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Topic: 'Gay' groups: We have rights to your children!
MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 05/05/09 02:58 PM
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Foliel's photo
Tue 05/05/09 03:38 PM
I thought the topic was about the parental rights in regards to what a child will or wont be taugt in school huh

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/05/09 03:40 PM
laugh it is....it got derailed by someone i guess

DaveyB's photo
Tue 05/05/09 05:03 PM

laugh it is....it got derailed by someone i guess


That would seem to be the case.

catwoman96's photo
Tue 05/05/09 05:11 PM
wasnt me, i swear.

lulu24's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:14 AM


ya i got a paper that I signed in order for my daughter to get sex education at school..


and yes i signed it ans she attended. and NO they didnt talk about homosexuality at all.

thats fine, your right its the parents choice.

but this is a very sex motivated society that we live in. clthes. tv. radio. friends. let alone natural hormones. I choose to have any informed child rather than a misinformed or uninformed child




That depends on the definition of what is informed, and what is disinformed, and what is uninformed.

Myself?
Id tell the truth!

Homosexuality is unnatural and its a personal choice!

Let's keep our personal opinions about values out of public schools.


homosexuality is completely natural and is most often NOT personal choice.

homosexuality occurs in nature. there are animals that mate with in same-sex pairs for life. therefore, homosexuality IS natural.

they have shown that the brain of a gay male is different in structure than the brain of a hetero one. this shows that, at least in men, it's NOT just a "choice". it's how they were "naturally" made.

that said, i'm not sure what the big fuss is...there's a big difference between a school going into sexual details about a same-sex couple and just letting the kids know that some children have "two mommies".

willing2's photo
Wed 05/06/09 09:51 AM
The last I had kids in school, they were only teaching about reproduction and the parts of the body. Then, I learned the teaching was about safe sex between men and women. The reproduction parts were pretty explicit, showing how vaginal penetration occurs and what sperm does once released.

Now, I hear they are teaching kids that men sex men and women sex women.

I'm pretty sure, to kids past the sixth grade homosexuality isn't news.

Are they teaching them everything? How to have safe anal and oral sex? How a man should penetrate a man without tearing him? How two women manage to sex each other?

Where or is there a line? Are they teaching them all or just saying gays exist?


no photo
Wed 05/06/09 12:02 PM

The last I had kids in school, they were only teaching about reproduction and the parts of the body. Then, I learned the teaching was about safe sex between men and women. The reproduction parts were pretty explicit, showing how vaginal penetration occurs and what sperm does once released.

Now, I hear they are teaching kids that men sex men and women sex women.

I'm pretty sure, to kids past the sixth grade homosexuality isn't news.

Are they teaching them everything? How to have safe anal and oral sex? How a man should penetrate a man without tearing him? How two women manage to sex each other?

Where or is there a line? Are they teaching them all or just saying gays exist?




The line for me as a gay woman is at details, until they are old enough to comprehend what it all means and even then most detail isn't nessessary to explain sexuality. Personally I think if we teach respect of anothers bodily space and respect in general we needn't go into detail. As someone else say showing kids that two mommy's or two Daddy's isn't detail.

I don't know were you are getting your facts from Willing, but I never hear of any classes where that is taught to children.

People make this huge fuss about anal sex, yet it's not just gays having anal sex ya know. I would think if you are going to discuss it, it should be how to do it safely. Personally I don't like anal sex, but won't judge those that do. Heck I don't even think anal sex goes on in nature, does it? I find that too difficult to accomplish safely, but I am no expert. Still growing up christian i am still a bit proodish though not judgemental.

I think there are enough safe sexual practices that young people can engage in that can give them a good idea who they might be willing to spend a life time with, with out going into ful intercourse. If experimenting before marriage has an value which I think it does, I think it can be done safely and still give you a good idea who your marrying from that point of view.

