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Topic: Why I believe In God.
Jill298's photo
Fri 01/23/09 08:41 AM

It was kind of funny though Jill. laugh
you know what I mean laugh

Krimsa's photo
Fri 01/23/09 08:43 AM
Jesus might have been gay or bi-sexual however I think he was in love with Mary Magdalene honestly. I also think she bore him children.

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 01/23/09 08:43 AM




It takes faith to be an atheist.


No it really doesn't. Because as an atheist, I can be wrong. As an atheist, I can accept scientific fact, and people who are different from me, because I don't have a book that tells me that science is wrong, or that those people are sinners.




As an atheist, you can't show proof that God doesn't exist. Therefore you are relying on faith.


Intellectually honest thinkers do not go for the negative proof thingy; it is shoddy, cheap and infantile.


My statement stands as true, inspite of your insulting opinion about it.

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Fri 01/23/09 08:44 AM



How weird is it really? I mean is not ual (or is it) it is someone hoping for your classic grandfatherly love (without the yelling screaming and hitting)


"TBrich" ...using the word weird was being nice ...Jesus is never depicted as being a grandfatherly figure ..Jesus is always depicted as being a young guy or this half-nude guy nailed to the cross...if Christianity preach against gays ...then guys confessing their love for a long dead guy dressed in a toga seems contradictory to that cause


noway Come on now Funches. Jesus on the cross, yes half naked, and people loving him have NOTHING to do with homosexuality.


right....just like drinking the blood of christ has nothing to do with vampirism

Inkracer's photo
Fri 01/23/09 08:45 AM



How weird is it really? I mean is not ual (or is it) it is someone hoping for your classic grandfatherly love (without the yelling screaming and hitting)


"TBrich" ...using the word weird was being nice ...Jesus is never depicted as being a grandfatherly figure ..Jesus is always depicted as being a young guy or this half-nude guy nailed to the cross...if Christianity preach against gays ...then guys confessing their love for a long dead guy dressed in a toga seems contradictory to that cause


noway Come on now Funches. Jesus on the cross, yes half naked, and people loving him have NOTHING to do with homosexuality.


Fine, take the whole cross thing out of the equation. . .
in this day and age, if you knew a guy who hung out with 12 other guys, ALL the time, you'd call him gay. . .


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Fri 01/23/09 08:49 AM




How weird is it really? I mean is not ual (or is it) it is someone hoping for your classic grandfatherly love (without the yelling screaming and hitting)


"TBrich" ...using the word weird was being nice ...Jesus is never depicted as being a grandfatherly figure ..Jesus is always depicted as being a young guy or this half-nude guy nailed to the cross...if Christianity preach against gays ...then guys confessing their love for a long dead guy dressed in a toga seems contradictory to that cause


noway Come on now Funches. Jesus on the cross, yes half naked, and people loving him have NOTHING to do with homosexuality.


Fine, take the whole cross thing out of the equation. . .
in this day and age, if you knew a guy who hung out with 12 other guys, ALL the time, you'd call him gay. . .


and believers will swear up and down that Jesus never had sex with Mary Madelene ....

TBRich's photo
Fri 01/23/09 08:50 AM
Actually if you read the famous logist Havelock Ellis, the amount of scatology in the Xian church is enough to keep the weirdos happy until, until, until...Christ's second coming!

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Fri 01/23/09 08:53 AM

Jesus might have been gay or bi-sexual however I think he was in love with Mary Magdalene honestly. I also think she bore him children.


these was just rumors to keep people from thinking he was gay ....isn't that probably why Tom Cruise got marry

they call it "being on the downlow"

TBRich's photo
Fri 01/23/09 08:53 AM



It takes faith to be an atheist.


No it really doesn't. Because as an atheist, I can be wrong. As an atheist, I can accept scientific fact, and people who are different from me, because I don't have a book that tells me that science is wrong, or that those people are sinners.




As an atheist, you can't show proof that God doesn't exist. Therefore you are relying on faith.


it is not insulting to give little value to the negative proof argument. You would be laughed out of any graduate philosophy program if you used it as a major point in your argument. That is why there is such a thing as circumstancial evidence in the American Judical system.

Krimsa's photo
Fri 01/23/09 08:54 AM
right....just like drinking the blood of christ has nothing to do with vampirism


But thats exactly what they want you to believe. huh

Krimsa's photo
Fri 01/23/09 09:01 AM




It takes faith to be an atheist.


No it really doesn't. Because as an atheist, I can be wrong. As an atheist, I can accept scientific fact, and people who are different from me, because I don't have a book that tells me that science is wrong, or that those people are sinners.




As an atheist, you can't show proof that God doesn't exist. Therefore you are relying on faith.


it is not insulting to give little value to the negative proof argument. You would be laughed out of any graduate philosophy program if you used it as a major point in your argument. That is why there is such a thing as circumstancial evidence in the American Judical system.


A great many people are tried and convicted on circumstantial evidence alone in this country. It’s just that jurors always assume that there MUST be physical evidence because of all of these crime shows and CSI stuff. Circumstantial evidence is very strong in many cases.

