes have never been voted into law.

Why not?

So the loopholes for the rich can be thier.

You think we get by with things.Hell No.. They are playing us against each other as they take everyones rights away and we say HELL YEA!!!!!!

Thats equality in this great nation..Miles
happy Surprisingly I agree with several points you have made.happyYes, I agree that we never really had rights except what we have been allowed to believe we have.happyYou only have as many rights as you have money.happyIt does seem to be that way.drinkerThe rich have always run things all along.happyYes, I agree that the sex offender stuff is exagerated and sensationalized and being used to take away peoples rights.:smile: Same with the terrorism stuff.happy Yes, the gay marriage thing is probably a distraction but there are still gay people that want to get married so let them I say.:smile:Marriage is already a joke since almost everyone gets divorced nowadays anyway.:smile:



drinker I knew you would make some great points if you were challenged to elaborate, MilesdrinkerYou're a deep thinkerbigsmile


I agree I do not really care about the issue and i won't have an impact anyway.

What is in the cards has already been decided for the issue as a scapegoat for us to look the other way.

Look at the federal reserve.

Owned by us ? Noway. By the Very riches people in the country.

We hear oh the federal reserve is bringing interest rates down? Boloney.

They give a bank 1 dollar to lend and then say we will back you for you to loan out 10 dollars.

So when you hear these rich families are only getting 2 or 3% for thier money.

Think again and take it times 10. 20 to 30 %.

That is why we hear all the time stay calm we can't have a run on the banks.

Why?

1 they do not have it.


2 the federal reserve is now on the hook for the money.


Getting the picture of how our gov. runs.

Who had no problem getting a 700 Billion to 1 trillion bailouut?

Who raised hell over the autoworkers make 2 much money and it has to stop.

so 25 to 30 Billion hell is raised and we are told it is these big excutives fault and the Unions?


Boy lets get on that banwagon.. Hell Yell Go Congress!!!!

2 million FAMILIES WHO ARE GOING TO IN THE NEAR FUTURE LOSE 20 TO 40% OF THIER DISPOSABLE INCOME.

Does this hurt the rich?

No it enslaves us and we Say Hell Yea Congress You are our sUPER hERO'S WE GET SCREWED AGAIN nd Love it.

Man they should be used car salesmen.

Now back to the federal Reserve. They are who the Tax payers are bailing out. The RICH AND FAMOUS behind the scenes.

George Bush Sr is one of them.

Can you imagine that.

Only one news agency had the balls to go to the Freedom of Information Act and request the Feds accounting.

What did they find?

2 TRILLION WITH A T!!!!! Is missing.

Tjhey went and got an order for the Federal Reserve to dish over thier Finances.

Thier answer. just like Bush said. You have no control over us that is priveledged information.

Now ask yourselves as most on hear prob a;lly do not know abouut this happening back in Oct. 2008. Why do I not know about this?



Why was this not all over the media?

Answer we fight with each other so much they doo what they want in the back ground and we FREELY Bend Over and take it. Then we say oh so Gooood!!!! Shalo9m....Miles




drinker Wow, I haven't seen you get this fired up about anything in a while.happyAnd more political than usual.bigsmile



Thats because we are in a period of confusion.

The scriptures warn us about Evil Men in High Places Taking control over us and we are allowing it to happenn.. Blessings and Good Will MirrorMirror...Miles



:smile: I would say "What's new"?:smile:

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Thu 06/11/09 02:29 PM
Letting the thread Die.

I don't think so.

Someone comes on with the least bit of intelligence and you all run for the hills and hope it goes away.

Truth Hurts..Huh...Miles

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Sun 06/28/09 05:25 AM
Edited by Stephen101 on Sun 06/28/09 05:28 AM
ummm excuse me, but i left this thread because i am not interested in conspiracy theories, i'm interested in the debates surrounding the good and bad things about biblical marriage? can we continue that discussion please? Thank you...

to me, here are the positives and negatives of what biblical marriage says...

Positive
-committment
-loyalty from the one
-devotion from the special one
-encouraged to raise family in loving environment

Negative
-locked into it, no turning back, even if you find yourself unhappy in relationship
-encourages strong feelings of jealousy, encourages you to see your partner as a "posession" rather then a person

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Sun 06/28/09 07:45 PM
The bible is not an truthful document in any sense and should hold no sway over modern morals or law. Live life to the fullest and don't worry about what happens next.

After all our ancestors never worried about an afterlife.

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Mon 06/29/09 05:55 AM
how do you know that we evolved from gorillas? To be honest, gorillas are stronger and more powerful then us, we just have more intelligence with tools...the average human stands NO chance in defeated a gorilla in a brawl

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Mon 06/29/09 11:37 AM
I couldn't help to notice most of the quotes from the bible on here are from the old testament,the time before Christ there was no way other then the law to be close to god,times were very harsh in this period of scripture,but if you were to read on to the new testament you will find that we are no longer to have more than one wife,having several wives was at a time when the earth was being populated.

Also according to the new testament on marriage woman are help in a much higher regard as one of Christs greatest followers was a woman.

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Mon 06/29/09 12:13 PM

Also according to the new testament on marriage woman are help in a much higher regard as one of Christs greatest followers was a woman.


Oh you mean his wife, the whore Marry Magdalen?

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Mon 06/29/09 12:34 PM


Also according to the new testament on marriage woman are help in a much higher regard as one of Christs greatest followers was a woman.


Oh you mean his wife, the Marry Magdalen?


Heh, heh, you said "wh0res"

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Mon 06/29/09 12:49 PM
All of us have different beliefs and we should respect others beliefs as well Christ never married according to the bible,Mary Magdalene was a perfect example of gods forgiveness that Christ would except a woman as one as his followers that had once been as the bible states a harlot.

I am truly sorry for those of you who can't see the depth of gods patience and the great love he has for his children.
Yes god created the world but it was man that created the problems of this world,it has always seem funny to me how people that claim not to believe in god yet blame god for all the ills of the world,just maybe we can stop disagreeing an arguing with each other long enough and make the world a better place,you don't have to agree with a person on their beliefs but you should not insult or try to disprove their beliefs either,don't have to agree but respect others beliefs we are after all a country that has freedom of religion,that includes also if one is an atheist,I respect your views if you choose not to believe in the bible or god,I will not insult your beliefs why would you won't to insult mine.

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Mon 06/29/09 02:40 PM

All of us have different beliefs and we should respect others beliefs as well Christ never married according to the bible,Mary Magdalene was a perfect example of gods forgiveness that Christ would except a woman as one as his followers that had once been as the bible states a harlot.

I am truly sorry for those of you who can't see the depth of gods patience and the great love he has for his children.
Yes god created the world but it was man that created the problems of this world,it has always seem funny to me how people that claim not to believe in god yet blame god for all the ills of the world,just maybe we can stop disagreeing an arguing with each other long enough and make the world a better place,you don't have to agree with a person on their beliefs but you should not insult or try to disprove their beliefs either,don't have to agree but respect others beliefs we are after all a country that has freedom of religion,that includes also if one is an atheist,I respect your views if you choose not to believe in the bible or god,I will not insult your beliefs why would you won't to insult mine.


This is the same god of the OT or is he different one? Cuz the god I know of from the OT is one evil a55hole. How many people died because of it? I believe some tallied it to over a million people who directly by the hand of god or via one the Israelites under direct instruction form god.