In my youth when I thought sex was expected of me, and in that day, we didn't have to worry as much about disease, today it's a major factor and it's irresponsible to let out children face adulthood unarmed. Kids are having sex at ever younger ages, to me that is sad especially when they have no clue how to be protective much less responsible.

willing2's photo
Wed 05/06/09 12:18 PM
Edited by willing2 on Wed 05/06/09 12:19 PM


The last I had kids in school, they were only teaching about reproduction and the parts of the body. Then, I learned the teaching was about safe sex between men and women. The reproduction parts were pretty explicit, showing how vaginal penetration occurs and what sperm does once released.

Now, I hear they are teaching kids that men sex men and women sex women.

I'm pretty sure, to kids past the sixth grade homosexuality isn't news.

Are they teaching them everything? How to have safe anal and oral sex? How a man should penetrate a man without tearing him? How two women manage to sex each other?

Where or is there a line? Are they teaching them all or just saying gays exist?




The line for me as a gay woman is at details, until they are old enough to comprehend what it all means and even then most detail isn't nessessary to explain sexuality. Personally I think if we teach respect of anothers bodily space and respect in general we needn't go into detail. As someone else say showing kids that two mommy's or two Daddy's isn't detail.

I don't know were you are getting your facts from Willing, but I never hear of any classes where that is taught to children.

People make this huge fuss about anal sex, yet it's not just gays having anal sex ya know. I would think if you are going to discuss it, it should be how to do it safely. Personally I don't like anal sex, but won't judge those that do. Heck I don't even think anal sex goes on in nature, does it? I find that too difficult to accomplish safely, but I am no expert. Still growing up christian i am still a bit proodish though not judgemental.

I think there are enough safe sexual practices that young people can engage in that can give them a good idea who they might be willing to spend a life time with, with out going into ful intercourse. If experimenting before marriage has an value which I think it does, I think it can be done safely and still give you a good idea who your marrying from that point of view.

In my youth when I thought sex was expected of me, and in that day, we didn't have to worry as much about disease, today it's a major factor and it's irresponsible to let out children face adulthood unarmed. Kids are having sex at ever younger ages, to me that is sad especially when they have no clue how to be protective much less responsible.

I was asking "if", they were teaching about sex between Gay couples like they teach about reproductive sex.

Kinda' naive to think Gay men don't have anal sex. If they are going to be fair and equal, kids should be taught, age appropriate, all of what happens between straight and gays. Then, they will be very informed.

Fair is fair. Equal should be equal.

lulu24's photo
Wed 05/06/09 12:19 PM
hey, boo...did you know that giraffes have anal sex?

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20775612-28737,00.html

http://www.learnanimals.com/giraffe/

willing2's photo
Wed 05/06/09 12:22 PM

Sure glad I ain't no giraffe!!laugh laugh

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/06/09 01:35 PM



ya i got a paper that I signed in order for my daughter to get sex education at school..


and yes i signed it ans she attended. and NO they didnt talk about homosexuality at all.

thats fine, your right its the parents choice.

but this is a very sex motivated society that we live in. clthes. tv. radio. friends. let alone natural hormones. I choose to have any informed child rather than a misinformed or uninformed child




That depends on the definition of what is informed, and what is disinformed, and what is uninformed.

Myself?
Id tell the truth!

Homosexuality is unnatural and its a personal choice!

Let's keep our personal opinions about values out of public schools.


homosexuality is completely natural and is most often NOT personal choice.

homosexuality occurs in nature. there are animals that mate with in same-sex pairs for life. therefore, homosexuality IS natural.

they have shown that the brain of a gay male is different in structure than the brain of a hetero one. this shows that, at least in men, it's NOT just a "choice". it's how they were "naturally" made.

that said, i'm not sure what the big fuss is...there's a big difference between a school going into sexual details about a same-sex couple and just letting the kids know that some children have "two mommies".


Wrong!

There is no evidence that homosexuality is natural.

While the GLBT has paid for research that makes that claim, no one else has ever been able to duplicate their conclusion.