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Fri 01/23/09 09:03 AM

right....just like drinking the blood of christ has nothing to do with vampirism


But thats exactly what they want you to believe. huh


it is vampirism ...started when the roman guard St. Longinus speared jesus in his side and got a drop of Jesus's blood on his lip and his eyesight became better ..

the practice went from a drop of blood to Christians drinking blood ...which is clearly vampirism

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Fri 01/23/09 09:05 AM





It takes faith to be an atheist.


No it really doesn't. Because as an atheist, I can be wrong. As an atheist, I can accept scientific fact, and people who are different from me, because I don't have a book that tells me that science is wrong, or that those people are sinners.




As an atheist, you can't show proof that God doesn't exist. Therefore you are relying on faith.


it is not insulting to give little value to the negative proof argument. You would be laughed out of any graduate philosophy program if you used it as a major point in your argument. That is why there is such a thing as circumstancial evidence in the American Judical system.


A great many people are tried and convicted on circumstantial evidence alone in this country. It’s just that jurors always assume that there MUST be physical evidence because of all of these crime shows and CSI stuff. Circumstantial evidence is very strong in many cases.


But the whole "You can't prove god doesn't exist" argument is akin to convicting someone of murder, because "You can't prove he didn't murder the victim" while there is evidence to strongly suggest he did not commit the crime. . .

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Fri 01/23/09 09:11 AM

But the whole "You can't prove god doesn't exist" argument is akin to convicting someone of murder, because "You can't prove he didn't murder the victim" while there is evidence to strongly suggest he did not commit the crime. . .


to try and prove that God doesn't exist is to become part of the person's delusional that God does exist ...

which is why that it's not up to anyone to prove or dispprove a delusion...it's up to the claimer to prove that it's not a delusion


AllenAqua's photo
Fri 01/23/09 09:11 AM




It takes faith to be an atheist.


No it really doesn't. Because as an atheist, I can be wrong. As an atheist, I can accept scientific fact, and people who are different from me, because I don't have a book that tells me that science is wrong, or that those people are sinners.




As an atheist, you can't show proof that God doesn't exist. Therefore you are relying on faith.


it is not insulting to give little value to the negative proof argument. You would be laughed out of any graduate philosophy program if you used it as a major point in your argument. That is why there is such a thing as circumstancial evidence in the American Judical system.


Ok, what if I use the same twisted logic and challenged you to prove that the universe just occured on it's own, or to prove that Jesus was an adulterer, or that he was gay (preposterous),
or to prove anything else that you may believe concerning spiritual matters.

Spiritual arguements are NOT made in court. They are presented and dealt with in the heart.
For you to suggest that the same logic is applicable is absurd.

You may not like it, you may in fact belittle it, but the fact remains that it takes faith to believe God doesn't exist.

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Fri 01/23/09 09:21 AM

You may not like it, you may in fact belittle it, but the fact remains that it takes faith to believe God doesn't exist.


"allenaqua" ..to say that God exist in your heart is called fantasy

since God is unseen and incomprehensible to the human senses and you claim to feel God in your heart only proves you are imagining things ...

you don't need faith to imagine but you do need faith to claim as truth what you imagine

also that feeling in your heart might not be God ...it might be Gas

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 01/23/09 09:22 AM


But the whole "You can't prove god doesn't exist" argument is akin to convicting someone of murder, because "You can't prove he didn't murder the victim" while there is evidence to strongly suggest he did not commit the crime. . .


to try and prove that God doesn't exist is to become part of the person's delusional that God does exist ...

which is why that it's not up to anyone to prove or dispprove a delusion...it's up to the claimer to prove that it's not a delusion




Is it not then delusional to waste your time and energy in debate with whom you consider "delusional"?

Is it not delusional to assume that you know everything under the sun ?

"There are more things in heaven and earth Horatio, than are dreamt of in YOUR philosophy"

You seem to have no limits espousing your hateful, spiteful, negative convictions concerning the beliefs of others, but I assert sir that you are what you believe. You believe that God doesn't exist, I agree with you...For YOU, he doesn't.


AllenAqua's photo
Fri 01/23/09 09:26 AM


You may not like it, you may in fact belittle it, but the fact remains that it takes faith to believe God doesn't exist.


"allenaqua" ..to say that God exist in your heart is called fantasy

since God is unseen and incomprehensible to the human senses and you claim to feel God in your heart only proves you are imagining things ...

you don't need faith to imagine but you do need faith to claim as truth what you imagine

also that feeling in your heart might not be God ...it might be Gas

meh... so says you. Your opinion also wieghs less than a thought.

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Fri 01/23/09 09:27 AM

Is it not then delusional to waste your time and energy in debate with whom you consider "delusional"?


"AllenAqua" ...how you think books about delusion get written if no one study or debate those that are delusional


Inkracer's photo
Fri 01/23/09 09:28 AM
Is it not delusional to assume that you know everything under the sun ?


The only people I have met who would make such a claim(knowing everything) are the religious. Scientist, and other intelligent thinkers know that there is a long way to go before we can even start to get close to saying we know everything.

The only people who claim to know everything, are the people who use the truly ignorant answer that "god" is the answer. . .

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