Topic: 'Gay' groups: We have rights to your children!
Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/13/09 01:54 PM




Do a quick google, there's plenty of video evidence, pretty hard to deny. (I can't believe they allow that stuff to appear in the google search engine . ) Plenty of studies out there that show homosexuality is a common response to over crowding as well. I don't personally believe that would be the only cause but I can see how nature might do that as a means of population control.



Show me one time there was accidental penetration and I'll show you a dog fight! laugh laugh laugh laugh


You know I'd post links for you but I think I'd get banned laugh. However here's a link I think I can get away with, (no picture or anything like that). I apologize if anyone is offended, but facts are facts.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html


That article really doesn't say anything.

Where's the video?




Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/13/09 01:55 PM
I'll look myself Davey.
I'll let you know what I find!noway noway

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/13/09 01:56 PM

<~~ I know Fanta is rarely amazed and amused laugh


laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 05/13/09 01:59 PM



gotta give you credit you're like a Timex

same can be said for any homosexual/hetero couples - no one knows what goes on in their homes, where the wife/husband is abused? where there is drug use? where the children are being abused?


But they are able to propagate naturally!


so can gay women if they so choose.


There is nothing natural about homosexuality!


If it's unnatural then why does it occur though-out nature?


It doesnt!


Homosexual behavior in animals refers to the documented evidence of homosexual, bisexual and transgender behavior in non-human animals. Such behaviors include sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, and parenting. Homosexual and bisexual behavior are widespread in the animal kingdom: a 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.[2][3] Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species. The motivations for and implications of these behaviors have yet to be fully understood, since most species have yet to be fully studied.[4] According to Bagemihl, "the animal kingdom [does] it with much greater sexual diversity -- including homosexual, bisexual and nonreproductive sex -- than the scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept."[5]

The natural existence of homosexuality in non-human animals is considered controversial by conservative religious groups who oppose LGBT social movements because these findings seem to point to the natural occurrence of homosexuality in humans.[1] It also counters the 'peccatum contra naturam' ('sin against nature') - after Thomas Aquinas - established since the Medieval Christianities.[6] Whether this has logical or ethical implications is also a source of debate, with some arguing that it is illogical to use animal behavior to justify what is or is not moral (see appeal to nature).[1][7][8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The rest of the article is interesting as well, but I suspect you will call it propoganda.

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Wed 05/13/09 02:00 PM




<----knows davey did research just now and found things on youtube



Show me one time there was actual accidental penetration and I'll show you a dog fight shortly after!


lol I don't think it was accidental at all


it's so common amongst some animals that I can guarantee it's not accidental.

50% of male giraffes!!!
http://www.learnanimals.com/giraffe/


Homosexual courtship between two males is actually quite common in giraffes. Necking can be observed first, with both male giraffes rubbing their necks together. This will obviously lead to both mounting and climax. Homosexual relationships occur with about 50% of all male giraffes, while only 1% of female giraffes engage in same sex relations.

Still!
No Penetration,laugh and we definitly arent giraffs!

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Wed 05/13/09 02:00 PM





Do a quick google, there's plenty of video evidence, pretty hard to deny. (I can't believe they allow that stuff to appear in the google search engine . ) Plenty of studies out there that show homosexuality is a common response to over crowding as well. I don't personally believe that would be the only cause but I can see how nature might do that as a means of population control.



Show me one time there was accidental penetration and I'll show you a dog fight! laugh laugh laugh laugh


You know I'd post links for you but I think I'd get banned laugh. However here's a link I think I can get away with, (no picture or anything like that). I apologize if anyone is offended, but facts are facts.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html


That article really doesn't say anything.

Where's the video?


Can't post video if I want to stay a member here laugh... hmm is that your plan get me banned so you don't have to argue this point laugh

anyway... from the artical...

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Wild birds exhibit similar behavior. There are male ostriches that only court their own gender, and pairs of male flamingos that mate, build nests, and even raise foster chicks.
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How much more do you need? Even gays raising foster chicks!!! And there's plenty more in the article. But if you need video proof there's plenty out there.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/13/09 02:02 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Wed 05/13/09 02:04 PM




gotta give you credit you're like a Timex

same can be said for any homosexual/hetero couples - no one knows what goes on in their homes, where the wife/husband is abused? where there is drug use? where the children are being abused?


But they are able to propagate naturally!


so can gay women if they so choose.