Also, Interviews with Homosexuals have shown that less than 10% even make the claim the born that way.
Most agree they chose the lifestyle and the majority of those state they were first introduced to the lifestyle by older adults while they themselves were children!

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 02:22 PM




ya i got a paper that I signed in order for my daughter to get sex education at school..


and yes i signed it ans she attended. and NO they didnt talk about homosexuality at all.

thats fine, your right its the parents choice.

but this is a very sex motivated society that we live in. clthes. tv. radio. friends. let alone natural hormones. I choose to have any informed child rather than a misinformed or uninformed child



That depends on the definition of what is informed, and what is disinformed, and what is uninformed.

Myself?
Id tell the truth!

Homosexuality is unnatural and its a personal choice!

Let's keep our personal opinions about values out of public schools.


homosexuality is completely natural and is most often NOT personal choice.

homosexuality occurs in nature. there are animals that mate with in same-sex pairs for life. therefore, homosexuality IS natural.

they have shown that the brain of a gay male is different in structure than the brain of a hetero one. this shows that, at least in men, it's NOT just a "choice". it's how they were "naturally" made.

that said, i'm not sure what the big fuss is...there's a big difference between a school going into sexual details about a same-sex couple and just letting the kids know that some children have "two mommies".


Wrong!

There is no evidence that homosexuality is natural.

While the GLBT has paid for research that makes that claim, no one else has ever been able to duplicate their conclusion.

Also, Interviews with Homosexuals have shown that less than 10% even make the claim the born that way.
Most agree they chose the lifestyle and the majority of those state they were first introduced to the lifestyle by older adults while they themselves were children!


She's right. I've read those studies too.:wink:

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/06/09 02:31 PM
regardless of proof or lack of....as with any sex ed classes and elective classes...the parents should have the right to make a choice

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 02:34 PM


That's educational!

lulu24's photo
Wed 05/06/09 03:01 PM




ya i got a paper that I signed in order for my daughter to get sex education at school..


and yes i signed it ans she attended. and NO they didnt talk about homosexuality at all.

thats fine, your right its the parents choice.

but this is a very sex motivated society that we live in. clthes. tv. radio. friends. let alone natural hormones. I choose to have any informed child rather than a misinformed or uninformed child




That depends on the definition of what is informed, and what is disinformed, and what is uninformed.

Myself?
Id tell the truth!

Homosexuality is unnatural and its a personal choice!

Let's keep our personal opinions about values out of public schools.


homosexuality is completely natural and is most often NOT personal choice.

homosexuality occurs in nature. there are animals that mate with in same-sex pairs for life. therefore, homosexuality IS natural.

they have shown that the brain of a gay male is different in structure than the brain of a hetero one. this shows that, at least in men, it's NOT just a "choice". it's how they were "naturally" made.

that said, i'm not sure what the big fuss is...there's a big difference between a school going into sexual details about a same-sex couple and just letting the kids know that some children have "two mommies".


Wrong!

There is no evidence that homosexuality is natural.

While the GLBT has paid for research that makes that claim, no one else has ever been able to duplicate their conclusion.

Also, Interviews with Homosexuals have shown that less than 10% even make the claim the born that way.
Most agree they chose the lifestyle and the majority of those state they were first introduced to the lifestyle by older adults while they themselves were children!


natural, as in "occurs in nature".

mankind is hardly the only species that mates with the same sex. they've shown the brains of male humans who happen to be gay to be different than the brains of straight males. they've done the same with rams.

i've been pretty heavily immersed in the gay "scene", and i have tons of gay friends. the majority say that they were that way when they were kids...

while there are those who are confused after sexual abuse, it's NOT the majority. i've never once met a gay person that "chose" to be that way.

who would choose to be ostracized, beaten, spit-upon, and all-around treated like trash?
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as to the original topic, what's so harmful about a book that shows that there are different family structures?

my daughter brought home a similar one...it was simple, showing things like "ben lives with his grandmother" and "jane lives with her mom and dad" and "sam has two moms".

totally harmless, and it helps to make children more aware of the diversity that's surrounding us.

