It is not a humane thing to do to rob people, even if the money is spent on a humane cause.

Besides, where do you think employers get the money from and do you think they are doing it voluntarily?

The test should be paid by the recipients of welfare, and without any increase of their checks accordingly.

The humane thing to do when dealing with a living being is not always the best thing to do??? The HUMANE thing to do is not always the best thing to do with other humans???

Oh yea, the joy of the experience to be so down on your luck with no family to help you having to grovel at the welfare department for a dime, which is all they get, nothing, to live off of and feed their children and then have them get told they need to fork over half of their money for a drug test because the prejudice in this country think all poor people want to sit on their asses and collect the other people's money.

I hope you never have to be in this situation, I really do.

What happened to the empathy of the struggle people endure? What happened to the consideration of others lives being different from our own but understanding that the fight they go through is legitimate and worthy of tolerance?

Why hasn't this racist philosophy of the poor (being mostly minorities which is not always true) is the downfall of this country gone with the knowledge that hatefulness is not a productive way to live?

If you listen and understand the meaning behind these messages you will realize that the motive behind the taught message is that one of hatred and ignorance.

This thread is about to lose its reality in terms of a 360 degree view in terms of lives. Ahhh so much politics and so few people with time to understand

Some of the people have nothing to compare to, they are raised in a prejudice environment that teaches them that the "others" whoever they choose to hate are less than human and expendable. This applies to all kinds of people, poor, different religions, sexual orientation, body types, race, background, family composition, dress, locale, age, disabilities, etc... It gets ridiculous and I would laugh except it isn't funny how they discriminate and the end result of the discrimination.

Some of the people have nothing to compare to, they are raised in a prejudice environment that teaches them that the "others" whoever they choose to hate are less than human and expendable. This applies to all kinds of people, poor, different religions, sexual orientation, body types, race, background, family composition, dress, locale, age, disabilities, etc... It gets ridiculous and I would laugh except it isn't funny how they discriminate and the end result of the discrimination.

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I take it you don't think that a robbery is a bad thing if it is to help poor. You could just state this.



1. I do not care if it a joy or not. Just don't do it on my money. The rest is none of my business.

2. Should not make any children they don't respect enough to feed. Again, I did not make those children. I have my own to feed.

3. It doesn't have anything to do with prejudice. Since it is my money, I want to have a say as for the conditions these money are spent on. Simple preference. Don't like it? Don't take it!




Who said anything of minorities? I say they are stupid, lazy, dopes or all of the above. Did you see any mention of race?



The motive and meaning behind these messages is simple.

You feel compassionate? Go ahead and pay for the poor. I have no problem with this, and would think of you as of super goofy and stupid, but nevertheless, a good hearted person.

Why do you want to force me into doing it? Is that your understanding of love?

Apparently, you speak of yourself.

You do not care if you have to rob others to make your world they way you like it. You could just quietly do it yourself, but no, you defend the robbery.

I know why.

Because, you want it to be done by others. And if they don't want to, they be damned. Force them. Kill them if they resist.

How about this, humane one?

What do you mean done by others, it seems that is your philosophy, not mine. I want to be a part of this country and the fact that it provides for the underclass.

I would not recommend any others be killed for not agreeing with me. Again, don't pay the taxes if it bothers you so much. It is called protest and I understand it is an American right.

People that lose their jobs, become disabled, or lose a spouse have children BEFORE these events occur.

By "By others", I meant that you take a particular view (a need to help poor), and then want to force others to build the world that reflect your views.

Now, you have stated your view on taxation. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the taxation should be voluntary. If I don't want to pay, then I shouldn't, and I should not be persecuted.

If that is your view, then I can agree with it. With this condition, a taxation then becomes not a robbery, but only a collection mechanism, for those who wish to participate.

Currently, however, this is not the case with the taxation. If I refuse, I will be persecuted, my private property will be confiscated, I may be imprisoned, and even killed.


Technically, a socialism can exist within a capitalist society as a subset, on a voluntary basis. In practice, it doesn't. Majority pays only because they are forced to do it.

So do people who acquire significant debts BEFORE they go jobless.

So does a proverbial dragonfly which dances all year, BEFORE the winter comes and it has to ask an ant for an assistance.

Having kids is a responsibility. You want it? Take it. But please, please, don't take it expecting to put it on others.

So do people who acquire significant debts BEFORE they go jobless.

So does a proverbial dragonfly which dances all year, BEFORE the winter comes and it has to ask an ant for an assistance.

Having kids is a responsibility. You want it? Take it. But please, please, don't take it expecting to put it on others.

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"2. Should not make any children they don't respect enough to feed. Again, I did not make those children. I have my own to feed."

People that lose their jobs, become disabled, or lose a spouse have children BEFORE these events occur.

I pay taxes gladly knowing I am part of the greater good. If you don't pay taxes in protest, then you have to face the consequences in order to get the full protest in effect but death is not a part of that. Don't pay if they bother you so bad and go to battle with the government about it.

I know most of the people I know are glad to contribute to the furtherment of this great country.