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Topic: 'Gay' groups: We have rights to your children!
catwoman96's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:45 AM


point is it wasnt SCHOOL that my kid learned this stuff. It was through TV. and her friends. I live in one of the top school districts in my area. I do not live in a (ima say this) white trash neighborhood.

omg seriously young teenagers are very smart and hip to the world around them nowadays.

unless one completly sheltser them from how things they WILL confront in this world at somepoint anyday. (which i assume this will be a rude awakening when they do learn whats out there in the world) I choose to talk openly with my child about drugs and sex. and pray. and triple cross my fingers.


btw..the trisexuality thing was that my daughter had a friend whose mother (or step mother) bought those big great dane dogs to have sex with. sick


Yikes! She should get the mother-of-the-year award.noway


I know...i know. I was of course sickened at this (and so was she) I think I was more sickened that she knew something about sex that I didnt.
trisexualitynoway noway

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:46 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 05/05/09 11:54 AM



When I was a kid, I barely know what homosexuality or bisexuality was.

as an adult, I see it a whole lot.

and my daughter does to. She even has friends that are gay. A lil boy down the road who is 13 is gay. she was the one that told me what trisexuality was.ill

Im not sure that public education is to blame.

My daughter learned what a lesbian was when she watched "mean girls" a few years ago.





Note to self!

Dont raise children in Indiana!


You do live in NC, right Fanta? :wink:


No!

I live in WNC!
Want-a-fight about it?
LOL

You cant force your beliefs on other peoples children.
Whether it be religious or homosexual!


catwoman96's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:48 AM
informing is not forcing

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:53 AM

informing is not forcing


But you dont have the right to be the informer on certain topics when it pertains to another's children!

You can inform your own by your views all you want, but you dont hold a universal right to the values another parent wishes to instill in theirs!

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:55 AM

informing is not forcing


It is if its in a public school!

Have you ever heard of truancy laws?

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:55 AM


informing is not forcing


But you dont have the right to be the informer on certain topics when it pertains to another's children!

You can inform your own by your views all you want, but you dont hold a universal right to the values another parent wishes to instill in theirs!


I agree. it should be the parent's rightsto decide whether they want their child to be informed. most sex ed classes i know of, send out a notice to the parents in case the parents don't approve...then they can pull their child from the course if they wish to

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:01 PM



informing is not forcing


But you dont have the right to be the informer on certain topics when it pertains to another's children!

You can inform your own by your views all you want, but you dont hold a universal right to the values another parent wishes to instill in theirs!


I agree. it should be the parent's rightsto decide whether they want their child to be informed. most sex ed classes i know of, send out a notice to the parents in case the parents don't approve...then they can pull their child from the course if they wish to


And since its a publicly funded school they should give the parents who choose to keep their kids at home a pro-rated tax deduction.

Or better yet!

Keep the chit out of public schools altogether.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:03 PM
IMO...they need to offer an alternative choiceohwell

catwoman96's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:05 PM
ya i got a paper that I signed in order for my daughter to get sex education at school..


and yes i signed it ans she attended. and NO they didnt talk about homosexuality at all.

thats fine, your right its the parents choice.

but this is a very sex motivated society that we live in. clthes. tv. radio. friends. let alone natural hormones. I choose to have any informed child rather than a misinformed or uninformed child


catwoman96's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:06 PM


informing is not forcing


It is if its in a public school!

Have you ever heard of truancy laws?


yup. i would get in trouble if my child did not attend school regularly i believe. not sure i get the point

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:07 PM

IMO...they need to offer an alternative choiceohwell


That will work!

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:09 PM

ya i got a paper that I signed in order for my daughter to get sex education at school..


and yes i signed it ans she attended. and NO they didnt talk about homosexuality at all.

thats fine, your right its the parents choice.

but this is a very sex motivated society that we live in. clthes. tv. radio. friends. let alone natural hormones. I choose to have any informed child rather than a misinformed or uninformed child




I have already said I didn't personally have a problem with my son learning...whether it's sex, religion, whatever. but I know there are some parents that do.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:11 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 05/05/09 12:14 PM

ya i got a paper that I signed in order for my daughter to get sex education at school..


and yes i signed it ans she attended. and NO they didnt talk about homosexuality at all.

thats fine, your right its the parents choice.

but this is a very sex motivated society that we live in. clthes. tv. radio. friends. let alone natural hormones. I choose to have any informed child rather than a misinformed or uninformed child




That depends on the definition of what is informed, and what is disinformed, and what is uninformed.

Myself?
Id tell the truth!

Homosexuality is unnatural and its a personal choice!

Let's keep our personal opinions about values out of public schools.