norslyman's photo
Wed 05/06/09 04:16 PM
Here's a good article about the "diversity" of diseases you can get from this lifestyle. laugh

Now what is more important. Somebodies feelings, or public health? sick

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IT’S TIME FOR TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH

CONSIDER:

Dr. Judith Reisman, expert witness before the attorney general’s commission on pornography and veteran researcher has found contrary to the popular view that there is little crossover between homosexuality and pedophilia, she says homosexuals are anxious to recruit young boys--a practice that is becoming easier than to sex education and “diversity programs” in schools that teach children to consider homosexuality as both acceptable and normal.

NO pedophile has the right to seduce or enslave a child for sexual pleasure!

As early as 1997 the International Epidemiological Association concluded that homosexual and bisexual lifestyle expectancy was 8 to 20 years less than all men and if this mortality continues, half of homosexual and bisexual men now age 20 will not reach the age of 65.

According to the highly respected conservative Family Research Council from “sifting of evidence from four separate databases support the conclusion that homosexual activities may shorten the person’s life span by as much as 30%” In addition...”Median age of death for homosexuals was 45, with only 2% surviving past 65 [while the median age of the ‘normal’ population was over 70 with more than 60% living past 65].” Further, “Causes of early death included murder, accidents, and drug abuse, but primarily sexually transmitted diseases [STDs}. Homosexuals were 116 times more apt to be murdered, 24 times more likely to commit suicide, 18 times more likely to die in traffic accidents.”

The Journal of the American Medical Association reported:

50 percent of male AIDS victims reported having sex with an adult male by the age of 16.
20 percent of male AIDS victims had sex with an adult male by age 10.
NO medical professional can ethically avoid warning our youth of these deadly lifestyle dangers. Medical representatives should be in day care centers and grade schools presenting warnings of these lethal lifestyle choices. This should be a lesson discussed with children at annual physical time.

In 1991 the Occupational Safety and Health Administration enacted rules designed to protect health care personnel from the spread of blood-borne pathogens such as HIV and Hepatitis. Employers were forced, by law, subject to jail and/or fines, to educate their employees to prevent transmission and likely premature death.

Homosexuality is a lie, otherwise homosexuals would not be dying!

Where is OSHA in the classroom and day care? Don’t our children count? Are they old enough to know about condom use but not pain, suffering and premature death? Or are pedophiles “feelings” and behavior acceptance more important than the health of our youth to our society?

NO elected or appointed legislative body has the right to enact laws that provide those performing deviant sex practices the status of a special minority class, with special insurance and workplace benefits. What will be the next special class, those who have sex with animals or the dead. Where will it end? It’s the responsibility of your congressmen to keep laws for family protection (such as male/female marriage) and get tougher with new legislation against the threats to child welfare by the homosexual lethal lifestyle.

When the homosexual lifestyle is taught, it must be the whole truth with explanation and pictures of diseases, suffering and premature death of those who go there. Half truths, obfuscation and cover-up are lies as we see in Suffer the Children. [click here for more on the video Suffer the Children]

NO teacher or instructor in day care or grade school, in a position of parental trust, has the right to introduce propaganda or homosexual tolerance or acceptance without the full picture of this lethal lifestyle and obviously not without the parents knowledge.

The Family Policy Network produced a list of diseases contacted and spread through the lethal lifestyle of homosexuality. These include, but are not limited to, the following:

