hello are you not listening.....learn from them.....then duf you won't repeat them...and not just in relationships but in every aspect of your life. Like you said touch the stove and get burned your not likely to do it again. But the biggest problem is people bringing baggage from one to the next to the next to the next...they don't learn and then they tend to go after the same kind of person and get the same results. And that can be with anything in life not just relationships.

I don't see you making the threads either....If you feel you or others are a certain way and women are putting you in a box...then hey step on out....and come to bat for all the great men out there...And yes I think there are some really great men on mingle.

Again I will say also in the defense of men...that women are to blame for 99% of why they get crappy men....They seek the bad boy and then they get pissed cuz he is a di*kwad...then they keep going after the same type of guy and want a different result...not going to happen.

Of COURSE I won't repeat them....because I won't repeat them!

Again, there is a misconception here.

I don't think Music Man is saying that the mistakes of others are carried on to the next person.

What I think he means is that the patterns of behavior, when actually observed, from previous relationships, are what drives most people.

Everyone is a cynic is some form or another.

If you had been in a physically abusive relationship, and the person you are interested showed signs that he had the potential to be physically abusive, would you not take those signs as a warning??

If so, then you would, indeed, be a cynic.

And I think -- after all these pages, after all these posts, after all of the people who were apparently oblivious to the humor in the original post, after all of the seemingly bound-and-determined efforts of some to cherry-pick the entire thread so they could find some little something to be offended by -- it all comes down to what Mr_Music said:

"I won't repeat them."

To what end? What would it prove? Do you actually think it's gonna change any opinions? A thread like that would go over like a fart in church.

The problem, as I see it, is -- there's really no advantage to being one of the "great men" here -- no one is actually looking for that -- sure, many will say they are, but -- let's face it, they're not being honest; otherwise they would be doing something about it.

Maybe my perception of what constitutes a "great man" differs significantly from everyone else's -- I don't know -- but I see a whole lot of guys here who I perceive as being "great men" -- in any number of ways -- and how many of them are actually getting anywhere with the women here?

Well that's a total cynic attitude...and yes I think change can happen with just one person.....but hey again live like a cynic if it's gets you through the day....I think living like this just sucks the life outta ya....thanks but no thanks....

What, did you think I was playin' this whole time?



Fair enough. You go ahead and live in your peaches-and-cream fantasy world. We'll see who gets disappointed more often.

they may be great..but if its not there its not there...

why settle or compromise?
some have made it quite clear..that there is no room for such things....
so its not there...


and i read the initial post......

i would vote for a day for which we celebrate cynicism
as long as hallmark gets involved...

I assure you I don't have to many disappointments in my life.....not that it's perfect because honestly who's is...but it's pretty darn close. So yea Keith I will take my peaches and cream life over negative nelly days anytime.

Again, you're mistaking skepticism with negativism. There is a difference!

Okay, I have stayed out of this thread, but I really have to reply to this.

I AM lookin for a great guy and I dare say many of us are and I have done something about it. I have written to guys here, through Mutual Match and otherwise......they DON'T respond, not a single one of them. I may be older than many members here, but I'm not ready to be put out to pasture either, and though I'm not as cute and perky as I was once, I cannot possibly be so respulsive to every 'great' guy I write to that I don't deserve at least a response. So what exactly would you have me and the other great gals here do? Can't exactly start a relationship if you cannot even start a conversation.

....amen!!!

I learned a lot in my life. And I learned from my mistakes in all aspects of life- not just relationships. I don't regret the experiences. And I don't wear my cynical behavior as a badge of courage. I use it as comedic shield against the barrage of dillusional sheep dip the koombya crowd chuck at me. There's a time and place for everything, and everything in its place. Some people have seen my kind helpful side. I'm not always an ass. Being a cynic doesn't mean I'm negative and pessimistic all the time. But if I let my feelings control my life I would never get anywhere. And I have places to go, people to see, and things to do. The bottom line- cynics are practical- not mean. Mean people suck.

All the same to me sorry...and life is just to darn short to have so much negative, or skepticism or being so cynical of the world.....so have fun with this I am out....never to darken the cynics lil world again.

All the same to me sorry...and life is just to darn short to have so much negative, or skepticism or being so cynical of the world.....so have fun with this I am out....never to darken the cynics lil world again.

Which is why I have no problem being a cynic. I can handle the truth of the world.

I don't think all men are obsessed with sex. (Granted, some of them are, and then there are some who just don't care about it.) But things are changing as women seem to be getting more aggressive and available. (Men are learning to be more choosy.)

That is the reason for my statement and that is why I made that statement. I am 59 years old and I grew up in a culture where YES most men did seem to be overly affected by their sex drive. (I still know men my age and older who are still obsessed with sex.)

I certainly did not mean to suggest that ALL MEN are that way. If you don't think there is a pay off by "putting your best foot forward" then don't bother. But I think you should be the best you can be if not for a woman, then at least for yourself.

A confident happy well adjusted, balanced, healthy man will attract women like bees to honey simply because they are rare.