Thoughtfulthug's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:11 PM
The problem with this situation is that I am tired of parents, politicians, teachers, School Boards, ( and other so called names that can all fall under the same category called guardians)-having to feel that they are best on what is the correct way of teaching young kids on sex, and courses in sex orientation. No matter what, the role of an educator is not to provide indoctrinaire methods of informing a child on how they ought to percieve the subject, but to do the opposite. Let the teens (supposing that age 12 ought to be the appropriate time) inquire on the subject with little or no interference by the guardian, and have the guardian guide them on exploring many pluralites of opinions of homosexuality and other sexual preferences for to let them come up with their own judgment.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:12 PM
:banana: me and the tarheel agree :banana:

catwoman96's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:16 PM


ya i got a paper that I signed in order for my daughter to get sex education at school..


and yes i signed it ans she attended. and NO they didnt talk about homosexuality at all.

thats fine, your right its the parents choice.

but this is a very sex motivated society that we live in. clthes. tv. radio. friends. let alone natural hormones. I choose to have any informed child rather than a misinformed or uninformed child




That depends on the definition of what is informed, and what is disinformed, and what is uninformed.

Myself?
Id tell the truth!

Homosexuality is unnatural and its a choice!

Let's keep our personal opinions about values out of public schools.


now i didnt say what I told her about homosexuality...jsut that she knows. :wink: although close to what you just said:wink:

and your right as a parent its OUR chocie what a kid learns. but im also saying a KID will learn many many things on their own. and many things from school. and from parents/family. and from friends. and from tv.

I know my daughter learns when we have educational night at home and watch the history channel or something, lol..even if she hates it. thanks for reminding me tonight is educational night. yayyyyyyy


Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:18 PM



ya i got a paper that I signed in order for my daughter to get sex education at school..


and yes i signed it ans she attended. and NO they didnt talk about homosexuality at all.

thats fine, your right its the parents choice.

but this is a very sex motivated society that we live in. clthes. tv. radio. friends. let alone natural hormones. I choose to have any informed child rather than a misinformed or uninformed child




That depends on the definition of what is informed, and what is disinformed, and what is uninformed.

Myself?
Id tell the truth!

Homosexuality is unnatural and its a choice!

Let's keep our personal opinions about values out of public schools.


now i didnt say what I told her about homosexuality...jsut that she knows. :wink: although close to what you just said:wink:

and your right as a parent its OUR chocie what a kid learns. but im also saying a KID will learn many many things on their own. and many things from school. and from parents/family. and from friends. and from tv.

I know my daughter learns when we have educational night at home and watch the history channel or something, lol..even if she hates it. thanks for reminding me tonight is educational night. yayyyyyyy




YAY!!!flowerforyou

no photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:19 PM




When I was a kid, I barely know what homosexuality or bisexuality was.

as an adult, I see it a whole lot.

and my daughter does to. She even has friends that are gay. A lil boy down the road who is 13 is gay. she was the one that told me what trisexuality was.ill

Im not sure that public education is to blame.

My daughter learned what a lesbian was when she watched "mean girls" a few years ago.





Note to self!

Dont raise children in Indiana!


You do live in NC, right Fanta? :wink:


No!

I live in WNC!
Want-a-fight about it?
LOL

You cant force your beliefs on other peoples children.
Whether it be religious or homosexual!




Nope, not in the mood for fighting today.. grin. WNC? I assume you mean Western NC? As if that changes anything.. LMAO

Anyway I agree that forcing one's beliefs on anyone's children is wrong, sexual or religious, and especially at that early age. Not sure where the force was here, but then I am not even clear on the whole issue and I suspect that if it's interpreted by a religous organization I won't get the whole story, nor might I if it came from the other side.

Thoughtfulthug's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:19 PM
Edited by Thoughtfulthug on Tue 05/05/09 12:20 PM



You cant force your beliefs on other peoples children.
Whether it be religious or homosexual!


So it your view that it is ok for you to force your beliefs onto your children? If so, then children is not something of a person who will later be an adult who had the education of coming up with their own set of beliefs, but someone who were force fed with set of beliefs because their were once a property of their parents.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 05/05/09 12:20 PM
Sad thing is that those parents who prevent children from learning that there are homosexuals in the world and they are normal too, just like heterosexuals run the chance of having a gay or lesbian child that does not feel really accepted at home.

I taught my kids about homosexuality early. I have gay friends and the kids wanted to know. So I told them that some people fall in love with the same sex, nothing wrong with it, it is perfectly normal.

Now if my children had been gay or lesbian, they would have known that I did not judge them for who they love. My relationship with my children would have been solid from the get on it.

My children have experimented but they are attracted to the opposite sex so they luckily will not have to deal with the prejudice on that level in this world. But I would have loved them the same regardless.

This is my view on it. But I have to reiterate the graphic explicit stuff is not necessary at any level and that should be pulled from the curriculum if they are teaching at that level.

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