1.Pubic lice
2.Scabies (mites)
3.Fungal infections
4.Oral gonorrhea
5.Oral lesions from herpes, HPV (warts), chancroid, lymhogranuloma venereum, or granuloma inguinale.
6.Nongonolococcal pharyngitis from chlamydia, other STD’s
7.Syphilis
8.Enteric (intestinal) infections
9.Traumatic proctitis
10.Rectal gonorrhea
11.Anal warts
12.HIV/AIDS*
13.Nonspecific procitis (from chlamydia and other STDs)
14.Anorectal herpes
15.Anorectal syphilis
16.Rectal trichomoniasis
17.Lymphogranuloma venereum
18.Anorectal granuloma inguinale
19.Anorectal chancroid
20.Cytomegalovirus
21.Anorectal candidiasis
22.Physical abrasions
23.Bites
24.Herpes
25.Urethritis from various STDs
26.Nongonococcal urethritis
27.Genital herpes
28.Molluscum contagiosum
29.Genital warts
30.Trichomoniasins
31.Epididymitis and/or proctitis
32.Granuloma inguinale
33.Chancroid
34.Shigellosis
35.Campylobacter fetus (bacteria)
36.Enterogenic E. coli bacteria
37.Hepatitis (A, B, and others)
38.Amebiasis
39.Giardiasis
40.Salmonellosis
41.Enterobius vemicularis (parasite)
42.Oral warts

As these diseases become resistant to medication, mutations and permutations occur. To keep the human body fighting to resist the spread of further illness the immune system breaks down and premature death results.

*15,000 new cases of HIV/AIDS alone are reported daily in the world. Will one be a son, daughter, grandson or granddaughter?

The Boy Scouts of America were victorious in the Supreme Court of the United States against the frontal assault by the homosexuals. This was a grand outcome for morality and the right of a private association to select its leaders. Now the struggle for the minds and bodies of our youth is on fast track in the school systems as professionally developed videos target school students, teachers bring homosexuals to classes to promote their agenda and the truth is twisted to favor the homosexual agenda.


Foliel's photo
Wed 05/06/09 04:21 PM
Then i must be in that less than 10% cuz i did not ask to be gay but i am. No one introduced me to it, I did not choose to be gay...i chose to not live my life as a lie and ruin the lives of others because of it. Any idea how hard it is for a woman to find out that the man she loves and married is actually gay? It's usually devestating.

While it may not seem natural to some poeple it seems completely natural to me. But for those of you who want to live in the fantasy world where things like this do not occur, be my guest.

When I had sex ed we didn't go into detail about how it was done lol, they mostly talked about puberty and the fact that our bodies will start to produce semen, we didn't discuss actual intercourse...my mom would have had a heart attack lol.

no photo
Wed 05/06/09 04:23 PM
"22.Physical abrasions "

only if you do it in the road

just about all those ailments are not specific to homosexuality

fer instance you can get crabs from hetero sex too

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 04:27 PM

1.Pubic lice
2.Scabies (mites)
3.Fungal infections
4.Oral gonorrhea
5.Oral lesions from herpes, HPV (warts), chancroid, lymhogranuloma venereum, or granuloma inguinale.
6.Nongonolococcal pharyngitis from chlamydia, other STD’s
7.Syphilis
8.Enteric (intestinal) infections
9.Traumatic proctitis
10.Rectal gonorrhea
11.Anal warts
12.HIV/AIDS*
13.Nonspecific procitis (from chlamydia and other STDs)
14.Anorectal herpes
15.Anorectal syphilis
16.Rectal trichomoniasis
17.Lymphogranuloma venereum
18.Anorectal granuloma inguinale
19.Anorectal chancroid
20.Cytomegalovirus
21.Anorectal candidiasis
22.Physical abrasions
23.Bites
24.Herpes
25.Urethritis from various STDs
26.Nongonococcal urethritis
27.Genital herpes
28.Molluscum contagiosum
29.Genital warts
30.Trichomoniasins
31.Epididymitis and/or proctitis
32.Granuloma inguinale
33.Chancroid
34.Shigellosis
35.Campylobacter fetus (bacteria)
36.Enterogenic E. coli bacteria
37.Hepatitis (A, B, and others)
38.Amebiasis
39.Giardiasis
40.Salmonellosis
41.Enterobius vemicularis (parasite)
42.Oral warts



Imagine that. They can get the same diseases as straight people.

Lice and scabies. Too funny. Children at school get lice. You can get scabies from sitting on a chair in shorts and the previous person had it. Bites? laugh Yep, little kids do that too.

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