Cynicism, not so good.

Skepticism, vital.

That is all.

That is hardly the same thing Keith....You live and learn and especially with relationships you put it in the past...that is where it belongs and every time you bring the past relationship into the new one...your doomed to fail.

And I am not talking just about love and relationships, I am talking about everything in life. When you have a problem do you deal with it?, and let it go or do you dwell on it.

Hey if you want to be alone that is totally your choice....

Yes I think they do. I am glad to see men finally waking up and using their heads to do their thinking instead of their sex drives.

Women have been ahead of you men for a very long time where playing games and getting what they want are concerned. Men need to learn to say "no." Women already know how to say "no" they have been doing it a lot longer because to say "yes" is a ticket to getting pregnant and having to raise a child on her own or having to raise a child why supporting an irresponsible out of work man at the same time.

Marriage and relationships should be fun, but use your head and stop dreaming of "happily ever after" it ain't that simple.

I think I have just become a born again cynic.

This WHOLE THREAD will amount to nothing.

I've worked side by side with my ex(before he was my ex) for the last 26 years-

supported him with my income,
took care of the kids,
house, etc.

and did what ever he wanted in the bedroom...

he repayed me with running off with a 23- year- old girl -and bankrupting me as an added bonus.



So let's talk about being beaten down,and twisted around more because I don't think I understand that concept...

One of the MANY things men have to be cynical towards women about, as this seems to generally be their most common argument to use.

Life is a gift..........accept it.
Life is an adventure..........dare it.
Life is a mystery..........unfold it.
LIfe is a game..........play it.
Life is a struggle..........face it.
Life is beauty..........praise it.
Life is a puzzle..........solve it.
Life is opportunity..........take it.
Life is sorrowful........experience it.
Life is a song..........sing it.
Life is a goal..........achieve it.
Life is a mission..........fulfill it.

Once upon a time in a land far away,a beautiful, independent, self-assured princess happened upon a frog as she sat contemplating ecological issues on the shores of an unpolluted pond in a verdant meadow near her castle. The
frog hopped into the princess' lap and said: " Elegant Lady, I was once a handsome prince, until an evil witch
cast a spell upon me. One kiss from you, however, and I will turn back into the dapper, young prince that I am and then, my sweet, we can marry and set up housekeeping in your castle with my mother, where you can prepare my
meals,clean my clothes, bear my children, and forever feel grateful and happy doing so. " That night, as the princess dined sumptuously on lightly sauteed frog legs, seasoned in a white wine and onion cream sauce, she chuckled and thought to herself:


I Don't Freakin Think So.

And so it is that both men and women have seen the worst of each other.

I ask you this, why can't we just be friends? Why can't marriage just be an agreement to procreate and get along? Why can't it be more of an equal business proposition?

Why do people have to get all starry eyed and expect someone else to make them happy or fulfill their lives?

Relationships should be approached in a more practical manner. Don't go in with your eyes blinded by infatuation and expectations of married bliss.

And when it does not work out, just end it, and pick yourself up and get back to living. Stop whining. Stop looking for that perfect mate expecting them to fill your life and make you whole. Just enjoy life and be a good person.

Its not all that complicated people. geeeeze. Get rid of your baggage and live in the moment. Live responsibly and live free.

Don't worry, be happy! Life is short.

In my experience, it has NEVER been about me not using my head to do the thinking -- it has always been about her wanting to do my thinking FOR me.

It gets tiresome, particularly when she didn't have the equipment to do the job in the first place.

OMG toooooooooooooo funny Deb....

Deb, are you listening to yourself? Yes, you live and learn from past relationships that wound up in the sh!tter for numerous reasons. WHY, in the name of Christ, would anyone deliberately WANT to keep repeating those same mistakes??

When someone is repeatedly shown certain traits and characteristics, you recognize the pattern!

Why is this such a concept to people?

thank you thank you....that is the fairy tale I read my girls......No cinderella syndrome for them.

Can you be more specific about the above statement, I am not sure I am understanding what you mean.

I have to laugh at that. It is the same problem I had with my last husband.

After I divorced him... I suddenly noticed I had to do my own thinking. I stumbled through and after I got used to it I kinda liked it. LOL

As a general rule (not ALWAYS, but MOST OF THE TIME), women have this idea that (ALL) men just think with their d!ck. How come this is the prevalent topic most women come onto the threads with? How refreshing would it be to see women create threads of, "God, I'm SO SICK of men constantly CARING! Why can't they treat us like sh!t for a change??" Nope, we'll never see any threads like that (at least, not any serious ones).

Using this as an example, is it really any wonder why so many men are jaded towards women, or dating in general? Why shouldn't they be, given what's constantly being thrown in their faces every day?

Now....to shift gears, it's because of the handful of jagbag's who DO treat women like sh!t, that gives the rest of us a bad name. Why bother putting our best foot forward when there's already so much of a preconceived notion? Where's the payoff?

EVERYBODY is cynical, whether they want to admit it or not!

I'm sure the women would pretty much say the same thing. But oh wait. They really don't say that do they??

I don't know. It would seem that women are better at coping with being treated like crap and then bouncing back and being positive about the next time around.

Different wiring, I guess.

hey i just want to know if anyone likes disturbed
?

"Disturbed" comes in a variety of flavors. Some aren't bad at all....

But I tend to figure everybody is "disturbed" a little bit, one way or another....