There is nothing natural about homosexuality!


If it's unnatural then why does it occur though-out nature?


It doesnt!


Homosexual behavior in animals refers to the documented evidence of homosexual, bisexual and transgender behavior in non-human animals. Such behaviors include sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, and parenting. Homosexual and bisexual behavior are widespread in the animal kingdom: a 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.[2][3] Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species. The motivations for and implications of these behaviors have yet to be fully understood, since most species have yet to be fully studied.[4] According to Bagemihl, "the animal kingdom [does] it with much greater sexual diversity -- including homosexual, bisexual and nonreproductive sex -- than the scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept."[5]

The natural existence of homosexuality in non-human animals is considered controversial by conservative religious groups who oppose LGBT social movements because these findings seem to point to the natural occurrence of homosexuality in humans.[1] It also counters the 'peccatum contra naturam' ('sin against nature') - after Thomas Aquinas - established since the Medieval Christianities.[6] Whether this has logical or ethical implications is also a source of debate, with some arguing that it is illogical to use animal behavior to justify what is or is not moral (see appeal to nature).[1][7][8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The rest of the article is interesting as well, but I suspect you will call it propoganda.


Nope!

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/what-causes-homosexual-desire-and-can-it-be-changed/

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/13/09 02:02 PM






Do a quick google, there's plenty of video evidence, pretty hard to deny. (I can't believe they allow that stuff to appear in the google search engine . ) Plenty of studies out there that show homosexuality is a common response to over crowding as well. I don't personally believe that would be the only cause but I can see how nature might do that as a means of population control.



Show me one time there was accidental penetration and I'll show you a dog fight! laugh laugh laugh laugh


You know I'd post links for you but I think I'd get banned laugh. However here's a link I think I can get away with, (no picture or anything like that). I apologize if anyone is offended, but facts are facts.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html


That article really doesn't say anything.

Where's the video?


Can't post video if I want to stay a member here laugh... hmm is that your plan get me banned so you don't have to argue this point laugh

anyway... from the artical...

----------------------------
Wild birds exhibit similar behavior. There are male ostriches that only court their own gender, and pairs of male flamingos that mate, build nests, and even raise foster chicks.
-----------------------------

How much more do you need? Even gays raising foster chicks!!! And there's plenty more in the article. But if you need video proof there's plenty out there.


Send it to my email!laugh laugh

DaveyB's photo
Wed 05/13/09 02:03 PM





<----knows davey did research just now and found things on youtube



Show me one time there was actual accidental penetration and I'll show you a dog fight shortly after!


lol I don't think it was accidental at all


it's so common amongst some animals that I can guarantee it's not accidental.

50% of male giraffes!!!
http://www.learnanimals.com/giraffe/


Homosexual courtship between two males is actually quite common in giraffes. Necking can be observed first, with both male giraffes rubbing their necks together. This will obviously lead to both mounting and climax. Homosexual relationships occur with about 50% of all male giraffes, while only 1% of female giraffes engage in same sex relations.

Still!
No Penetration,laugh and we definitly arent giraffs!


Guess again, read that article a bit more carefully it states specifically that mounting DOES occur.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/13/09 02:06 PM
Mounting is not penetration!
Humping isnt penetration.
Courting isnt penetration.


Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/13/09 02:09 PM
1) No researcher has found provable biological or genitic differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals that weren’t caused by their behavior
Occasionally you may read about a scientific study that suggests that homosexuality is an inherited tendency, but such studies have usually been discounted after careful scrutiny or attempts at replication. No one has found a single heredible genetic, hormonal or physical difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals - at least none that is replicable. While the absence of such a discovery doesn’t prove at inherited sexual tendencies aren’t possible, it suggests that none has been found because none exists.


http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/what-causes-homosexual-desire-and-can-it-be-changed/

DaveyB's photo
Wed 05/13/09 02:13 PM

Mounting is not penetration!


That one could be argued but I do know it has been used to refer to non-penetrating sex so here...

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20775612-28737,00.html

Again video does exist but I'm not posting it here. If you need that much proof you'll have to find it yourself.

