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| Topic: What good has religion accomplished for the world? | |
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Religion is a man made profit machine! These douchebags raping ppl out of their money.
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"the world is an organism. an organism at war with itself is doomed."
look at the religious wars today and throughout history fuelled by religious self-righteousness and the promise of divine reward in the afterlife. add to that nuclear weapon capability. 'nuff said. |
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Religion has done nothing but make the world worse as a whole. Look at all these wars, most happen over some religious belief and reason. What of all the food programs in africa? Are they not doing good? Relegion itself was never the true reason for war... Wars are fought because someone wants something someone else has... Relegion is simply used to excite the population to support the theft. Without religion would some other tool be used? Would it be as effective? Could it? |
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Religion has done nothing but make the world worse as a whole. Look at all these wars, most happen over some religious belief and reason. What of all the food programs in africa? Are they not doing good? Relegion itself was never the true reason for war... Wars are fought because someone wants something someone else has... Relegion is simply used to excite the population to support the theft. Without religion would some other tool be used? Would it be as effective? Could it? Communism perhaps? |
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absolutely nothing. It is futile.
 Yamin |
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Edited by
Handsomedevil8P
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Mon 01/12/09 04:45 PM
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absolutely nothing. It is futile. Yamin Wait.... what?   Did you have an unexpected change of heart Yamin? |
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the point of religion isn't to make this world a better place. the point is to accept that this world is disposable and worthless. why care about this world when there is a ready made perfect world in the afterlife. You better hope so  other wise you may find out you completely wasted the beauty that was here and now. I don't know why people seek perfection where they are NOT and have no absolutely proof of, while avoiding perfecting where they are now... Can you explain why see no value in where you are... |
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How about the creation of most of the major Universities. You mean those created by design to teach students the art of indoctrination through law etc? indoctrination of other people with the intention of bringing about a new world oder and a government ruled by Gods' law? Are you now a student of such a university? What's it's name?.. I see no other purpose for major universities that are religious in nature. Will they do good, that is only if you assume religion has done anything other than to divide people between good and bad. I imagine they will do good to those that join them, and to those that don't, oh well there is time to convert them if nessessary and if you can.. |
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Some of the finest art and music the world has ever seen has been inspired by Christianity. Each relegion has its own inspirational and awe-inspiring art... so what? Not material good but true good... where is it... Where has relegion promoted the advancement of mankind?(without asking to rule it). "So what?" These works have the power to inspire and elevate the soul, to make one feel good - this is not "material" good at all. |
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Some of the finest art and music the world has ever seen has been inspired by Christianity. Each relegion has its own inspirational and awe-inspiring art... so what? Not material good but true good... where is it... Where has relegion promoted the advancement of mankind?(without asking to rule it). "So what?" These works have the power to inspire and elevate the soul, to make one feel good - this is not "material" good at all. So what... because not a single work of man can inspire the same awe as the simple art of god... It is everywhere you look... And in places we have not yet been just waiting for us to discover the next bit of awe... |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Tue 01/13/09 02:40 PM
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the point of religion isn't to make this world a better place. the point is to accept that this world is disposable and worthless. why care about this world when there is a ready made perfect world in the afterlife. But you do not live in the after life until (duh) AFTER your life is done here. Why wait? Why not make it a better place here so that the transition to the afterlife is but a comfortable step through the veil. From what I have seen the point of RELIGION is to control the masses for the benefit of the few... What does that have to do with the messages of the prophets which mankind has turned into religion? If every single human was viewed as a prophet, each contributing information/ideas/pictures of truth that were regarded as equally valuable to the whole picture of mankind, would we loose this desire to splinter into Religion? Would we bother with divisiveness to make our splinter seem more valid than someone with another variation? Fear propagates perceived "need" for Religion (and Religion propagates more fear)... Fear propagates a need to be "right"(and a need to be "right" propagates more fear).... Fear of feeling "less-than" propagates the mind's need to use all information it has gathered thus far in it's life and to apply it to all new situations in the attempt to control all outcomes. Self-serving (out of nothing more than fear) is at the heart of the mind's constant drive to prove it knows... The very thing that Religion tries to denounce (self-serving)... it promotes by insisting its particular doctrine is most correct. If Religion promotes fear... Does that mean its "bad"? Perhaps not... Perhaps one's fear (regardless of from where it comes) can finally bring the mind to a point of no longer relying on what it thinks it already knows and allowing the answers to spring from the heart. Why do we debate on this forum? Why do we bother? Could it be because we each seek to find what rings true to our hearts together? |
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I am curious... what has your religion done to make the world a better place? (not what its originator has done what the religion has done in the originators absense) I adhere to no dogmatic or organized thought process that utilizes guilt or intimidation to instill hate, intolerance or fear in its converts. I am a naturalist and provide therapeutic herbal remedies. |
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My point of view:
When Jesus was on earth, did he ever teach religion? Never, nada, zip. He didn't say you had to be a Jew, Gentile, Pharisee, Saduccee, etc...What Jesus did teach is PRINCIPLES. When he died, he left us 2 rules to live by, love your god, love your neighbor. Follow those rules, and maybe you get to the other side. Hell, sometimes you don't even have to follow the rules and still make it! Look at the murderer on the cross next to him. He had no chance to change his life around for the better, but Jesus read his heart condition and gave him the promise of "truly I tell you, you will be with me in the kingdom"... |
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My point of view: When Jesus was on earth, did he ever teach religion? Never, nada, zip. He didn't say you had to be a Jew, Gentile, Pharisee, Saduccee, etc...What Jesus did teach is PRINCIPLES. When he died, he left us 2 rules to live by, love your god, love your neighbor. Follow those rules, and maybe you get to the other side. Hell, sometimes you don't even have to follow the rules and still make it! Look at the murderer on the cross next to him. He had no chance to change his life around for the better, but Jesus read his heart condition and gave him the promise of "truly I tell you, you will be with me in the kingdom"... "If you love me Keep my Commandments" John14:15   Yamin shalom |
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Edited by
music_man_1957
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Wed 01/14/09 04:57 PM
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The answer to this question is to see the Topic ......> "I have a Supurb Catholic Idea"
 Posted above this one!  Ooops! I ment Below this one! 
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In most cases, War.
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"the world is an organism. an organism at war with itself is doomed." look at the religious wars today and throughout history fuelled by religious self-righteousness and the promise of divine reward in the afterlife. add to that nuclear weapon capability. 'nuff said. Carl Sagan... Nice. :) |
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I feel a little redundant here.... I don't have a religion....
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hmm. good point. why bother protecting something seen as a waiting room? check out desteni.com.za
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Religion has done nothing but make the world worse as a whole. Look at all these wars, most happen over some religious belief and reason. What of all the food programs in africa? Are they not doing good? Relegion itself was never the true reason for war... Wars are fought because someone wants something someone else has... Relegion is simply used to excite the population to support the theft. I disagree. Faith having been handed down from generation to generation with deep reverence can insight superiority complexes without the desire for land or possessions. Now power depending could fit but is not always necessary. |
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