DaveyB's photo
Wed 05/13/09 02:19 PM

1) No researcher has found provable biological or genitic differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals that weren’t caused by their behavior
Occasionally you may read about a scientific study that suggests that homosexuality is an inherited tendency, but such studies have usually been discounted after careful scrutiny or attempts at replication. No one has found a single heredible genetic, hormonal or physical difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals - at least none that is replicable. While the absence of such a discovery doesn’t prove at inherited sexual tendencies aren’t possible, it suggests that none has been found because none exists.


http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/what-causes-homosexual-desire-and-can-it-be-changed/


Um FRI has an anti-gay agenda. Their finding are rather dubious and contradict most other sources.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/13/09 02:21 PM
I'll find it!
If it exists I'll find it.

Ive lived around animals my whole life, and while there's no doubting "The mount" happens, the only time I have actually seen accidental penetration. It was immediately followed
a fight!

I could tell there was penetration by the yelp immediately preceding the fight.


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Wed 05/13/09 02:26 PM

I wouldnt care if you were.

I just believe what I believe and I dont mind openly discussing my view.
drinker


We know you need to be right, Fanta, but you are clearly wrong on this one. But living in NC I see where you get your information. Must be hard on NC folks that so many gays live in that state.

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Wed 05/13/09 02:28 PM


1) No researcher has found provable biological or genitic differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals that weren’t caused by their behavior
Occasionally you may read about a scientific study that suggests that homosexuality is an inherited tendency, but such studies have usually been discounted after careful scrutiny or attempts at replication. No one has found a single heredible genetic, hormonal or physical difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals - at least none that is replicable. While the absence of such a discovery doesn’t prove at inherited sexual tendencies aren’t possible, it suggests that none has been found because none exists.


http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/what-causes-homosexual-desire-and-can-it-be-changed/


Um FRI has an anti-gay agenda. Their finding are rather dubious and contradict most other sources.


About FRI:

FRI Scientists
Dr. Paul Cameron, Chairman, is a frequent lecturer and author of over 90 scientific articles and five books, including The Gay Nineties and Exposing the AIDS Scandal. Dr. Cameron earned his doctorate in Psychology from the University of Colorado and was a university professor at the University of Louisville, the University of Nebraska, and Fuller Theological Seminary before becoming Chairman of FRI.

Nominated in 1985 by national gay magazine The Advocate as “the most dangerous man in America,” he has served as a medical and social-psychological expert in numerous court cases across the country, including dozens of child custody cases involving a homosexual parent. Dr. Cameron is a reviewer on homosexual submissions for the British Medical Journal (among the top 5 general science journals in the world), and is also a reviewer for Psychological Reports and the Journal of the Canadian Medical Association. According to the National Library of Medicine and its online compilation of published medical and psychological research (PubMed), he is listed as one of the top ten researchers in the world on homosexuality in terms of number of published citations.

As the man every homosexual ‘loves to hate,’ critics of Dr. Cameron are numerous. In 2005, The Advocate once again listed him as one of it’s most loathed, this time as ‘public enemy #2.’ Further, numerous charges have been lodged over the years that Dr. Cameron’s scientific work has been either unethical or that he has engaged in scientific misconduct. A careful review of the facts shows quite the opposite.

Dr. Kirk Cameron, Statistical Scientist and FRI Board Member, has served as a lecturer and researcher for FRI since 1983. He earned his doctorate in Statistics at Stanford University and helped conduct and analyze FRI’s nationwide sexuality survey. Dr. Cameron has spoken at college campuses, churches, and political conferences, and has appeared on C-SPAN.

He has written more than twenty scientific articles on FRI’s survey findings, AIDS, and homosexuality, and has authored or co-authored almost 60 professional articles, technical reports, books, and government guidance documents in total, including Right or Wrong? Should the Boy Scouts Exclude Homosexuals? According to PubMed, Dr. Cameron currently ranks among the top fifteen researchers in the world on the topic of homosexuality. He also does extensive statistical research and consulting in other areas, including environmental and biomedical applications.

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/about-2/

DaveyB's photo
Wed 05/13/09 02:30 PM

I'll find it!
If it exists I'll find it.

Ive lived around animals my whole life, and while there's no doubting "The mount" happens, the only time I have actually seen accidental penetration. It was immediately followed
a fight!

I could tell there was penetration by the yelp immediately preceding the fight.


Ok sent you a link for a pic see if you can explain that one away.

DaveyB's photo
Wed 05/13/09 02:35 PM



1) No researcher has found provable biological or genitic differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals that weren’t caused by their behavior
Occasionally you may read about a scientific study that suggests that homosexuality is an inherited tendency, but such studies have usually been discounted after careful scrutiny or attempts at replication. No one has found a single heredible genetic, hormonal or physical difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals - at least none that is replicable. While the absence of such a discovery doesn’t prove at inherited sexual tendencies aren’t possible, it suggests that none has been found because none exists.


http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/what-causes-homosexual-desire-and-can-it-be-changed/


Um FRI has an anti-gay agenda. Their finding are rather dubious and contradict most other sources.


About FRI:

FRI Scientists
Dr. Paul Cameron, Chairman, is a frequent lecturer and author of over 90 scientific articles and five books, including The Gay Nineties and Exposing the AIDS Scandal. Dr. Cameron earned his doctorate in Psychology from the University of Colorado and was a university professor at the University of Louisville, the University of Nebraska, and Fuller Theological Seminary before becoming Chairman of FRI.

Nominated in 1985 by national gay magazine The Advocate as “the most dangerous man in America,” he has served as a medical and social-psychological expert in numerous court cases across the country, including dozens of child custody cases involving a homosexual parent. Dr. Cameron is a reviewer on homosexual submissions for the British Medical Journal (among the top 5 general science journals in the world), and is also a reviewer for Psychological Reports and the Journal of the Canadian Medical Association. According to the National Library of Medicine and its online compilation of published medical and psychological research (PubMed), he is listed as one of the top ten researchers in the world on homosexuality in terms of number of published citations.

As the man every homosexual ‘loves to hate,’ critics of Dr. Cameron are numerous. In 2005, The Advocate once again listed him as one of it’s most loathed, this time as ‘public enemy #2.’ Further, numerous charges have been lodged over the years that Dr. Cameron’s scientific work has been either unethical or that he has engaged in scientific misconduct. A careful review of the facts shows quite the opposite.

Dr. Kirk Cameron, Statistical Scientist and FRI Board Member, has served as a lecturer and researcher for FRI since 1983. He earned his doctorate in Statistics at Stanford University and helped conduct and analyze FRI’s nationwide sexuality survey. Dr. Cameron has spoken at college campuses, churches, and political conferences, and has appeared on C-SPAN.

He has written more than twenty scientific articles on FRI’s survey findings, AIDS, and homosexuality, and has authored or co-authored almost 60 professional articles, technical reports, books, and government guidance documents in total, including Right or Wrong? Should the Boy Scouts Exclude Homosexuals? According to PubMed, Dr. Cameron currently ranks among the top fifteen researchers in the world on the topic of homosexuality. He also does extensive statistical research and consulting in other areas, including environmental and biomedical applications.

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/about-2/


Yeah I read it. Along with their own anti-gay admition in their "about" page I found several other references to it.

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Wed 05/13/09 02:36 PM





gotta give you credit you're like a Timex

same can be said for any homosexual/hetero couples - no one knows what goes on in their homes, where the wife/husband is abused? where there is drug use? where the children are being abused?


But they are able to propagate naturally!


so can gay women if they so choose.


There is nothing natural about homosexuality!


If it's unnatural then why does it occur though-out nature?


It doesnt!


Homosexual behavior in animals refers to the documented evidence of homosexual, bisexual and transgender behavior in non-human animals. Such behaviors include sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, and parenting. Homosexual and bisexual behavior are widespread in the animal kingdom: a 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.[2][3] Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species. The motivations for and implications of these behaviors have yet to be fully understood, since most species have yet to be fully studied.[4] According to Bagemihl, "the animal kingdom [does] it with much greater sexual diversity -- including homosexual, bisexual and nonreproductive sex -- than the scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept."[5]

The natural existence of homosexuality in non-human animals is considered controversial by conservative religious groups who oppose LGBT social movements because these findings seem to point to the natural occurrence of homosexuality in humans.[1] It also counters the 'peccatum contra naturam' ('sin against nature') - after Thomas Aquinas - established since the Medieval Christianities.[6] Whether this has logical or ethical implications is also a source of debate, with some arguing that it is illogical to use animal behavior to justify what is or is not moral (see appeal to nature).[1][7][8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The rest of the article is interesting as well, but I suspect you will call it propoganda.


Nope!

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/what-causes-homosexual-desire-and-can-it-be-changed/


You are a great spokesperson for family research, they don't much care for fact either and are antigay, have known their views as long as I have been an adult.

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Wed 05/13/09 02:38 PM